California Smog for S-chassis related

[MrMigs]

Geez guys, not saying to go from KA-T to KA every time you have to smog. Auto-pass is just a couple hundred bucks.

Just saying in the unfortunate event that you DO get reffed, at least it's an option. And once you have the ref-pass paperwork, keep it handy, it'll help keep you out of trouble, at least from my experience.

I've had SR for the last 5 or so years, drive in SoCal every day, and no problems really... I dunno maybe I just get lucky *shrug* Good luck guys. LoL

[zerodameaon]

Originally Posted by Corbic

$1500 on a $5000 bike is a lot v that's like saying the "new cats" will only add $7k to the price of a car.

FI systems also don't mean they will pass smog, just ask the sr.

Also the bike industry is all ready crashing and go read that article I posted.

Never did I say it would pass smog did I? Just said as a result they are getting cleaner, not the main intention of FI but a side effect. $1500 is a lot but when you are talking about something under $10k a lot of guys will spring for the added features of FI on a bike.

And yeah sad truth of shipping, bunker oil is nasty stuff. What is stupid is we let these things dock here in california yet for years we banned Navy mine hunters from coming here because of how much they polluted. Guess the Navy was not greasing palms quite enough.

[ryandriftingfat]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Ok, then what about the real polluters of the world?

How 16 ships create as much pollution as all the cars in the world | Mail Online

This can't be understated.



Extraordinarily simplified: We have restrictions so the rest of the world can spit whatever they want into the air.

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by Corbic

er... no

For Crapafornia you need an engine from a newer model engine with all it's OEM federal emissions equipment.

So for the VQ, you'd need that cats, egr crap and return-less fuel system or whatever. No different then a LS motor.

The E-rod makes life easy as it comes with everything you need and is only a few bucks more then most pull outs.

er...no shit.

Since you quoted my post, read where it says that all parts you mentioned could be omitted and neglected in order for it to pass/get the A-OK from a ref.

...exactly.

I'll never understand how people outside of California talk the most crap about California--solely on smog laws. How difficult is it to own two cars? One for the track and the other for daily driving. If you really want to drive around in a car with an illegal engine, you'll find a way or deal with the consequences. Or how about actually purchasing a car that's job is to go fast to deliver pizzas? Seems like most people that complain are too lazy or too simple to think of a way to do it right the first time.

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by Corbic

The E-rod makes life easy as it comes with everything you need and is only a few bucks more then most pull outs.

Project V8 RX-7: Part 13 - Goin' Legit



quoted from the article

“Why are you even here? You got an EO sticker, just take it to any smog shop. They’ll sure as hell be easier on the inspection than I’m going to be—I have to go through every system with a fine tooth comb—and I’m tough!”

That little sticker, that get-out-of-jail-free card is all that matters, NOT the swap. fuck you morons who are taking motors from this, motors from that, then going to the ref to have the car inspected - thats all a colossal waste of time. whats not a waste of time? spending the extra bucks for that bullshit sticker.

so you buy the crate setup, you stick the sticker on your car, and you tell each and every person who pulls you over to go fuck themselves. and when you need a smog, you go to a average, run of the mill smog shop and pay for smog -- the end.

no junkyard motors. no turbo removal / back to stock / stock removal / turbo install nonsense

the sticker. thats all that matters. everything else is bullshit kid

[SpecialT]

Eh California is not as bad as everyone puts it out to be. Just pass smog NA and swap in the SR or KA-det. As long as you don't drive like a dumbass or have a "fan boy" looking car, no cops will hassle you. Been SR'd/Turbo for 5+ years as my daily. If your shit is mismatched, super slammed, obnoxiously loud... Cops will fuck with you.

[MrMigs]

Originally Posted by SpecialT

Eh California is not as bad as everyone puts it out to be. Just pass smog NA and swap in the SR or KA-det. As long as you don't drive like a dumbass or have a "fan boy" looking car, no cops will hassle you. Been SR'd/Turbo for 5+ years as my daily. If your shit is mismatched, super slammed, obnoxiously loud... Cops will fuck with you.

