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frizzle · 12-02-2011, 06:14 PM

Pretty sure its been answered before, but I cant find it. Im wondering what you guys are using to get that crazy camber in front? Im at -3* right now with PBM first gen coils and camber plates maxxed out, and im trying to get to about -5* to -6*. I do not want to run a smaller bolt as a fear of it backing out some how. I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me. Is my only option to notch the camber plates?

ILoveMyRHS13 · 12-02-2011, 06:17 PM

You could notch the top hole in the bottom mount of the coilovers.

drifter808 · 12-02-2011, 06:21 PM

Just drill a new top hole in the coilover mount. Did mine and now with camber plate all the way positive it's around -7.

Lukasss · 12-02-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

You could notch the top hole in the bottom mount of the coilovers.

Thats what I did, Im at about -5* right now, but i could easily go to about -7*

Basically made it look like this

frizzle · 12-02-2011, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukasss

Thats what I did, Im at about -5* right now, but i could easily go to about -7*

What did you use to slot the hole?

Lukasss · 12-02-2011, 06:36 PM

Thats not the picture of my coilover or anything lol, but it essentially looks like that.

I used a Dremel.
Ive seen people use a drill press and it came out nice, but the Dremel was much easier.

Matej · 12-02-2011, 06:45 PM

After slotting my mounts, I used these tab washers that normally come with those silly camber kits. They work great for keeping the bolts in place in the widened holes.

Lukasss · 12-02-2011, 07:16 PM

Shit. I like that idea^

Gonna pick some up tomorrow lol

Tempo · 12-02-2011, 07:57 PM

noob question but, Drilling the bottom hole on the front coils is the only way to get -5 camber up front? There isn't a kit out there i can buy?

Enna · 12-02-2011, 08:24 PM

You drill the top hole in the lower mount, not the bottom hole. Easier and cheaper than trying to get custom adjustable LCA's for camber.

Pandapants · 12-02-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frizzle

I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me.

Since you have them, why don't you play with the lengths and see if they give you the results youre looking for before you go hacking up your coilovers.

pinkarrowsnow · 12-02-2011, 09:21 PM

the longer the LCA the more camber gets added. Thats how all the pro drift cars get crazy camber up front lots of LCA adjustment.

MeanS14 · 12-02-2011, 09:55 PM

Someone correct me if im wrong but wont extending the flca's just move the bottom of the wheel out and do nothing for his fender clearance issue? I guess extending them essentially does increase the camber but I dont think it will help him at all

fatduece · 12-02-2011, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frizzle

Pretty sure its been answered before, but I cant find it. Im wondering what you guys are using to get that crazy camber in front? Im at -3* right now with PBM first gen coils and camber plates maxxed out, and im trying to get to about -5* to -6*. I do not want to run a smaller bolt as a fear of it backing out some how. I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me. Is my only option to notch the camber plates?

Weird...I can get -5.5 with my buddyclub coils without notching. I also don't have camber plates, but yea I guess you have to do some notching.

ILoveMyRHS13 · 12-02-2011, 11:18 PM

At least you don't own an S13. I have my PBM's maxed out at 2.2*. Luckily I have S14 LCAs to put on. Shooting for 5-6* haha.

Lukasss · 12-03-2011, 12:20 AM

When you extend the FLCA, it pushes the entire wheel out further too.

Correct me if I'm wrong ?

Matej · 12-03-2011, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukasss

Shit. I like that idea^

Gonna pick some up tomorrow lol

This place sells just the washers in pairs:
3541-5 - Replacement 12mm Fastcam Washers - Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc.

Lukasss · 12-03-2011, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

These place sells just the washers in pairs:
3541-5 - Replacement 12mm Fastcam Washers - Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc.

Ah glorious.
Thank you sir.

Om1kron · 12-03-2011, 12:59 AM

your camber plates look like this already right?

Brian04 · 12-03-2011, 01:38 AM

Weird, i keep hearing people talk about drilling a slot in the top hole of the bracket of their front coils, but both my Silkroad RM/A8 sets come with the slot already there.... guess it just depends on which model coil you have

lflkajfj12123 · 12-03-2011, 01:45 AM

request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

Dominic Axelson · 12-03-2011, 01:45 AM

^ word. My fortune auto coils have it...

Om1kron · 12-03-2011, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by s0apgun

request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

lol

XFuzionX · 12-03-2011, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

This^

When I was running crazy camber I just slotted the coil mount like everyone said

90240sx07 · 12-03-2011, 04:00 AM

so if you slot it is it possible to run lets say -2 for daily and like -5 for a drift day?

az_240 · 12-03-2011, 04:21 AM

I'm no expert but doesnt slotting the coils top hole for more camber mess with (lowers it?) kingpin inclination angle?

Assuming he is running near stock caster wouldn't it be better to extend the FLCAs for a wider track/more neg camber while maintaining the stock knuckle to coil mount configuration?

