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XXX4life · 08-31-2004, 09:54 AM

ok so currently i have a 90 240 hatch, the body is flawless the only thing bad about the car is the motor and tranny are about dead

i've decided to build the car, i'm getting a full cage in it in the next month or so and i'm bulding the car for the mountain roads and the track and for occasional drifting i figure like 250hp will be good for what i want, so i want an sr20 but a ka24de would be cheaper and since i don't want much power would that be a better choice? i have lots of turbo parts to use from my jetta that i'm 'm sellingg, so what motor would you choose and why?
thanks

97DubTruck · 08-31-2004, 10:22 AM

if the motor and tranny are almost dead then why go ka-t? you dont want to do all that work then blow up the damn thing. limited slip, suspension, sr swap.

XXX4life · 08-31-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 97DubTruck

if the motor and tranny are almost dead then why go ka-t? you dont want to do all that work then blow up the damn thing. limited slip, suspension, sr swap.

no i'm talking abotu putting a new motor in, cureently i have a ka24e and i would put in a ka24de

kaje36 · 08-31-2004, 10:38 AM

both motors have alot of potential, I beleave no one else can realy tell you what to buy. you have to look at how the engine reacts, were it makes its power, and everything about the charicteristics of the engine in question. only way you can realy be happy with the engine.

orion::S14 · 08-31-2004, 10:41 AM

If you're looking only at cost...

For less than 250rwhp..the KA24DE-T is the way to go.

250-350rwhp...it's a toss up...cost is similar. Here you're upgrading injectors on the SR, bigger turbo, etc...similar stuff to a KA-T buildup.

350-450rwhp...built KA vs stock block SR...cost wise, SR has the edge by a small margin.

Anything over 450rwhp...again, a toss up...it's preference. You have to replace SO much to get there, that it really doesn't matter which motor you start with...not much is left of the original setup, other than block/head.

- Brian

wootwoot · 08-31-2004, 11:17 AM

i say ka-t. you'll have your 250hp but with an assload of torque and a fatpower band. it'll cost just as much as an sr20 with everything needed to be done to it but way more fun. ka-t all the way

mjjstang · 08-31-2004, 11:47 AM

deffinitely get an sr20det it has a stock turbo, and Is a simple swap, light weight very easy to install and after market is plentiful. my vote for the sr.

mjjstang · 08-31-2004, 11:49 AM

If I were goin to do a swap I would surely do a kat because it is cheaper and for most parts you dont have to rely on someone in japan trying to get them for you, My vote for the kat.

*HaLo* · 08-31-2004, 12:06 PM

Neither... both engine blows

Salty_X · 08-31-2004, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mjjstang

deffinitely get an sr20det it has a stock turbo, and Is a simple swap, light weight very easy to install and after market is plentiful. my vote for the sr.

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Originally Posted by mjjstang

If I were goin to do a swap I would surely do a kat because it is cheaper and for most parts you dont have to rely on someone in japan trying to get them for you, My vote for the kat.

WTF.

aznpoopy · 08-31-2004, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty_X

WTF.

i'm crazy. and so am i.

Var · 08-31-2004, 02:08 PM

i'd go with whichiever engine you can afford to freshly rebuild with high quality bottom end components.

mjjstang · 08-31-2004, 02:34 PM

but if all he wants is 250 there is no need to rebuild sr.

BSeay · 08-31-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty_X

WTF.

Love the pic! lol... but it's your choice if you're gonna ask which is better search because it's been discussed 12158481684189119818194198148.316 times...

Bbandit · 08-31-2004, 04:51 PM

250rwhp? definetaly ka-t.

RedSuns · 08-31-2004, 10:20 PM

SR all the way....

the KA-T is a fat pig that wallows in it's own feces...

IBTL

and i like tacos

96twofourty · 09-02-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RedSuns

SR all the way....

the KA-T is a fat pig that wallows in it's own feces...