I can confirm, I share the same experiences here in Los Angeles. Good luck everybody.

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Project V8 RX-7: Part 13 - Goin' Legit



quoted from the article

“Why are you even here? You got an EO sticker, just take it to any smog shop. They’ll sure as hell be easier on the inspection than I’m going to be—I have to go through every system with a fine tooth comb—and I’m tough!”

That little sticker, that get-out-of-jail-free card is all that matters, NOT the swap. fuck you morons who are taking motors from this, motors from that, then going to the ref to have the car inspected - thats all a colossal waste of time. whats not a waste of time? spending the extra bucks for that bullshit sticker.

so you buy the crate setup, you stick the sticker on your car, and you tell each and every person who pulls you over to go fuck themselves. and when you need a smog, you go to a average, run of the mill smog shop and pay for smog -- the end.

no junkyard motors. no turbo removal / back to stock / stock removal / turbo install nonsense

the sticker. thats all that matters. everything else is bullshit kid

I want to do this so bad now. LOL

[waxball88]

What's smog? What's ref?

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by waxball88

What's smog? What's ref?

whats a sister in gainesville?

a wife


"honey, iiii looove yoooo"

[darksurfer81]

So what if you are bringing a car into the state from one without emissions? From the look of it you can't register it here in which case I guess it just sits in the garage.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by zooopreme

How impractical does that sound though?

That's four jobs at the very least. 1 to remove N/A stuff, 1 to put in T-stuff. Every two years, 1 to remove for smog, 1 to put in for smog, 1 to remove N/A components and another to put in. Depending on the exterior for the car, you may have to do another remove and put in, then after you get written off, remove N/A stuff to put in turbo stuff in again. All in all, that sounds a bit ridiculous, don't you think?

I mean honestly, why not just be a smart person and not daily a "drift ready" car. Other than getting compliments from other men and teenagers from the mall, you'll have nothing going for you.

I didn't say it's not a lot of work, but you can do some things to make the job a lot easier. For example, my mafs wiring has a weather pack so i literally unplug the z32 mafs and plug in my stock mafs. I then swap injectors and ecus and the car is back on the stock map. Everything else is just bolt on stuff. I've had my car smogged with oil feed/drain lines plugged, intercooler pipes bagged, and a boost gauge going to 0 lol.

..with that being said, I have preferred to just pay a reasonable price to have it passed

Originally Posted by MrMigs

Geez guys, not saying to go from KA-T to KA every time you have to smog. Auto-pass is just a couple hundred bucks.

Just saying in the unfortunate event that you DO get reffed, at least it's an option. And once you have the ref-pass paperwork, keep it handy, it'll help keep you out of trouble, at least from my experience.

I've had SR for the last 5 or so years, drive in SoCal every day, and no problems really... I dunno maybe I just get lucky *shrug* Good luck guys. LoL

Not everyone has that luxury of a cheap hookup though. I've never had any issues until I went to shady spots like huge car meets and such where the cops are looking for people like us.

[Scope240sx]

smog isnt that bad in cali.. also DD an N/A Ka that burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrly passes smog.
bastards.
like the man said pick your poison, why go back and forth?

turbo it dont drive like a jack.. or keep it N/A and still dont drive like a jack..


either way you wont get pulled over if you follow the aforementioned NOT super slammed, jdm DAD DUUDE yellow fog light, coffee can exhaust with your drift life hella flush front & rear air diffuser with bucket seat set up and takata harnesses.

am i right or am i right?

Shooter McGavin out.

[Corbic]

Or if you really love cars..... move.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Or if you really love cars..... move.

Yeah, pick-up and move your entire life so that you can have easier smog laws.

That makes fucking sense...

Are you even a real person or just a car troll bot?

Besides, smog laws all over the country are going to get tougher over time. At some point everyone is going to have to deal with similar shit.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by racepar1

Yeah, pick-up and move your entire life so that you can have easier smog laws.

That makes fucking sense...

Are you even a real person or just a car troll bot?

How does it not make sense?

Google "moving out of California".

