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Tearlessj · 02-23-2012, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by blessedhellrider

lol cages ,iv never seen a s chassis on its roof lol

Are you shitting me?

Lets all not cage any race car because you dont see them upside down.

S14 drift crash - YouTube

Quail · 02-23-2012, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blessedhellrider

lol cages ,iv never seen a s chassis on its roof lol

I know, dumb right? lol

blessedhellrider · 02-23-2012, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tearlessj

Are you shitting me?

Lets all not cage any race car because you dont see them upside down.

S14 drift crash - YouTube

calm down there buddy ,was just a little bit of sarcasm.!

s14unimog · 02-24-2012, 07:12 AM

Honestly though its fairly unlikely that you'll actually roll your car but don't forget all the other benefits of a cage (chassis stiffness, side protection, proper harness mounting, they look awesome, etc..)

It's obvious that most s-chassis are not used for high speed road racing but they're designed to crush up, so its your call.

I can't wait to get on building mine! There has got to be more cages on this forum.

Shatzen · 02-24-2012, 08:27 AM

Heres mine

TheClutchKicker · 02-25-2012, 12:53 AM

I like.. ^^

BTplaya · 02-28-2012, 01:51 PM

Just finished my 6-point this weekend. Not looking forward to painting it though.

!Zar! · 04-23-2013, 03:19 PM

Is it just me or does this look horribly wrong?

ghoti · 04-23-2013, 03:37 PM

The main loop looks like its closer to the C pillar rather than being almost parallel to the B pillar

xoxide · 04-23-2013, 03:38 PM

Its definetly not just you.

Martino · 04-23-2013, 03:43 PM

Don't remember if i posted this or not.

ALmost full interior with full cage.

ryandriftingfat · 04-23-2013, 03:45 PM

Mine. Track car. Done by Battle Version.

crzsteveo · 12-14-2013, 03:04 PM

bumping this old ass thread up.

I will be getting the S&W 8pt cage and installing that with a few modifications. ill be looking at a full interior with carpet rear seats, everything.

OBEE · 12-15-2013, 03:21 AM

not mine!

sonomadrifter · 12-15-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OBEE

not mine!

Some of this is quite good while other parts are terrible... Id like to see it finished.

Imarvin240 · 12-17-2013, 05:12 PM

Okay, so this is the cage that Touge Factory is doing for my Modified Class Global Time Attack Car. It's still not 100% complete yet, but you can get a sense as to the quality of the work and what the overall structure of the cage is.

slow40sx · 12-19-2013, 10:53 AM

Didn't really specify if you could post bolt ins or not but here's my cusco safety 21 and NRG harness bar, eventually will have a nice weld in with door bars but this cage was 300 bucks and it stiffens the chassis especially after I welded in floor plates to bolt it too, so this will do for now

PoorMans180SX · 12-19-2013, 01:53 PM

Are all of you guys running Nascar style door bars for ease of access? An X is stiffer and lighter...

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Originally Posted by slow40sx

Didn't really specify if you could post bolt ins or not but here's my cusco safety 21 and NRG harness bar, eventually will have a nice weld in with door bars but this cage was 300 bucks and it stiffens the chassis especially after I welded in floor plates to bolt it too, so this will do for now

A cage that goes around the dash is a no-no if you're looking for safety. That bend greatly weakens the bar, making it much more crush-able should your car end up on it's roof. Also, a hard hit in the front corner and that wheel is probably coming through the flimsy firewall and breaking your foot/leg before it's even touched the cage.

slow40sx · 12-19-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Imarvin240

SR Z33? More info please

slow40sx · 12-19-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

A cage that goes around the dash is a no-no if you're looking for safety. That bend greatly weakens the bar, making it much more crush-able should your car end up on it's roof. Also, a hard hit in the front corner and that wheel is probably coming through the flimsy firewall and breaking your foot/leg before it's even touched the cage.

Yeah like I said i paid 300 dollars for a 1000 dollar legit cusco safety 21 to stiffen up the chassis which I feel like is a killer deal for a chromoly bolt in cage engineered by a big name Japanese after market parts company, it stiffens the chassis up nicely and looks pretty cool imo, plus I'm not a competitive race car driver or anything so I don't really have a need for a serious weld in, I just drift for fun with my friends, I just saw it as a way to stiffen up the car and help in an unlikely rollover and if all those badass s-chassis' are running them at the tracks in japan that's good enough for me lol

tauntdevil · 12-19-2013, 05:42 PM

I see mostly caged S13's. Any chance does anyone have photos of the rear setup to an S14? Where exactly do you box to weld the cage too or do you weld a pipe onto a plate and weld the cage to the pipe like the s14 in before pages?

GabeS14 · 12-19-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tauntdevil

I see mostly caged S13's. Any chance does anyone have photos of the rear setup to an S14? Where exactly do you box to weld the cage too or do you weld a pipe onto a plate and weld the cage to the pipe like the s14 in before pages?

I dont have many

its still under construction in AZ.. I still am having him add some horizontal bars in the front tube front and thru the firewall bars..and a couple rear end bars.. keep in mind it also will have a small trunk cage .
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tauntdevil · 12-19-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GabeS14

I dont have many

its still under construction in AZ.. I still am having him add some horizontal bars in the front tube front and thru the firewall bars..and a couple rear end bars.. keep in mind it also will have a small trunk cage .
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Who are you having it done by? I am friends with almost every shop out here. (AZ) Would love to go check it out.

Edit: nvm, I remember who you are. Its being done by Intense power with the viper engine.
Long time ago I was offered a Viper engine setup complete, trans, ecu, wiring, etc for $6k but only had 3k. Regret not making it work out.

