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SupaDoopa · 11-14-2016, 07:37 AM

We'll dispose of all the missiles we don't want/need by firing them at your house.

Erm, parents house. More specifically your room.

Corbic · 11-14-2016, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

We'll dispose of all the missiles we don't want/need by firing them at your house.

Erm, parents house. More specifically your room.

Need Basement Buster Missile for all the basement dwellers...

Corbic · 11-14-2016, 07:53 AM

So much money, to make such a retarded fanboy car....

I'm assuming the intakes run into the interior so you can Vape directly into the engine for extra scene points?

Corbic · 11-14-2016, 08:03 AM

The more I look at the car, the more it makes my head hurts.

It's literally fucking backwards.

He put a Ferrari Mid-engine, engine in the front of his car.

Ran the intake into the interior going backwards...

Then ran the exhaust going forward and dumping out the front bumper.

Then to ensure the reverse build was complete... he has the front staggered wider then the rear.

Da Faq.

Something much cooler, more practical and actually fitting would have been to use a GT350 5.2 engine.

Flat Plane, 526hp 429 ft/tq and 8,250 RPM.

Ferrari 458 by comparison is 570hp 398ft/tq and 9,000rpm

OBEEWON · 11-14-2016, 08:48 AM

But then it wouldn't have a Ferrari engine and would still be smugly.

driftsucky · 11-14-2016, 09:38 AM

Yeah...and none of the other options you listed were LS, so what's the point really? The motor you posted looks like a 5.0L Coyote motor. Is the 5.2 the same?

AKsamuraiS14 · 11-14-2016, 10:14 AM

I have mixed feelings about the FRS with the Ferrari engine in it as well. I think they did it to be unique which it definitely is a unique build, I mean don't get me wrong, im sure its a blast to drive and hear the engine at high rpm. Id rather hear the Ferrari engine at high rpm than the gt350 but I do agree with corbic that the more you think about the engine lay out the more it gets you confused and with the money spent, there could of been more efficient options, but that's what you get when you have no care money to throw around.

derass · 11-14-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by driftsucky

The motor you posted looks like a 5.0L Coyote motor. Is the 5.2 the same?

The 5.2 has a flat-plane crank, the 5.0 does not. Same foot print though. Corbic probably posted that FRS just to show the Ford V8 fits. Pretty cool might I add!

Corbic · 11-14-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by driftsucky

Yeah...and none of the other options you listed were LS, so what's the point really? The motor you posted looks like a 5.0L Coyote motor. Is the 5.2 the same?

Everyone does LS1s.

My point is that car is a stupid piece of shit.

Yes those photos are standard 430hp Coyote swaps. There are several companies doing swaps since you can get a complete CARB certified power pack with transmission, clutch, cats, harness, ecu and accessories for $12,000.

You'd easily spend over half that trying to boost the FA20 to 430hp and emissions compliance would be iffy.

The 5.2 Vodoo is dimensionally and visually similarity to the 5.0 Coyote. Ford does not sell the Vodoo, however they do sell the forged flat plane crank.

$1,125 for the crank.

With a pile of head, rods and other parts on the market you can build your own 9rpm whirling monster of death.

***FaLKoN240*** · 11-14-2016, 10:55 AM

Thought that swap was cool until I realized it was Corbic justifying more of his love for Fords.

hanzbrady · 11-14-2016, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Thought that swap was cool until I realized it was Corbic justifying more of his love for Fords.

But in all seriousness the new Moostangs are pretty nice. I just wish they'd stop naming things after completely unrelated species.

SupaDoopa · 11-14-2016, 11:45 AM

Woah, woah, woah. The car isn't 'a stupid piece of shit' just because you don't agree with it's direction. Let's take a step back and really understand what's going on here:

Yes, your observation isn't an oasis of brain activity. You're absolutely right. It was mounted in the front because of the overall weight distribution of the car. Putting a mid-engine in the car the way it's designed leads to a completely different plan of attack on an engineering standpoint. At that point, he may as well just build a Ferrari. Plus, no scene points.

Intake manifold could have probably been flipped or something made to accommodate front-mounted intakes or something like Forsberg uses but he's already limited on windshield real estate.

Exhaust on the front end leads me to believe it's a dump pipe but that could be debatable. This is only one image of the car after all and I'm too lazy to google.

The front reverse stagger isn't bigger wheels in the front - it's spaced wheels in the front to improve steering response and angle.

Can someone pour me a chilled glass of bleach?

SupaDoopa · 11-14-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hanzbrady

But in all seriousness the new Moostangs are pretty nice. I just wish they'd stop naming things after completely unrelated species.

Mustang. Stallion. Horse. Horsepower. You know, that thing that generally causes them to fail unless the number is 200.

