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95se · 06-11-2013, 11:59 AM

Last night I noticed my tail lights wouldn't turn off after I turned the head lights off. I stepped on brake pedal, nothing happened as well. I am not even sure the brake lights are working. The head lights will turn off and on but the only way the tail lights will turn off is if I disconnect the battery. Is it a switch or relay?

robinsone · 06-11-2013, 12:03 PM

its the brake pedal stopper. The brake light switch is affixed next to the brake pedal. on the Pedal there is a rubber stopper or plug which hits the brake light switch. As time goes on the rubber wears out or down and the stopper will fall out, leaving the brake light switch in the on position despite the car being turned off. This is what you need.

Nissan OEM Rubber Stopper for Brake Light

racepar1 · 06-11-2013, 12:09 PM

^^^What he said^^^

95se · 06-11-2013, 12:12 PM

but i think its the tail lights not the brake lights. The light that is above the others in the middle is on as well.

AlexN · 06-11-2013, 12:14 PM

Try the above suggestions first... then troubleshoot the rest moving forward.

If you have nylon sticky tabs those are good for fixing the brake issue till you get OEM ones, cut them into small squares and its a easy application under the brake pedal I stuck it on a screw driver and pushed the pedal in then stuck it in, let the pedal back and it pressed itself, have not had to remove them for OEM ones (4 months later).

racepar1 · 06-11-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 95se

but i think its the tail lights not the brake lights. The light that is above the others in the middle is on as well.

The center stop lamp is a fucking brake light, NOT a "tail light"...

It's your brake switch bumper. Go look...

95se · 06-11-2013, 12:29 PM

yea, right.. I will go look.. does autozones carry these or have to get it online or dealership?

ShakotanGazelle · 06-11-2013, 12:38 PM

I just epoxy'd a couple pennies to my brake pedal.

racepar1 · 06-11-2013, 01:11 PM

Dealer ONLY. You can install a push clip for temporary...

Matej · 06-11-2013, 01:22 PM

Mine did that when my fender well wiring harness rubbed through. All kinds of weird things started happening, especially when I drove through puddles.

zeebrah · 06-11-2013, 01:56 PM

Glue a beer bottle cap on the pedal and be done. Then rejoice in fixing your car with beer

zerodameaon · 06-11-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ShakotanGazelle

I just epoxy'd a couple pennies to my brake pedal.

Best fix there is for this problem, if you track down the proper part to replace it it will just end up breaking again in a few months like mine did. It seems they are just new old stock and get brittle just sitting on the shelf.

DennisS · 06-11-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ShakotanGazelle

I just epoxy'd a couple pennies to my brake pedal.

Lmao I also did this. Super glued a penny to hit the switch.

dkim1985 · 06-11-2013, 02:34 PM

i managed to get a short bolt in that hole and tighten it with a nut on the other side. it was a tight fit but it works. now mines a metal stopper and i won't be having that problem~

yomisiu · 06-11-2013, 02:35 PM

same. pennies will do the trick

95se · 06-11-2013, 03:32 PM

Ok I got the bumper stop, $2.30, part from dealer. Problem fixed. Thanks!

ixfxi · 06-14-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ShakotanGazelle

I just epoxy'd a couple pennies to my brake pedal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeebrah

Glue a beer bottle cap on the pedal and be done. Then rejoice in fixing your car with beer

Quote:

Originally Posted by DennisS

Lmao I also did this. Super glued a penny to hit the switch.

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Originally Posted by zerodameaon

Best fix there is for this problem, if you track down the proper part to replace it it will just end up breaking again in a few months like mine did. It seems they are just new old stock and get brittle just sitting on the shelf.

you guys are some stupid fucking idiots. I have a surplus of these bumpers, not because they break often... but because I wanted spares. NOS parts are not old and brittle. If thats the case, why purchase new weather stripping?

I cant stand when people suggest doing stupid shit like super-glueing pennies. You guys are fucking ghetto.

racepar1 · 06-14-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

you guys are some stupid fucking idiots. I have a surplus of these bumpers, not because they break often... but because I wanted spares. NOS parts are not old and brittle. If thats the case, why purchase new weather stripping?

I cant stand when people suggest doing stupid shit like super-glueing pennies. You guys are fucking ghetto.

But, a $3 part that is in-stock at almost ANY Nissan dealer is way expensive and hard to get Mike...

95se · 06-16-2013, 05:17 PM

If a 2.50 dollar part is expensive then maybe you shouldn't be modding your car to begin with. It seems like no one that has 240's care about taking care of them. They just blow money on mods and stuff then wreck it or get rid of it before half their project is even done. Its embarrassing dealing with insurance and when I tell them I have a 240. Its like oh.. not a big deal to fix.. lets just try to get out of this as cheaply as possible. Hence, I'm dreading this week after getting rear ended this weekend for the 6th time whether or not the insurance is actually going to pay for a new bumper or they are going to try to say just get an aftermarket or remanufactured one. I'm sure if it was a 350z or bmw like the car that hit me was they wouldn't even attempt doing that.

ShakotanGazelle · 06-16-2013, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

you guys are some stupid fucking idiots. I have a surplus of these bumpers, not because they break often... but because I wanted spares. NOS parts are not old and brittle. If thats the case, why purchase new weather stripping?

I cant stand when people suggest doing stupid shit like super-glueing pennies. You guys are fucking ghetto.

Bro, let me tell you how cool you are because you can afford a surplus of a $3 OE part.

CleanAndLegit · 06-16-2013, 06:43 PM

bolt and nut works best, free most of the time.