IBTL

and i like tacos

you're such a tool that knows nothing about cars. "base timing is base timing"

ps ka>sr

Id- · 09-02-2004, 06:25 PM

250whp is doable on the stock turbod SR... motor weighs less, is much more reliable in the power department, etc... all in all they prolly cost about the same to do... most of the cheap setups for KAs are exactly that... cheap and ghetto...

i know all about piecing together a kit and how expensive it is... been there done that

*Jeff240sx* · 09-02-2004, 06:26 PM

Search noob! This is the eleventybillionth time this thread has appeared.
-Jeff

08-31-2004, 09:54 AM	#1
XXX4life Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: portland, OR Age: 42 Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sr20 or ka-t? ok so currently i have a 90 240 hatch, the body is flawless the only thing bad about the car is the motor and tranny are about dead i've decided to build the car, i'm getting a full cage in it in the next month or so and i'm bulding the car for the mountain roads and the track and for occasional drifting i figure like 250hp will be good for what i want, so i want an sr20 but a ka24de would be cheaper and since i don't want much power would that be a better choice? i have lots of turbo parts to use from my jetta that i'm 'm sellingg, so what motor would you choose and why? thanks __________________ 04 Scion xb 90 240sx (ka24de) www.entrustclothing.com

08-31-2004, 11:47 AM	#7
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	deffinitely get an sr20det it has a stock turbo, and Is a simple swap, light weight very easy to install and after market is plentiful. my vote for the sr. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

08-31-2004, 11:49 AM	#8
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	If I were goin to do a swap I would surely do a kat because it is cheaper and for most parts you dont have to rely on someone in japan trying to get them for you, My vote for the kat. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

08-31-2004, 12:06 PM	#9
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 45 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Neither... both engine blows __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

08-31-2004, 02:08 PM	#12
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 42 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'd go with whichiever engine you can afford to freshly rebuild with high quality bottom end components. __________________ Hi

08-31-2004, 10:22 AM	#2
97DubTruck Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: location, location Posts: 532 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if the motor and tranny are almost dead then why go ka-t? you dont want to do all that work then blow up the damn thing. limited slip, suspension, sr swap.

08-31-2004, 10:38 AM	#4
kaje36 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: new hampshire Age: 42 Posts: 149 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	both motors have alot of potential, I beleave no one else can realy tell you what to buy. you have to look at how the engine reacts, were it makes its power, and everything about the charicteristics of the engine in question. only way you can realy be happy with the engine.

08-31-2004, 10:41 AM	#5
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you're looking only at cost... For less than 250rwhp..the KA24DE-T is the way to go. 250-350rwhp...it's a toss up...cost is similar. Here you're upgrading injectors on the SR, bigger turbo, etc...similar stuff to a KA-T buildup. 350-450rwhp...built KA vs stock block SR...cost wise, SR has the edge by a small margin. Anything over 450rwhp...again, a toss up...it's preference. You have to replace SO much to get there, that it really doesn't matter which motor you start with...not much is left of the original setup, other than block/head. - Brian

08-31-2004, 11:17 AM	#6
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 38 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i say ka-t. you'll have your 250hp but with an assload of torque and a fatpower band. it'll cost just as much as an sr20 with everything needed to be done to it but way more fun. ka-t all the way

08-31-2004, 02:34 PM	#13
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	but if all he wants is 250 there is no need to rebuild sr. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

08-31-2004, 04:51 PM	#15
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 42 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	250rwhp? definetaly ka-t. __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

08-31-2004, 10:20 PM	#16
RedSuns Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 42 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	SR all the way.... the KA-T is a fat pig that wallows in it's own feces... IBTL and i like tacos __________________ Johnathan 2005 Titan 1996 240SX 1991 240SX 1974 260Z 1996 Honda CBR 600 F3

09-02-2004, 06:25 PM	#18
Id- Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hell on Earth Age: 43 Posts: 220 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	250whp is doable on the stock turbod SR... motor weighs less, is much more reliable in the power department, etc... all in all they prolly cost about the same to do... most of the cheap setups for KAs are exactly that... cheap and ghetto... i know all about piecing together a kit and how expensive it is... been there done that __________________ 95 Lexus SC300 5-speed -DD pimp car 92 Nissan 240sx base coupe -clean KA24DE swapped in -GTIR T28 -Big FMIC -565cc STi Injectors w/ Z32 MAF -J30 VLSD w/ subframe spacers -RPS Max clutch -3" turboback -PLMS Daughterboard on modded ECU

09-02-2004, 06:26 PM	#19
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 41 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Search noob! This is the eleventybillionth time this thread has appeared. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?