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*exitspeed* · 09-01-2020, 09:27 AM

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/01/...orts-car-400z/

https://twitter.com/NissanMotor/stat...553595912?s=20

Well ain’t this some shit. Almost as if Nissan is reading this thread and our absolute disappointment in them and then decided to debut the Z prototype to appease us.

Debuts in 15 days.

Well well well boys and girls we have some real Nissan news to look forward to.

Dutchmalmiss · 09-01-2020, 09:46 AM

Wow, definitely unexpectedly sooner than later. Kind of excited for once haha. Does a prototype reveal involve mechanical specs as well? That'd be the more interesting bit.

*kingkilburn* · 09-01-2020, 09:52 AM

There's no way the Japanese government is letting a Chinese company buy out Nissan. They'd have let France have if they were inclined to let foreigners take over.

cdlong · 09-01-2020, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/01/...orts-car-400z/

https://twitter.com/NissanMotor/stat...553595912?s=20

Well ain?t this some shit. Almost as if Nissan is reading this thread and our absolute disappointment in them and then decided to debut the Z prototype to appease us.

Debuts in 15 days.

Well well well boys and girls we have some real Nissan news to look forward to.

They just released that official teaser. That usually only happens days or weeks before the official release. This seems like a long time actually, though the others I'm thinking of were other Japanese manufactures so there's bound to be some variation.

*exitspeed* · 09-01-2020, 10:32 AM

Nissan has this weird history with concepts and prototypes. If it’s NOT a sports car, they debut almost production ready concepts. If it’s a sports car however like the R35 and Z33 they have incredibly long and drawn out development periods.

I’m hoping with Ghosn out the damn way they can start fast tracking stuff, in a good way. With Ghosn it was always about making cars from a bean counter perspective.

tromer9 · 09-02-2020, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdlong

They just released that official teaser. That usually only happens days or weeks before the official release. This seems like a long time actually, though the others I'm thinking of were other Japanese manufactures so there's bound to be some variation.

Very interesting. I'm excited to see the actual style.

***Future240*** · 09-02-2020, 10:31 AM

I'm really pumped for a car I am never going to buy.

*brndck* · 09-02-2020, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Future240

I'm really pumped for a car I am never going to buy.

i was poised and ready to drop a deposit down for a IDX, but that dream will never come.

new z will be something i'd consider in 2035 when they're 10yrs old and have depreciated down into the mid $20k range. I'll be in my 50s then.

*exitspeed* · 09-02-2020, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brndck

i was poised and ready to drop a deposit down for a IDX, but that dream will never come.

new z will be something i'd consider in 2035 when they're 10yrs old and have depreciated down into the mid $20k range. I'll be in my 50s then.

So was I. If this Z is stick and is a good performer AND really looks like a new S30 I?ll be sold.

Dutchmalmiss · 09-02-2020, 02:41 PM

Apparently below was posted from Nissan's chief designer.

*exitspeed* · 09-02-2020, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

Apparently below was posted from Nissan's chief designer.

Oh shit I love that rear!!!!

Corbic · 09-02-2020, 03:42 PM

I see Z32 which is good.

spooled240 · 09-02-2020, 07:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=KFqtZFycG7k

"The Z Proto will be unveiled September 16 at the Nissan Pavilion"

feito · 09-02-2020, 08:16 PM

Are running s16's, i mean frs's obtainable for 6k yet?

*exitspeed* · 09-02-2020, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/01/...orts-car-400z/

https://twitter.com/NissanMotor/stat...553595912?s=20

Well ain?t this some shit. Almost as if Nissan is reading this thread and our absolute disappointment in them and then decided to debut the Z prototype to appease us.

Debuts in 15 days.

Well well well boys and girls we have some real Nissan news to look forward to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spooled240

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=KFqtZFycG7k

"The Z Proto will be unveiled September 16 at the Nissan Pavilion"

Literally welcome to yesterday.

spooled240 · 09-02-2020, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Literally welcome to yesterday.

Oh shit lol Just making sure no one missed this

*exitspeed* · 09-03-2020, 08:13 AM

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/03/...-technologies/

This should have been Nissan. But they?re too busy trying to unfuck themselves.

*brndck* · 09-03-2020, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feito

Are running s16's, i mean frs's obtainable for 6k yet?

no, but they're getting close
(this is salvage title, but still)
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sf...187728002.html

Dutchmalmiss · 09-03-2020, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/03/...-technologies/

This should have been Nissan. But they?re too busy trying to unfuck themselves.

Seriously. I would've advocated more for a Toyota/Nissan alliance since Toyota is injecting more sportiness in their models than Honda at the moment, but anything would be an improvement at this point haha.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 09-03-2020, 10:22 AM

Ford needs to partner with Nissan already... so they can badge engineer the Mustang to the Silvia

BryanSayWhat · 09-03-2020, 12:10 PM

I'd have no issue with Nissan using the Ecoboost 2.3 for a new Silvia. Chassis needs to be done by Nissan, though...

Also, it needs to be within 200lbs of the S15. lol

Corbic · 09-03-2020, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

Ford needs to partner with Nissan already... so they can badge engineer the Mustang to the Silvia

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I'd have no issue with Nissan using the Ecoboost 2.3 for a new Silvia. Chassis needs to be done by Nissan, though...

Also, it needs to be within 200lbs of the S15. lol

Naw, all both would care about I'd the money they'll save using the Ecosport chassis for the next Juke.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 09-03-2020, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I'd have no issue with Nissan using the Ecoboost 2.3 for a new Silvia. Chassis needs to be done by Nissan, though...

Also, it needs to be within 200lbs of the S15. lol

no and no... would much rather have current Mustang chassis with different interior and exterior. aftermarket world for the current mustang is HUGE! dont need to re-invent the wheel. new chassis is out of the question.