KendallH · 06-16-2013, 06:52 PM

Be careful with using pennies/bolts etc. If the brake pedal switch is not adjusted properly it can apply pressure to your brake pedal and cause your brakes to lock up. I replaced mine with the factory nylon part because it has a little give to avoid this.

racepar1 · 06-16-2013, 07:45 PM

BTW, the bumpers are NOT new old stock. They are still currently being produced and are equipped on MUCH newer cars. Cheaping out with a penny or a bolt is just stupid, cheap, and lazy...

I had this EXACT issue on my car shortly after posting in here, ironically. I ordered the $3 part and fixed it properly.

Punished · 06-16-2013, 07:53 PM

When I bought my car someone had already done the bolt and nut mod. I found that out when randomly a bolt fell from under the dash and my brake lights wouldn't turn off.

I used one of the interior plastic plugs that fit perfectly in the hole and has been solid for over a year.

h2v7 · 06-16-2013, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeebrah

Glue a beer bottle cap on the pedal and be done. Then rejoice in fixing your car with beer

this i like indeed

06-11-2013, 11:59 AM	#1
95se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tail lights staying on after turning lights off Last night I noticed my tail lights wouldn't turn off after I turned the head lights off. I stepped on brake pedal, nothing happened as well. I am not even sure the brake lights are working. The head lights will turn off and on but the only way the tail lights will turn off is if I disconnect the battery. Is it a switch or relay? __________________ z32 front brakes, spl tc rods

06-11-2013, 12:12 PM	#4
95se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	but i think its the tail lights not the brake lights. The light that is above the others in the middle is on as well. __________________ z32 front brakes, spl tc rods

06-11-2013, 12:14 PM	#5
AlexN Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: FL Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Try the above suggestions first... then troubleshoot the rest moving forward. If you have nylon sticky tabs those are good for fixing the brake issue till you get OEM ones, cut them into small squares and its a easy application under the brake pedal I stuck it on a screw driver and pushed the pedal in then stuck it in, let the pedal back and it pressed itself, have not had to remove them for OEM ones (4 months later). __________________

06-11-2013, 12:29 PM	#7
95se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea, right.. I will go look.. does autozones carry these or have to get it online or dealership? __________________ z32 front brakes, spl tc rods

06-11-2013, 01:56 PM	#11
zeebrah Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yobro Linda Posts: 429 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Glue a beer bottle cap on the pedal and be done. Then rejoice in fixing your car with beer __________________ Braaap

06-11-2013, 12:03 PM	#2
robinsone Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 44 Posts: 129 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	its the brake pedal stopper. The brake light switch is affixed next to the brake pedal. on the Pedal there is a rubber stopper or plug which hits the brake light switch. As time goes on the rubber wears out or down and the stopper will fall out, leaving the brake light switch in the on position despite the car being turned off. This is what you need. Nissan OEM Rubber Stopper for Brake Light

06-11-2013, 12:09 PM	#3
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	^^^What he said^^^

06-11-2013, 12:38 PM	#8
ShakotanGazelle Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 514 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I just epoxy'd a couple pennies to my brake pedal.

06-11-2013, 01:11 PM	#9
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Dealer ONLY. You can install a push clip for temporary...

06-11-2013, 01:22 PM	#10
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Mine did that when my fender well wiring harness rubbed through. All kinds of weird things started happening, especially when I drove through puddles.

06-11-2013, 02:34 PM	#14
dkim1985 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Gardena, CA Posts: 771 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	i managed to get a short bolt in that hole and tighten it with a nut on the other side. it was a tight fit but it works. now mines a metal stopper and i won't be having that problem~

06-11-2013, 02:35 PM	#15
yomisiu Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 1,675 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	same. pennies will do the trick

06-11-2013, 03:32 PM	#16
95se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok I got the bumper stop, $2.30, part from dealer. Problem fixed. Thanks! __________________ z32 front brakes, spl tc rods Last edited by 95se; 06-11-2013 at 04:30 PM..

06-16-2013, 05:17 PM	#19
95se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If a 2.50 dollar part is expensive then maybe you shouldn't be modding your car to begin with. It seems like no one that has 240's care about taking care of them. They just blow money on mods and stuff then wreck it or get rid of it before half their project is even done. Its embarrassing dealing with insurance and when I tell them I have a 240. Its like oh.. not a big deal to fix.. lets just try to get out of this as cheaply as possible. Hence, I'm dreading this week after getting rear ended this weekend for the 6th time whether or not the insurance is actually going to pay for a new bumper or they are going to try to say just get an aftermarket or remanufactured one. I'm sure if it was a 350z or bmw like the car that hit me was they wouldn't even attempt doing that. __________________ z32 front brakes, spl tc rods

06-16-2013, 06:43 PM	#21
CleanAndLegit Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 3,693 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	bolt and nut works best, free most of the time. __________________

06-16-2013, 06:52 PM	#22
KendallH Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Clearwater, FL Level: Master Troll Age: 32 Posts: 871 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Be careful with using pennies/bolts etc. If the brake pedal switch is not adjusted properly it can apply pressure to your brake pedal and cause your brakes to lock up. I replaced mine with the factory nylon part because it has a little give to avoid this. __________________

06-16-2013, 07:45 PM	#23
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	BTW, the bumpers are NOT new old stock. They are still currently being produced and are equipped on MUCH newer cars. Cheaping out with a penny or a bolt is just stupid, cheap, and lazy... I had this EXACT issue on my car shortly after posting in here, ironically. I ordered the $3 part and fixed it properly.

06-16-2013, 07:53 PM	#24
Punished Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Washington Posts: 135 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	When I bought my car someone had already done the bolt and nut mod. I found that out when randomly a bolt fell from under the dash and my brake lights wouldn't turn off. I used one of the interior plastic plugs that fit perfectly in the hole and has been solid for over a year.