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Old 05-22-2006, 08:56 PM   #61
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Here's a faq: What 1/4 times do you get with those v8's in your 240's?
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I fully expect 11.5 @ 128 in the 1320.
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Well a stock bodied FD with full interior and dot approved tires with a stock
ls1 that had only intake, headers, and exhaust has gone 11.80s
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Well a stock bodied FD with full interior and dot approved tires with a stock
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Hi guys,

You all should really check out what's going on over at LS1tech.com. I go by GIGAPUNK over there if you ever have any questions.
Hey, I've seen your posts over on LS1 as well as Freshalloy. It looks like using the R33 x-member makes it much easier for headers to fit.

I'll be doing this swap in the future. Maybe after my kids are out of daycare.

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Luke, ur the pimp. Im fully serious about doing an LS1 swap now. My redneck domestic friend used to always talk about LS1 motors in 240s but i never took it into serious consideration. I've already made arangements to sell my SR20 lol. 4 bangers suck.

So is the conversion kit ready to sell as of now? I dont really plan on doing the swap for another few months tho, but im pretty serious about doing it. All i need is the custom header, mounting kit, and drive shaft correct? Are you guys going ot have more detailed wiring info in the future?

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So anyone have any info on Nissan V8 swaps such as the vh's or vk's? Been doing some research, but I'm curious to know if anyone on here has done these swaps.
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He makes it sound a little slow, but slicks and an intake sticking thru the hood always makes me smile
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He makes it sound a little slow, but slicks and an intake sticking thru the hood always makes me smile
That dude is on an automatic and VH41 though.

Shop in florida is did a VH45 with a Z32 trans in their hatch, it sounds fucking sex.
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I'm starting my project next Monday!!!
Just drove my '98 s14 se for the first time yesterday.
Now I know why 240s are the 'Masters of Dorifto' choice!
This thing is hell for fun. I'm going to take it down to Sacramento Drag Races tonight for some base runs before I yank out the KA next week. I also picked up a canton road race pan for my LS1. By my rough measurements it should help me out so that I only have to set the firewall back about 4" now. I'll take some pictures with some more serious measurements next week.
Anyone think I can break 15s tonight?!
Toss me a PM if you're going to be at Sac tonight.
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Sounds great. Keep us updated.
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Old 07-14-2006, 04:57 PM   #73
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has anybody done this swap in norcal??i would be really interested on checking it out if you do
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Old 07-14-2006, 06:32 PM   #74
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I have done it in an fd. I am located in san jose.

We are currently looking for a s13 coupe shell to do the conversion if anyone has one.

We are also for hire to do the swap for you. Pm us for details.

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Old 07-14-2006, 09:27 PM   #75
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ahh nice!!ive seen another fd with an ls1 swap already down here and met the person but i forgot his name.but shoot me a pm about swap for hire ill try to hit you up on aim later also if possible.
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Old 07-19-2006, 11:35 PM   #76
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luke I'm unable to PM you, how ever how much would a typical swap cost, with radiator, fuel, clutch, and associated proper mods. for a basic LS1 with T5 tranny, also what is the top speed on them since the nissan's have different ratio ring and pinons??
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:57 AM   #77
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For many of us putting a vette engine into our S13's is way out of price range. A ford 302 would be MUCH MUCH less expensive. Its reliable, parts are cheap, and theres probaly more aftermarket parts then any other engine. 302's can be had for anywere from free to a couple hundred dollers. It may screw up the handling, but it wouldnt be that bad with some suspension tuning. It takes 300hp to the wheels in a fox body mustang to drop into high 12's in the 1/4mile, and they are 500lbs heavier then S13. With traction, what is it going to take an S13 to hit high 12's? Intake manifold, exhaust, maybe a cam for mid 12's? Bang for your buck, I beleive the 302 is the way to go. I'd love to have that mustang sound and power, but at the same time, not actually have to own a mustang.