TheRealSy90 · 11-14-2016, 12:04 PM

I remember when they first posted what engine they were using on Facebook and showed that it would interfere with the firewall etc. Someone showed them a different intake manifold that bolts onto this engine that would clear everything and they just stayed with the Ferrari manifold anyways. There was definitely another option but they neglected it.

Corbic · 11-14-2016, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

I remember when they first posted what engine they were using on Facebook and showed that it would interfere with the firewall etc. Someone showed them a different intake manifold that bolts onto this engine that would clear everything and they just stayed with the Ferrari manifold anyways. There was definitely another option but they neglected it.

It prolly didn't say "Ferrari" on it...

RB25GUY · 11-14-2016, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Thought that swap was cool until I realized it was Corbic justifying more of his love for Fords.

Bushido · 11-14-2016, 03:26 PM

458 powered FRS makes you realize that Ferrari exhaust engineers don't put 1000's of hours into tuning the exhaust note to perfection for no reason.

The only real reason to have a Ferrari engine is for the sound, and they lost that iconic high pitched shriek with that wack exhaust.

SupaDoopa · 11-14-2016, 03:31 PM

I can see why shooting fire at the person tandeming next to you is a cool idea.

***FaLKoN240*** · 11-14-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushido

458 powered FRS makes you realize that Ferrari exhaust engineers don't put 1000's of hours into tuning the exhaust note to perfection for no reason.

The only real reason to have a Ferrari engine is for the sound, and they lost that iconic high pitched shriek with that wack exhaust.

Yeah it kinda just sounds like an f1 car or something.

silviaks2nr · 11-14-2016, 04:12 PM

458 motors aren't the best sounding ferrari v8 to begin with because of the larger displacement. 308/328, 348, and 355 are what you want for sound. BTW you can improve on stock... case in point

driftsucky · 11-14-2016, 04:25 PM

Yo dawg. We heard you liked Ferraris...so we put a ferrari drifting around a ferrari so you could ferrari while you ferrari.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-enPjs8IiXY

Bushido · 11-14-2016, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silviaks2nr

458 motors aren't the best sounding ferrari v8 to begin with because of the larger displacement. 308/328, 348, and 355

True

I agree, but then you hear this countash and are speechless...

Doin it wrong content, Ferrari Dreamzzz:

Gat dat wine bottle holder in my 'rarri

mooor than you can afford, PAL

Corbic · 11-14-2016, 06:59 PM

Zilvia kids would be like "odd ball JDM Drift Sedan. JZ turbo and RHD $10k"

[URL]https://instagram.com/p/BMspuefgSJh/

TheRealSy90 · 11-14-2016, 09:07 PM

Ima let you finish but the Ferrari F40 is the best V8 of all time.

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RB25GUY · 11-15-2016, 06:32 AM

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Ima let you finish but the Ferrari F40 is the best V8 of all time.

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i want to agree with you 100 percent best V8 chassis of all time .. but the best sounding V8 Italian king will always be the 33 stradale

driftsucky · 11-15-2016, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bushido

Doin it wrong content, Ferrari Dreamzzz:

Gat dat wine bottle holder in my 'rarri

mooor than you can afford, PAL

While building a fake Ferrari may not be the best idea of things to do, somebody definitely put in the wrench time. Body work is spot on and sans the wheel gap, it's a well built show car. It's just stupid is all.

OBEEWON · 11-15-2016, 07:54 AM

Best sounding Italian car ever. Koenigg Special TT F50.

RB25GUY · 11-15-2016, 08:36 AM

^ not even close at least IMO heres a few more to add to the list

abarth tc1000 group 5

lancia beta montecarlo turbo

512bb LM

288 GTO EVO

back to the topic of DIW:

SupaDoopa · 11-15-2016, 08:47 AM

Maybe it's the wheels but I've always hated this 326Power S14. I can't put my finger on it but I feel like it's the wheels. Hopefully the wheels.

silviaks2nr · 11-15-2016, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RB25GUY

^ not even close at least IMO heres a few more to add to the list

start around 1 minute

11-14-2016, 07:53 AM	#13473
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 40 Posts: 8,226 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	"You're doing it wrong" Pt. 2 - Because turrible ideas never die So much money, to make such a retarded fanboy car.... I'm assuming the intakes run into the interior so you can Vape directly into the engine for extra scene points?

11-14-2016, 08:48 AM	#13475
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	But then it wouldn't have a Ferrari engine and would still be smugly. __________________

11-14-2016, 09:38 AM	#13476
driftsucky Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rochester NY Age: 44 Posts: 1,345 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah...and none of the other options you listed were LS, so what's the point really? The motor you posted looks like a 5.0L Coyote motor. Is the 5.2 the same? __________________ @be_henney kranstogram is full of nonsense and foolishness.