Hope to see this in person when its finished. When I get some time, Ill stop by there and see how its going. Maybe even send you some more pics.

SlideOrDie831 · 12-19-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tauntdevil

I see mostly caged S13's. Any chance does anyone have photos of the rear setup to an S14? Where exactly do you box to weld the cage too or do you weld a pipe onto a plate and weld the cage to the pipe like the s14 in before pages?

the rear ties into either the strut tower,wheel well, or both. front is either welded to a plate or a box is built and they drill a hole and drop the A pillar into it.

that Z33 is rocking an SR with a P11 head I believe. crazy shit

sonomadrifter · 12-19-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Are all of you guys running Nascar style door bars for ease of access? An X is stiffer and lighter...

Future rules. I race in other another series (with a different car) and Nascar bars are becoming the standard. Its already mandatory on the divers side (with a sill bar). Next year it has to be on the passenger side too, even though there is no seat or method to carry passengers. The focus is and should be on safety, everything else is a by product.

PoorMans180SX · 12-19-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sonomadrifter

Future rules. The focus is and should be on safety, everything else is a by product.

Interesting. I agree, and highly doubt a Nascar bar is any safer than a proper X, especially if it's just as close to the driver.

zerodameaon · 12-20-2013, 12:10 AM

Those really are not true NASCAR door bars either. Those extend into hollowed out doors to help keep it off the driver in the event of a side impact. It would be interesting to see the X style compared to the faux NASCAR bars in a side impact.

sonomadrifter · 12-20-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Interesting. I agree, and highly doubt a Nascar bar is any safer than a proper X, especially if it's just as close to the driver.

At the same distance I would agree. Mine are built this way to retain stock glass and function. I can add an exterior cage to this one (like Powers car) down the road if need be. To be clear a "proper X" in my eyes would be two complete tubes that are joined (A), not cut through like a diagonal through a harness bar (B).

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Pulled from NASA FORUMS: No photos, but here is an excerpt of Greg Amy's description:

"But post-race we all got a good look at the car. As described the door was completely destroyed, hammered well into the car. The passenger-side rollcage/intrusion protection had completely failed.

Richie had the venerable "X" bar on the passenger side, one diagonal tube, with two other tubes welded to that to make an "X". That structure failed. Your first thought is probably that the welds failed, but you would be wrong: all welds seemed to hold. The primarily structural failure was on the first main diagonal bar, which simple tore apart at its center in tension. Then, the two triangular "halves" of the X-bar system hinged inwards where they were welded to the main the front hoops, tearing the two tubes partially off.

PoorMans180SX · 12-20-2013, 08:45 PM

I would definitely agree about the two bent bars, and I would make gussets even larger than the ones in that pic.

VegasDrifterS13 · 12-20-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GabeS14

I dont have many

its still under construction in AZ.. I still am having him add some horizontal bars in the front tube front and thru the firewall bars..and a couple rear end bars.. keep in mind it also will have a small trunk cage .
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That frontend looks MEAN. Awesome Design.

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02-24-2012, 07:12 AM	#184
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 37 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Honestly though its fairly unlikely that you'll actually roll your car but don't forget all the other benefits of a cage (chassis stiffness, side protection, proper harness mounting, they look awesome, etc..) It's obvious that most s-chassis are not used for high speed road racing but they're designed to crush up, so its your call. I can't wait to get on building mine! There has got to be more cages on this forum. __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

02-25-2012, 12:53 AM	#186
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02-28-2012, 01:51 PM	#187
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04-23-2013, 03:43 PM	#191
Martino Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Don't remember if i posted this or not. ALmost full interior with full cage. __________________ IG: @vsMARTINO

04-23-2013, 03:45 PM	#192
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02-24-2012, 08:27 AM	#185
Shatzen Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Gwinnett, Ga Age: 31 Posts: 120 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Heres mine

04-23-2013, 03:19 PM	#188
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Is it just me or does this look horribly wrong?

04-23-2013, 03:38 PM	#190
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12-14-2013, 03:04 PM	#193
crzsteveo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: manasshole, VA Posts: 886 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	bumping this old ass thread up. I will be getting the S&W 8pt cage and installing that with a few modifications. ill be looking at a full interior with carpet rear seats, everything.

12-15-2013, 03:21 AM	#194
OBEE Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: N/A Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	not mine!

12-17-2013, 05:12 PM	#196
Imarvin240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: king of prussia, PA! Posts: 1,721 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Okay, so this is the cage that Touge Factory is doing for my Modified Class Global Time Attack Car. It's still not 100% complete yet, but you can get a sense as to the quality of the work and what the overall structure of the cage is. __________________ https://instagram.com/eck_matthew/

12-19-2013, 10:53 AM	#197
slow40sx Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 1,979 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Didn't really specify if you could post bolt ins or not but here's my cusco safety 21 and NRG harness bar, eventually will have a nice weld in with door bars but this cage was 300 bucks and it stiffens the chassis especially after I welded in floor plates to bolt it too, so this will do for now __________________

12-19-2013, 05:42 PM	#201
tauntdevil Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arizona/LA, California Posts: 476 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I see mostly caged S13's. Any chance does anyone have photos of the rear setup to an S14? Where exactly do you box to weld the cage too or do you weld a pipe onto a plate and weld the cage to the pipe like the s14 in before pages? __________________ S14 KA NA two cylinders, 75whp limper

12-20-2013, 08:45 PM	#209
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,574 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I would definitely agree about the two bent bars, and I would make gussets even larger than the ones in that pic. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.