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240sxconversion · 02-23-2004, 02:38 PM

Ok, i wana by this 91 240sx, problem is it has a broken camshaft right after the cam gear. How much would a used,or new one for the camshaft, and would anything else be wrong with the engine. The car is only 400 dollars and is in perfect shape, only 17k on it, i know thats low, but it was a old granny car. So hit me up with some ideas. and let me know how hard this is gona be to retime the car

skatanic28 · 02-23-2004, 04:35 PM

people are lettin go of entire engines for <500 bucks, so check f/s forums and see what ya can find. either way an s13 with 17k is insane
i dont think the valves and pistons would be too happy though if the cam failed?

BSeay · 02-23-2004, 06:35 PM

be the man and dont waste the time on the cam...SR SWAP! thats what u would do...damn where is this i might wanna buy it!

*AceInHole* · 02-23-2004, 10:12 PM

broken camshaft = most likely broken valves = most likely needs a new head.

otherwise you can get cams cheap from a junkyard, or maybe even me (got a couple extra cams... stock S14 232 degree, but it would hurt your performance more).

Uniac · 02-23-2004, 10:32 PM

you too? mine died and it turned to be broken cams, i swapped it, broke it again, so i pulled the head, swapped in a new one and it runs great

mjjstang · 02-24-2004, 04:00 AM

Well I sold my s13 cams a few months ago on ebay for 100 bucks. and thats the most ive ever seen them go for. sold another set for 40, some say that all s13 are the same others say that the 91s are better, or at least thats what the guy that bought mine for 100 bucks said. cause the 40 dollar ones were off a 92. but yah might as well get a head, although if nothin else is bad, (valves and such,) a 17K head is something to hold on to, not many out there. The point of my story is, 100 dollars is the most u should have to spend, but im sure you can find em cheaper. Oh about retiming, I think after you take the bolt off of the cam, you can slide the sprocket off, just dont let the chain come off the sprocket and I think you should be fine. Dont know how much you know, because post count doesnt necessarily tell how new you are, but there is an order on how to take off the towers and put them on, dont remember how, but if you have an fsm or chiltons, Im sure it will say. One last thing, I bought A beautiful (on the inside and out) 240 from NY, BE SURE TO LOOK FOR RUST ON THE FRAME, from the outside you cant tell that my control arms can be bent by a two year old child, but they can. the underside of the car is a rust pit, just make sure you check.

240sxconversion · 02-24-2004, 04:52 AM

Well, i dont have the money for the SR swap right now, THe underside of the car looks great, it was kept in a barn (God I love old People) anyway, i called the one junk yard, and they dont have any used heads from a 240sx, i can also get them of a DOHC 2.4 stanza, and altima right?? Thanks for your help guys. Hopefully this wont fall threw. Oh By the way i am located in PA, and i already got a down payment, so dont even think about it.

nightwalker · 02-24-2004, 05:04 AM

buy it KAs are cheap and easy to swap

240sxconversion · 02-24-2004, 06:52 AM

well i dont see the point in buying a older engine that has like 100k on it when the engine in the car has only 17k on it. So should i get a new head or just the dam cam, its the exhaust cam, and can i get it outa a stanza or the pickup or altima.

brokenben · 02-24-2004, 07:12 AM

well.. if theres only 17k on it. and theres a broken cam.. it makes me think that it wasnt well taken care of.. (complete guess)... so you wud be just as well off swapping in an older engine.. nonetheless... 17k on the chassis is an excellent project car and definitely worth the 400.

240sxconversion · 02-24-2004, 10:06 AM

Well accually the cam was broken becasue someone was messing with the timing and some how broke it.

element240 · 02-24-2004, 10:37 AM

find a used cam, if the valves/springs/retainers are all good.
sounds like they're still ok since the people only screwed up on the cam from trying to do timing on it.

nightwalker · 02-24-2004, 01:40 PM

so did you buy the car yet?

240sxconversion · 02-25-2004, 10:04 AM

Didnt buy it yet, got the downpayment, am still looking for a used cam, every junkyard i called, they dont have any used ka24de heads. And Harry's you pull it doesnt offer any info, so i have to go and walk through the hole import section to look for it. Which isnt good since there is snow all over the cars.

240sxconversion · 02-26-2004, 01:04 PM

can anyone tell me what other cars i can get the DOHC cylinder head from other then another 91+ 240sx, does the DOHC form the pickups,stanzas, and altimas work?? need quick help, plz let me know

Uniac · 02-26-2004, 01:21 PM

i just recently came into the possesion of a 92 coupe that was broadsided(yesterday) I will talk it over with the "owner" and see if he wants to part with the cam's or just sell it as a whole. I will let you know in the next day or 2

cheers

240sxconversion · 02-27-2004, 07:16 AM

thanks man, i am looking forward to getting the 240 running. But i sorta wana know if i can get cams outa stanza or not, or the pickup truck. any help would be appreciated.

brokenben · 02-27-2004, 08:31 AM

91+ cams shudnt be too hard to find.. i see them in the for sale forum quite often

VitaminT · 02-27-2004, 08:36 AM

Yeah I just sold a set for like $50shipped.

Uniac · 02-27-2004, 10:32 AM

As far as i know the pickups were SOHC's until 97, after that i don't know, and i think the stanza's were sohc's too.