List of reasons why is nearly endless. The only reason to move there in the past was the weather and porn. Luckily we have Florida these days for both.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Corbic

How does it not make sense?

Google "moving out of California".

List of reasons why is nearly endless. The only reason to move there in the past was the weather and porn. Luckily we have Florida these days for both.

I'm a HUGE Cali fan, let's not start this discussion.

The rest of the US can suck it, inferior states get no love...

[zerodameaon]

Originally Posted by darksurfer81

So what if you are bringing a car into the state from one without emissions? From the look of it you can't register it here in which case I guess it just sits in the garage.

You can put all the cali equipment on the car to have it smogged. Most newer cars these days tend to be the same so its mainly only an issue on older cars. Someone correct me if I am wrong but the biggest difference on the 240 side of things is the ECU in the S13. Comparing my Cali vert to my friends Fed Hatch that was really the only difference unless someone did everything but forgot to switch ECUs.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by zerodameaon

You can put all the cali equipment on the car to have it smogged. Most newer cars these days tend to be the same so its mainly only an issue on older cars. Someone correct me if I am wrong but the biggest difference on the 240 side of things is the ECU in the S13. Comparing my Cali vert to my friends Fed Hatch that was really the only difference unless someone did everything but forgot to switch ECUs.

THE ONLY difference between the emissions systems on cali and non-cali 240sx's is the EGR temp sensor. Federal 240's will NEVER throw a code 32 because they do not have the sensor to monitor the EGR operation. Non-cali cars should pass cali smog almost always, it would be a rare occasion that you need to swap ANYTHING. I've smogged plenty of federal 240's here in cali, NO ISSUES...

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Luckily we have Florida these days for both.

WOW, I missed that before.

REALLY???

FLORIDA???

SERIOUSLY???

No thanks, old people, humidity, and an abundance of retards are just not my thing...

[zerodameaon]

Yeah I knew it was something small like that for a 240.

As for the comment about swapping smog equipment it was for older cars. My step brother had to swap a bunch of crap before the smog shops would look at his 80s chevy. Then again that could have just been a dick of a smog tech.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by zerodameaon

Yeah I knew it was something small like that for a 240.

As for the comment about swapping smog equipment it was for older cars. My step brother had to swap a bunch of crap before the smog shops would look at his 80s chevy. Then again that could have just been a dick of a smog tech.

Well, there's one mistake your brother made...


...that's the 80's chevy part!

Yeah, maybe a dickwad tech. On older cars like that though things MIGHT actually NEED to be swapped to pass.

There IS NO LAW that says that Federal emissions vehicles cannot be smogged in cali. That simply is not true in any way. There is also NO LAW that requires you to swap any smog equipment. Federal vehicles are smogged in cali as federal vehicles...

[calidrifter]

Originally Posted by darksurfer81

So what if you are bringing a car into the state from one without emissions? From the look of it you can't register it here in which case I guess it just sits in the garage.

As racepar1 said it will be tested as a federal emissions vehicle. Even if you bought a new car in Georgia you would still need to Smog it to operate in California.

As for emissions getting tougher in other states. This is completely true so while you may not need to smog your 240sx currently you may need to on your next one. Oh and guess who's laws you will be using. Yup Califormia's.

[that_one_coupe]

I'm actually slowly going to KA-T w/the ka/Sr hybrid manifold.I got the stock air box and other components. I guess I'll have to figure out how to make it efficient enough to pass smog.

[zerodameaon]

My car keeps getting worse the more I fix it, my car needs a kick in the teeth. Even adding a gallon of special gas only made it worse.

[lude4life13]

Originally Posted by Corbic

How does it not make sense?

Google "moving out of California".

List of reasons why is nearly endless. The only reason to move there in the past was the weather and porn. Luckily we have Florida these days for both.

Two reasons: Job and family. But then again most people here probably have shitty jobs and must not care much about family since they would rather move out of state to make a smog test easier. Zilvians are hilarious. I have to go to Florida once a year for job training and I will tell you I absolutely CANNOT stand it there after living in Cali my whole life! I'd never go back if I didn't have to.