11-14-2016, 10:14 AM	#13477
AKsamuraiS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: The mists of Avalon Posts: 910 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I have mixed feelings about the FRS with the Ferrari engine in it as well. I think they did it to be unique which it definitely is a unique build, I mean don't get me wrong, im sure its a blast to drive and hear the engine at high rpm. Id rather hear the Ferrari engine at high rpm than the gt350 but I do agree with corbic that the more you think about the engine lay out the more it gets you confused and with the money spent, there could of been more efficient options, but that's what you get when you have no care money to throw around. __________________ Aero-K Garage * Night Monkeys IG - Shant_a_ganoosh

11-14-2016, 10:55 AM	#13480
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,885 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Thought that swap was cool until I realized it was Corbic justifying more of his love for Fords. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

11-14-2016, 07:37 AM	#13471
SupaDoopa Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 隠された意図 Age: 36 Posts: 3,689 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	We'll dispose of all the missiles we don't want/need by firing them at your house. Erm, parents house. More specifically your room.

11-14-2016, 08:03 AM	#13474
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 40 Posts: 8,226 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	The more I look at the car, the more it makes my head hurts. It's literally fucking backwards. He put a Ferrari Mid-engine, engine in the front of his car. Ran the intake into the interior going backwards... Then ran the exhaust going forward and dumping out the front bumper. Then to ensure the reverse build was complete... he has the front staggered wider then the rear. Da Faq. Something much cooler, more practical and actually fitting would have been to use a GT350 5.2 engine. Flat Plane, 526hp 429 ft/tq and 8,250 RPM. Ferrari 458 by comparison is 570hp 398ft/tq and 9,000rpm

11-14-2016, 11:45 AM	#13482
SupaDoopa Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 隠された意図 Age: 36 Posts: 3,689 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	Woah, woah, woah. The car isn't 'a stupid piece of shit' just because you don't agree with it's direction. Let's take a step back and really understand what's going on here: Yes, your observation isn't an oasis of brain activity. You're absolutely right. It was mounted in the front because of the overall weight distribution of the car. Putting a mid-engine in the car the way it's designed leads to a completely different plan of attack on an engineering standpoint. At that point, he may as well just build a Ferrari. Plus, no scene points. Intake manifold could have probably been flipped or something made to accommodate front-mounted intakes or something like Forsberg uses but he's already limited on windshield real estate. Exhaust on the front end leads me to believe it's a dump pipe but that could be debatable. This is only one image of the car after all and I'm too lazy to google. The front reverse stagger isn't bigger wheels in the front - it's spaced wheels in the front to improve steering response and angle. Can someone pour me a chilled glass of bleach?

11-14-2016, 03:26 PM	#13487
Bushido Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: SFL Posts: 3,563 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	458 powered FRS makes you realize that Ferrari exhaust engineers don't put 1000's of hours into tuning the exhaust note to perfection for no reason. The only real reason to have a Ferrari engine is for the sound, and they lost that iconic high pitched shriek with that wack exhaust. __________________

11-14-2016, 03:31 PM	#13488
SupaDoopa Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 隠された意図 Age: 36 Posts: 3,689 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	I can see why shooting fire at the person tandeming next to you is a cool idea.

11-14-2016, 04:12 PM	#13490
silviaks2nr Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,192 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	458 motors aren't the best sounding ferrari v8 to begin with because of the larger displacement. 308/328, 348, and 355 are what you want for sound. BTW you can improve on stock... case in point __________________ '98 240sx 5spd kouki 2jz t56 swap build

11-14-2016, 04:25 PM	#13491
driftsucky Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rochester NY Age: 44 Posts: 1,345 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yo dawg. We heard you liked Ferraris...so we put a ferrari drifting around a ferrari so you could ferrari while you ferrari. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-enPjs8IiXY __________________ @be_henney kranstogram is full of nonsense and foolishness.

11-14-2016, 06:59 PM	#13493
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 40 Posts: 8,226 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	"You're doing it wrong" Pt. 2 - Because turrible ideas never die Zilvia kids would be like "odd ball JDM Drift Sedan. JZ turbo and RHD $10k" [URL]https://instagram.com/p/BMspuefgSJh/ Last edited by Corbic; 11-14-2016 at 09:29 PM..

11-15-2016, 07:54 AM	#13497
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Best sounding Italian car ever. Koenigg Special TT F50. __________________

11-15-2016, 08:47 AM	#13499
SupaDoopa Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 隠された意図 Age: 36 Posts: 3,689 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	Maybe it's the wheels but I've always hated this 326Power S14. I can't put my finger on it but I feel like it's the wheels. Hopefully the wheels.