Any plans for a Ford V8 kit, for those of us that can afford to swap in a vette motor?
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A Stock 302 barely makes 176hp to the wheels stock. 190hp with all the bolt ons. You need to add Heads, Intake Manifold and a Cam to get to 300hp. The that puts you into the price range of a LS1 that makes more HP than that stock and even more with bolt ons down the road. Sorry, I played the mustang game for many years before I got the 240. The returns aren't that great.
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Junkyard 302 with a basic rebuild (done by yourself),Heads, cam and an intake manifold dont cost anywere near the amount the amount a stock LS1 would cost. It took me 800$ in new/used engine parts to run 12.8 in an 83 GLX, I did have to do alot of other things to the car but it was only around a grand for any engine work. It cost me 200$ for the motor so thats 1000$ total. Or even easier, buy a slightly used supercharger setup for a grand or so, I beleive my friend made over 250hp to the wheels on a vortec supercharger he bought off ebay for under a grand. Bang for your buck, LS1 cant touch the 302. Even if a stock 302 only makes 176hp to the wheels, its still got a shitload more torque and probaly 50hp more to the wheels then a stock KA. Most likely be more reliable then the KA as well. With another grand in modifications, easily low 12's minimum. The only kit I would buy, woould be for the ford 302
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Are you talking Carbs? or EFI? Cause I'm sure I could whip together a 350 SBC from the junkyard that can put out more for the same $.
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im talking about EFI. I'd have no problem using a 350 SBC but would they use the same mounts as a LT1 or LS1? I do like ford better then chevy, but whatevers cheap and easy i'll take it. I would most likely go carburated 350 if the LT1/LS1 mounts are the same as the older 350. I'd still be interested in finding out if there are any plans for mounts to use a Ford 302.
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There are quite a few reasons for using a LS1.

-1hp & 1lb.-ft. of torque per cubic inch displacement.
-128lbs. lighter than the KA
-with a T56 you now have 6 gears.
-the LS1 is one of the best small block v8's (this is my opinion based on what I have read, seen, and heard about), you got the refinement, technology that is reliable, durability, fuel efficent, good emissions, capable of making high hp with minimal modifications, or running low 12's in the 1/4 mile completly stock.

I believe it has a lot to do with preference and what you want to work on or what you want from the car. There are so many options for the 240SX which is why I love this car. Everything from NA KA power, KA-T, SR, RB, Nissan V6's, Nissan V8's, Toyota V8's, LS1's, Ford 302's. I have decided to use the LS1 because of its performance and basically bang for the buck after looking into half of those options.
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my point was, alot of us cant afford ls1 engines, thats why most of us here drive stock S13s with stock KAs the 302 is a cheap easy way to gaining over 100ft lbs of torque. That much torque in a 2700lbs car is going to be alot of fun. Basicly the mount kit plus 300$ for the engine is what the swap would cost and extra for whatever else u want to do. For the LS1 its going to cost the mount kit plus around 4000$ for the engine. Not many of us can afford that. It would absolutly be worth it tho. But if the LS1 uses the same mounts as a old 350 SBC, i would quit bitching about a cheaper alternative to the LS1, because that would be that cheaper alternative.
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what has to be done to the chassis to make it so it does not bend or flex under torque loads?...im considering doing this after i get outta tech school just seeing what has to be done to the body and frame structure as that is where i will be starting
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what has to be done to the chassis to make it so it does not bend or flex under torque loads?...im considering doing this after i get outta tech school just seeing what has to be done to the body and frame structure as that is where i will be starting
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How about the new GTO ls2 can that be put in just as easy as the ls1 from a z28 etc.?? I have a great hook up on a GTO ls2 set up, thats the route im going if it will work with the hinson kit, headers and DS..

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Yes the LS2 will fit. It has the same external dimensions as the LS1, as does the LS6 and LS7. The difference is in the internals. The LS2 s typically more expensive than the LS1 just because it is a newer and more powerful engine. But since you say you have a hook-up, it shouldn't be a problem.
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A Stock 302 barely makes 176hp to the wheels stock. 190hp with all the bolt ons. You need to add Heads, Intake Manifold and a Cam to get to 300hp. The that puts you into the price range of a LS1 that makes more HP than that stock and even more with bolt ons down the road. Sorry, I played the mustang game for many years before I got the 240. The returns aren't that great.
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sorry buddy they make like 190hp give or take a few.... they were rated 225hp from factory with 300tq..... 175hp ..... must have been one wore out 302...... just exhust mods and intake on a 302 can put it into 220 to the rear wheels( i know i dynoed that on my 91 mustang)... the only reson they dyno low for a V8 is due to shitty heads and intake... change those out your good to go.

i would like to know when they will have a 302 kit for the s13 i think it would be a great swap and want to see a kit for it soon....
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im not sure if someone posted this already but what if u put a 4.6 mustang motor in an s13 how would i go about this...or has anyone done this b4??
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