I'm just going off what I see here
The Ultimate Handling Guide Part 8: Understanding Your Caster, King Pin Inclination and Scrub

I guess if all you guys want is more neg camber for the look it works

Teh Luckinator · 12-03-2011, 04:23 AM

does anyone have a picture of their slotted holes? at first i was gonna slot it like... 2 holes big, but then i started looking at 326power coilovers, and that shit is nuts. was gonna do this, and then run like a 25mm spacer or something to clear the coilover. thoughts?

and here are 326power ones, they're already offset:

how much camber are you dudes running after slotting it?

maybe i'll just drill another hole instead of slotting.

nathanong87 · 12-03-2011, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by s0apgun

request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

Crank dat camber soulja boy

When my coils looked like omnikrons pic my stance gr+ were at -5.5 before alignment

Om1kron · 12-03-2011, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanong87

Crank dat camber soulja boy

When my coils looked like omnikrons pic my stance gr+ were at -5.5 before alignment

that's actually soaps pic.

lflkajfj12123 · 12-03-2011, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

I'm no expert but doesnt slotting the coils top hole for more camber mess with (lowers it?) kingpin inclination angle?

Assuming he is running near stock caster wouldn't it be better to extend the FLCAs for a wider track/more neg camber while maintaining the stock knuckle to coil mount configuration?

I'm just going off what I see here
The Ultimate Handling Guide Part 8: Understanding Your Caster, King Pin Inclination and Scrub

I guess if all you guys want is more neg camber for the look it works

ugh god

12-02-2011, 06:14 PM	#1
frizzle In time-out for misbehaving. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,071 Trader Rating: (45) Feedback Score: 45 reviews	Max Camber Pretty sure its been answered before, but I cant find it. Im wondering what you guys are using to get that crazy camber in front? Im at -3* right now with PBM first gen coils and camber plates maxxed out, and im trying to get to about -5* to -6*. I do not want to run a smaller bolt as a fear of it backing out some how. I do have adjustable FLCA's now, but was told that would do shit for me. Is my only option to notch the camber plates?

12-02-2011, 06:21 PM	#3
drifter808 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Big Island Age: 35 Posts: 829 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: drifter808 Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Just drill a new top hole in the coilover mount. Did mine and now with camber plate all the way positive it's around -7. __________________

12-02-2011, 07:57 PM	#9
Tempo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 957 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	noob question but, Drilling the bottom hole on the front coils is the only way to get -5 camber up front? There isn't a kit out there i can buy? __________________ IG - allen.kerose

12-02-2011, 09:21 PM	#12
pinkarrowsnow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 639 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	the longer the LCA the more camber gets added. Thats how all the pro drift cars get crazy camber up front lots of LCA adjustment. __________________ http://allies-drift.blogspot.com/

12-03-2011, 12:20 AM	#16
Lukasss Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,892 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	When you extend the FLCA, it pushes the entire wheel out further too. Correct me if I'm wrong ? Last edited by Lukasss; 12-03-2011 at 12:52 AM..

12-02-2011, 06:36 PM	#6
Lukasss Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,892 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Thats not the picture of my coilover or anything lol, but it essentially looks like that. I used a Dremel. Ive seen people use a drill press and it came out nice, but the Dremel was much easier.

12-02-2011, 06:45 PM	#7
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	After slotting my mounts, I used these tab washers that normally come with those silly camber kits. They work great for keeping the bolts in place in the widened holes.

12-02-2011, 07:16 PM	#8
Lukasss Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,892 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Shit. I like that idea^ Gonna pick some up tomorrow lol

12-02-2011, 09:55 PM	#13
MeanS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Glendale, AZ Age: 35 Posts: 478 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Someone correct me if im wrong but wont extending the flca's just move the bottom of the wheel out and do nothing for his fender clearance issue? I guess extending them essentially does increase the camber but I dont think it will help him at all

12-03-2011, 12:59 AM	#19
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Granada Hills, CA Age: 43 Posts: 6,990 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	your camber plates look like this already right? __________________ Wayne Edwards https://om1kron.blogspot.com

12-03-2011, 01:38 AM	#20
Brian04 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 721 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	Weird, i keep hearing people talk about drilling a slot in the top hole of the bracket of their front coils, but both my Silkroad RM/A8 sets come with the slot already there.... guess it just depends on which model coil you have

12-03-2011, 01:45 AM	#21
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,483 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	request for thread title to be changed to crank dat

12-03-2011, 01:45 AM	#22
Dominic Axelson Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Metamora IL Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^ word. My fortune auto coils have it...

12-03-2011, 04:00 AM	#25
90240sx07 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Missoula Mt Age: 32 Posts: 523 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	so if you slot it is it possible to run lets say -2 for daily and like -5 for a drift day?

12-03-2011, 04:21 AM	#26
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	I'm no expert but doesnt slotting the coils top hole for more camber mess with (lowers it?) kingpin inclination angle? Assuming he is running near stock caster wouldn't it be better to extend the FLCAs for a wider track/more neg camber while maintaining the stock knuckle to coil mount configuration? I'm just going off what I see here The Ultimate Handling Guide Part 8: Understanding Your Caster, King Pin Inclination and Scrub I guess if all you guys want is more neg camber for the look it works