02-23-2004, 02:38 PM	#1
240sxconversion Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 38 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Broken CamShaft Ok, i wana by this 91 240sx, problem is it has a broken camshaft right after the cam gear. How much would a used,or new one for the camshaft, and would anything else be wrong with the engine. The car is only 400 dollars and is in perfect shape, only 17k on it, i know thats low, but it was a old granny car. So hit me up with some ideas. and let me know how hard this is gona be to retime the car

02-23-2004, 06:35 PM	#3
BSeay Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 634 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	be the man and dont waste the time on the cam...SR SWAP! thats what u would do...damn where is this i might wanna buy it! __________________ 1995 240SX SE - Sold

02-23-2004, 10:12 PM	#4
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 43 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	broken camshaft = most likely broken valves = most likely needs a new head. otherwise you can get cams cheap from a junkyard, or maybe even me (got a couple extra cams... stock S14 232 degree, but it would hurt your performance more). __________________

02-24-2004, 04:00 AM	#6
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Well I sold my s13 cams a few months ago on ebay for 100 bucks. and thats the most ive ever seen them go for. sold another set for 40, some say that all s13 are the same others say that the 91s are better, or at least thats what the guy that bought mine for 100 bucks said. cause the 40 dollar ones were off a 92. but yah might as well get a head, although if nothin else is bad, (valves and such,) a 17K head is something to hold on to, not many out there. The point of my story is, 100 dollars is the most u should have to spend, but im sure you can find em cheaper. Oh about retiming, I think after you take the bolt off of the cam, you can slide the sprocket off, just dont let the chain come off the sprocket and I think you should be fine. Dont know how much you know, because post count doesnt necessarily tell how new you are, but there is an order on how to take off the towers and put them on, dont remember how, but if you have an fsm or chiltons, Im sure it will say. One last thing, I bought A beautiful (on the inside and out) 240 from NY, BE SURE TO LOOK FOR RUST ON THE FRAME, from the outside you cant tell that my control arms can be bent by a two year old child, but they can. the underside of the car is a rust pit, just make sure you check. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

02-24-2004, 05:04 AM	#8
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 45 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	buy it KAs are cheap and easy to swap __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

02-23-2004, 04:35 PM	#2
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 40 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	people are lettin go of entire engines for <500 bucks, so check f/s forums and see what ya can find. either way an s13 with 17k is insane i dont think the valves and pistons would be too happy though if the cam failed?

02-23-2004, 10:32 PM	#5
Uniac Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: toronto Age: 40 Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you too? mine died and it turned to be broken cams, i swapped it, broke it again, so i pulled the head, swapped in a new one and it runs great

02-24-2004, 04:52 AM	#7
240sxconversion Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 38 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, i dont have the money for the SR swap right now, THe underside of the car looks great, it was kept in a barn (God I love old People) anyway, i called the one junk yard, and they dont have any used heads from a 240sx, i can also get them of a DOHC 2.4 stanza, and altima right?? Thanks for your help guys. Hopefully this wont fall threw. Oh By the way i am located in PA, and i already got a down payment, so dont even think about it.

02-24-2004, 06:52 AM	#9
240sxconversion Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 38 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i dont see the point in buying a older engine that has like 100k on it when the engine in the car has only 17k on it. So should i get a new head or just the dam cam, its the exhaust cam, and can i get it outa a stanza or the pickup or altima.

02-24-2004, 07:12 AM	#10
brokenben Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco Age: 39 Posts: 718 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well.. if theres only 17k on it. and theres a broken cam.. it makes me think that it wasnt well taken care of.. (complete guess)... so you wud be just as well off swapping in an older engine.. nonetheless... 17k on the chassis is an excellent project car and definitely worth the 400.

02-24-2004, 10:06 AM	#11
240sxconversion Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 38 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well accually the cam was broken becasue someone was messing with the timing and some how broke it.

02-24-2004, 10:37 AM	#12
element240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MI Age: 38 Posts: 735 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	find a used cam, if the valves/springs/retainers are all good. sounds like they're still ok since the people only screwed up on the cam from trying to do timing on it.

02-24-2004, 01:40 PM	#13
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 45 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so did you buy the car yet? __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

02-25-2004, 10:04 AM	#14
240sxconversion Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 38 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Didnt buy it yet, got the downpayment, am still looking for a used cam, every junkyard i called, they dont have any used ka24de heads. And Harry's you pull it doesnt offer any info, so i have to go and walk through the hole import section to look for it. Which isnt good since there is snow all over the cars.

02-26-2004, 01:04 PM	#15
240sxconversion Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 38 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	can anyone tell me what other cars i can get the DOHC cylinder head from other then another 91+ 240sx, does the DOHC form the pickups,stanzas, and altimas work?? need quick help, plz let me know

02-26-2004, 01:21 PM	#16
Uniac Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: toronto Age: 40 Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i just recently came into the possesion of a 92 coupe that was broadsided(yesterday) I will talk it over with the "owner" and see if he wants to part with the cam's or just sell it as a whole. I will let you know in the next day or 2 cheers

02-27-2004, 07:16 AM	#17
240sxconversion Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 38 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks man, i am looking forward to getting the 240 running. But i sorta wana know if i can get cams outa stanza or not, or the pickup truck. any help would be appreciated.

02-27-2004, 08:31 AM	#18
brokenben Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco Age: 39 Posts: 718 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	91+ cams shudnt be too hard to find.. i see them in the for sale forum quite often

02-27-2004, 08:36 AM	#19
VitaminT GhettoBoost Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: AL Posts: 248 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah I just sold a set for like $50shipped.

02-27-2004, 10:32 AM	#20
Uniac Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: toronto Age: 40 Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As far as i know the pickups were SOHC's until 97, after that i don't know, and i think the stanza's were sohc's too.