Nissan needs to partner with Ford, badge engineer the Silvia and follow the business model of the Supra. DONE!

Btw guys, not to burst any bubbles... but based on pricing from the 2002 S15 Spec-R Aero at $27,500, the car would cost roughly $39,000 in modern times.

ronmcdon · 09-03-2020, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I'd have no issue with Nissan using the Ecoboost 2.3 for a new Silvia. Chassis needs to be done by Nissan, though...

Also, it needs to be within 200lbs of the S15. lol

id have to agree with this. if you want both chassis and engine, just get the mustang then. more variety is welcome and its nice if nissan could contribute more and avoid much of stigma from the Zupra. I do think the mustang chassis would be great for an infiniti Q60 replacement or similar midsize luxury tourer

now if you?re dead set on badge engineering, the fiesta st and focus st or rs, that would cool. the current sentra and altima suck anways. would be less painful to lose the fiesta st if it were to be resurrected at the new nissan pulsar gtir

BryanSayWhat · 09-03-2020, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

no and no... would much rather have current Mustang chassis with different interior and exterior. aftermarket world for the current mustang is HUGE!

Do you really think a new Silvia wouldn't gain an even bigger aftermarket world?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

dont need to re-invent the wheel. new chassis is out of the question. Nissan needs to partner with Ford, badge engineer the Silvia and follow the business model of the Supra. DONE!

Why would they do that when they could just make a 4cyl Turbo Z? Also, why would S-chassis enthusiast want a new Silvia that's heavier than a current gen and probably next gen Z?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

Btw guys, not to burst any bubbles... but based on pricing from the 2002 S15 Spec-R Aero at $27,500, the car would cost roughly $39,000 in modern times.

I'm sure it would be comparable to how much the 03 350Z and 04 STI cost then vs. now:

2004 WRX STI (base) - $32,000 MSRP (which would be $43,892.18 in modern times)

2020 WRX STI (base) - $36,995 MSRP

2003 Nissan 350Z (base/ MT) - $26,370 MSRP (which would be $37,133.12 in modern times)

2020 Nissan 370Z (base/ MT) - $30,090 MSRP

cured13 · 09-03-2020, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

I'd have no issue with Nissan using the Ecoboost 2.3 for a new Silvia. Chassis needs to be done by Nissan, though...

Also, it needs to be within 200lbs of the S15. lol

That might work.
Oh, and no Pony F... bodywork please

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cured13 · 09-03-2020, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

Why would they do that when they could just make a 4cyl Turbo Z? Also, why would S-chassis enthusiast want a new Silvia that's heavier than a current gen and probably next gen Z?

Because it have to be bigger and possibly self driving.
Can't thing about other reason, lol

***dorkidori_s13*** · 09-03-2020, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanSayWhat

Why would they do that when they could just make a 4cyl Turbo Z? Also, why would S-chassis enthusiast want a new Silvia that's heavier than a current gen and probably next gen Z?

wont be a 4 cyl turbo Z... most likely two trims, N/A and turbo V6.

doubt the new Z will be much lighter than previous gen. its a touring car... and its still being built on the FM platform (or whatever theyre calling it now). most likely around 3200-3400lbs

*kingkilburn* · 09-07-2020, 11:41 AM

That sure looks like an automatic...

BryanSayWhat · 09-07-2020, 05:23 PM

Looks like a manual to me.

09-01-2020, 09:27 AM	#13261
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/01/...orts-car-400z/ https://twitter.com/NissanMotor/stat...553595912?s=20 Well ain’t this some shit. Almost as if Nissan is reading this thread and our absolute disappointment in them and then decided to debut the Z prototype to appease us. Debuts in 15 days. Well well well boys and girls we have some real Nissan news to look forward to. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

09-01-2020, 09:46 AM	#13262
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 38 Posts: 3,500 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Wow, definitely unexpectedly sooner than later. Kind of excited for once haha. Does a prototype reveal involve mechanical specs as well? That'd be the more interesting bit. __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

09-01-2020, 09:52 AM	#13263
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There's no way the Japanese government is letting a Chinese company buy out Nissan. They'd have let France have if they were inclined to let foreigners take over. __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

09-01-2020, 10:32 AM	#13265
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nissan has this weird history with concepts and prototypes. If it’s NOT a sports car, they debut almost production ready concepts. If it’s a sports car however like the R35 and Z33 they have incredibly long and drawn out development periods. I’m hoping with Ghosn out the damn way they can start fast tracking stuff, in a good way. With Ghosn it was always about making cars from a bean counter perspective. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

09-02-2020, 02:41 PM	#13270
Dutchmalmiss Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Socal (323) Age: 38 Posts: 3,500 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Apparently below was posted from Nissan's chief designer. __________________ Pignose, biaaatch.

09-02-2020, 03:42 PM	#13272
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09-02-2020, 07:11 PM	#13273
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09-02-2020, 08:16 PM	#13274
feito Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,999 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Are running s16's, i mean frs's obtainable for 6k yet? __________________ Tuners are big bullies

09-03-2020, 08:13 AM	#13277
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/03/...-technologies/ This should have been Nissan. But they?re too busy trying to unfuck themselves. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

09-03-2020, 10:22 AM	#13280
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,492 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Ford needs to partner with Nissan already... so they can badge engineer the Mustang to the Silvia __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!

09-03-2020, 12:10 PM	#13281
BryanSayWhat Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd have no issue with Nissan using the Ecoboost 2.3 for a new Silvia. Chassis needs to be done by Nissan, though... Also, it needs to be within 200lbs of the S15. lol

09-07-2020, 11:41 AM	#13289
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That sure looks like an automatic... __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

09-07-2020, 05:23 PM	#13290
BryanSayWhat Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks like a manual to me.