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Old 11-30-2009, 03:40 PM   #61
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rip, my condolences to the families.
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R.I.P. To Alex and Ej and the Young girl. Its terrible to hear and None of them deserved to die. But the man in the middle of this photo gets to live for the rest of his life with the guilt
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Two teens in a district right next to mine were killed last night in a car accident. It's just absolutely shocking, tragic.

I can't even imagine what all of the victims' families are going through.
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What a shitty event. =/


My personal rule during canyon runs (with passengers): Shift at 5k, and if the tires complain, I'm going too fast. It works out well.
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Sad for the 3 passengers, Fuck the stupid ass driving, I bet he regrets trying to be a badass
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Ah man...weak - didn't know DirtyOldMan personally never-the-less he was a fellow Zilvian and a member of this community. May he and the unfortunate souls that went with him rest in piece.
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Why can't these kids just keep it off the street??? 3 unnecessary deaths.

This needs to be an example for every young kid on this forum.

DO NOT INVOLVE YOURSELF IN ANY ILLEGAL STREET RACING. Just be safe on the roads.
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sad to hear, that girl didnt deserve to die for riding with a wreckless driver. =(
Keep it off the streets, if you must do it, then go alone and dont bring your friends along to impress them.

I agree with that last part. I mean I run the canyon almost everyday and I am by myself and will run it pretty hard if there isnt much traffic but even then most times i take it easy just because Im affraid of someone heading the otherway and freaking out and turning into me. If I am ever driving with a girl in my car and want to impress her ill get on it a little but nothing more than like 10 or 15 over. They still think its wicked fast. lol
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My personal rule during canyon runs (with passengers): Shift at 5k, and if the tires complain, I'm going too fast. It works out well.
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RIP, my heart goes out to their families and friends. This is sad, I almost wrecked it with a few of my friends in my own car, since then I have never ever driven hard on canyons with passengers. It's not worth risking my fun for someone else's life.

I hope this thread will be a reminder to me and everyone else reading that they should always think about what the consequences are for reckless driving.
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damn, this is sad. RIP to the 3 that died.
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ppl just need to learn

hooked up and modified cars wont make u an awesome driver
experience and knowledge is.

condolences to the families. rip to the victims.

let this be a lesson to everyone. do NOT street race or take advantage of speed especially with passengers in the vehicle. TAKE IT TO THE TRACK....and save a life!
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Crazy, I just met these kids at the hella norcal BBQ,
Hey Sean was this the white hatch with the carbon flares? If so I took hella pics of it. and I almost bought that silvia front off Alex not too long ago. Sucks to see such cool people go.

RIP Alex and the others that lost their lives.
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Hey Sean was this the white hatch with the carbon flares? If so I took hella pics of it. and I almost bought that silvia front off Alex not too long ago. Sucks to see such cool people go.
the white 240 hatch with carbon flares was marks car but he was driving ej's wrx which he crashed with the other 3 in the car, mark/driver only survivor

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And i was just wit Alex n Mark fri night before all this, so sad man cant believe it, we will hopefully be trying to finish Alex's car to enter it in wek' fest as what was planned since we were discussing it fri night.. RIP Alex,EJ, and Nan all will be dearly missed, as for others keep it on the track please

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Wow thats his car? I didn't recognize the screen name, but I sure do recognize the car. I do remember seeing a lot of his post. RIP
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RIP. Didn't know him but I've seen his car around.
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RIP and my condolences to the family and friends of Alex, EJ, and Nan...

I'm still speechless and shocked about this. I mean I was hanging out with them an hour before the accident and I met Nan for first time, and had no idea she was that young. I decided not to go with them and headed home after the meet.

As some one else said, most of us on here have made a poor judgement calls at one point in our lives. Mark and Alex were close friends and this wasn't the first time Alex was sitting next to Mark or their first time on that road.

Personally I just don't see how EJ gave his car to Mark and allowed him to drive it not just on street as test drive but in the canyon.

I'm sure he was speeding and tried to keep up with other drivers. But it's not summer time so I assume the asphalt was cold and wet and Mark with a unfamiliar fast car didn't make the best decisions and couldn't control the car.

I know sometimes it's nice to have a trust and respect for our friends but there is a limit to everything and I don't think EJ he should have let Mark to take the advantage of the car.

Also Mark as driver should have known better. He was driving someone else's car and there were passengers in the car. He should have think about the what if ... but it's too late now.

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ugh. My condolences as well to all the families who lost their love ones. Altho the canyons can be fun, it definitely isnt the safest place. Another example of why we should keep it on the track. Ive had a friend crash on the canyons and im just glad he is alive today.

To everyone who thinks they are invincible on the canyons, remember no matter how good you think you are, other factors come into play. BE SAFE!
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awful awful story...RIP to all that parted and good luck to the driver...his life is ultimately ended too...

some of you guys are cold...speculating why this girl was hanging out with people older than her...who cares? who are you to judge and question her integrity? 16 to 18? thats a sophomore hanging out with a senior...16 to 20? thats equivalent to a freshman hanging out with a senior? i dont see anything wrong with that...

lesson: take it to the track, havent ever been back up to the canyons in a car ever since the track...but when i did go up and drove:

1. dont ever "test" other peoples cars (i wouldnt even want that financial burden, lets not even talk about danger)
2. dont bring passengers
2. go with at least another car/driver (to make sure someone knows if anything happened) going alone is straight up RETARDED!!! i dont care how much you guys try and justify it...

so very sad, sounded like really nice kids with so much potential...
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so in that 3 peoples photo . the middle guy with glasses is the driver ?? wow man.. im asian and i have an asian parents that very superstious and they said .. IF u taken a picture with 2 other peopls , That mean u bringing bad luck to yourself..Wow Now im scurrr
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dang... that pretty fucked up.

I remember seeing this car in August when i was wheeling with my FJ in the Azusa Canyon Dirt park. First thought was hope they made it.

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if you are a filipino then yea thats an old superstition.


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hey if anyone knows when alex's birthday was i am having in memory of stickers made up for him and i need his birthday to finish it....... im having them done in black and white so if you are in sacramento and would like one pm me and we can meet up or you can stop by and pick one up.....also if anyone knows how to get ahold of alexs parents please pm me i have a few things that i would like to dicuss with them about helping out with the memorial for alex....thanks guys......
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dude man mark so sad to hear this happend i feel extremely sorry for everyone involved a prayer will be said for the fallen and mark an innocent great guy who was always willing to lend a hand and help me out no matter what

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Please learn from this.. cause it seems no ones does...
i know what you mean, i dont mean to go off topic but its like when you loose a friend to a drunk driver, your other friends who knew the victim are like "dam fuck drunk drivers".. then after some time, you hear about them getting shitfaced and driving like its no big deal.
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Seriously.. its almost as if no lesson was learned.. and it kills me inside.. I know we all do it.. but still tho..fuck..Im in the Marines and came back home to Sac for Thanksgiving and this happened the day right before I left..also my neighbor who had a RHD rx7 and an S15 just passed away from drinking and driving.. my dad talked to him an hour before he died.. he died 2 streets down from slamming on the brakes then flipping over his motorcycle into a metal pole.. he left behind a 8 year old and a fiancee whos pregnant..

condolences to all the families involved even yours mark.. my prayers are with you
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