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jarvis199 · 05-03-2005, 03:06 PM

Ok i HAVE searched this, and i know its somewhat possibly and been done, but can anyone tell me how hard it is to put a full s14 interior, wiring and all into my 1989, i have the 1995 engine and id like to convert my s13 to an s14 completely, if anyone has any info on this, i searched and i got minimal stuff, so i would like some help, thanks in advance...

Yoshi · 05-03-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarvis199

i have the 1995 engine and id like to convert my s13 to an s14 completely

WTF.
Buy and S14 then, I don't understand....
95 engine? what? 95KA or SR?
Your S13 will NEVER be a S14... they don't even resemble eachother I'm confused....

The front seats will bolt in, the rear seats will bolt in with a little help, but you'll still have the rear hinges exposed. Ta-da, done. The only wiring that should be involved is the seatbelt indicator... I'm not sure if the S14's is also wired to the airbag or not as S13's had no airbags... or at least, not in 89.

If I were u, I'd edit my post and delete the part about wanting to "convert" your s13 to S14... you're gonna get flamed hard, and I'm personally having a hard time holding back myself

Typically the only reason people swap the front seats of S13s is that hte S14 seats provide better grip and support, I've only seen maybe 4 people do the S14 rear, and it's just cuz their S13 seats were trashed and they wanted to match with the S14 fronts.

Seriously tho, this is going to cost your somewhere around $600 or so for fronts and rears, unless you find someone desparate to offload their seats, why not just leave your rears and get some nice grippy racing seats?

jarvis199 · 05-03-2005, 04:02 PM

ok wow im sorry, i totally didnt explain myself enough, ok i havea recked 1995 240, its got full interior and its in really good condtion, i just bought a s13 and someone tried to install the dohc engine and f-ed up all the wiring in the dash, so i was wondering if i could take the dash, dash harness shifter assembly, center console, front seats, carpet, etc. out and put it in my s13? i hope that makes more sence, im really sorry guys im new to nissan, and ive done a lot of searching but when your new to a site its hard to find the things you need to find...

i guess im really jsut wanting to know if a s14 dash will bolt in to a s13 (ive got the complete recked s14 car so if possible i could use the entire car wiring harness)

my s13 is pretty busted, the seats dont stay up, the hingles are broken off, the shifter has been broken, looks like someone shifted a little too hard. I bought the complete recked s14 for 75 dollars from a towing place, tehy have had it for 3 years and no one has touched it, 93,000 miles, so the ka out of it is still good too, but my main question still is WILL THE DASH AND DASH WIRING HARNESS FROM A S14 WORK IN AN S13, AND IS SO WHAT KIND OF MODS NEED TO BE DONE TO GET IT TO WORK ?

Dousan_PG · 05-03-2005, 04:13 PM

making the s14 wiring work in s13..LOTS of work. not even worth it. not at all.

this type of job comes down to:

if your asking, you arent ready for it.

Irving18m · 05-03-2005, 04:24 PM

Anything can be done with time and money and I say go for it. Im a Mustang guy and a few brave people put sn95 interior into a fox, those brave few have NICE interior in the fox! Good luck!

jarvis199 · 05-03-2005, 05:49 PM

ok, im fully capable of switching interior and doing the wiring, im not a newbie to cars, in any way, shape or form, im just new to nissans, so i figured who better to ask specifics than nissans guys? i was just wondering if the DASH will bolt in, i know the wiring will be difficult, but it will make for a great looking interior in the end, and i have time to get it done. If this isnt such a smart idea then i guess i need to find diagrams to wire the s14 harness into the s13

Dousan_PG · 05-03-2005, 06:57 PM

dash wont
s14 is wider..noticably wider

jarvis199 · 05-03-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

dash wont
s14 is wider..noticably wider

not from what my searching did find, they said to use the s13 bracket on the s14 dash, im jsut worried about how hard the re-routing of the wiring will be

sideview_180sx · 05-03-2005, 08:22 PM

this is not a honda where an integra dash will go into a civic, and using a heat gun to soften the door panels to conform to the new shape. Just swap seats and be done with it.

jarvis199 · 05-03-2005, 08:32 PM

i think no one actually understood what iw as trying to do, but thats ok, ive gotta drive 3 hours tomarrow for a s13 harness instead, so thats ok, thanks for your help everyone

blitz180 · 05-03-2005, 08:41 PM

this guy is in fact a one time honda owner... i'm positive of it. I bet he's the type of guy that tried ass dragging a civic around a corner in a mall lot, slammed into a wall blamed it on a snapped tie rod at 30 which is just damn rediculous and bought a nissan because "drifting is cool." S14 dash into S13 Chassis = Not in this lifetime.

Previous Honda owner turned S13 Owner

PWNED
Cha Mine

idlafie · 05-04-2005, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

making the s14 wiring work in s13..LOTS of work. not even worth it. not at all.

this type of job comes down to:

if your asking, you arent ready for it.

Hmmm...I wonder what this guy's excuse was.....an example of what one person did to his car....

>Old S13 wrote
>here are pics of a 240Z with a 350Z interior and motor... strange but >somewhat nice, atleast its well executed.. but still strange
>
>http://z31.com/unsorted/05-Motorsports-40.jpg
>http://z31.com/unsorted/05-Motorsports-43.jpg
>http://devster.net/roni/MSA_2005/IMG_5229.JPG

If Jarvis wants to take the effort to see if it's possible to convert his S14 interior into his S13, then more power to him. We already know the KA24DE motor will fit & work in the S13. Electrical is just a matter of cuttting all the harness plugs & wiring them up properly. It's adventurous people like this that allow us to learn about ourselves & our cars. I can kind of understand where he's coming from. He may have a S13 hatch that he would like to see a S14 interior in. He may have a lot of hard work ahead of him & may or may not find it worth his while, but at least he is willing to make the effort & learn. Gotta start somewhere right?? If it does, (or doesn't work), then he's learned something in the process right?? All US Zilvian's started somewhere right??
Anyhow, Jarvis, if you decide to go thru with this, good luck.
ID
'95 SE

jarvis199 · 05-04-2005, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitz180

this guy is in fact a one time honda owner... i'm positive of it. I bet he's the type of guy that tried ass dragging a civic around a corner in a mall lot, slammed into a wall blamed it on a snapped tie rod at 30 which is just damn rediculous and bought a nissan because "drifting is cool." S14 dash into S13 Chassis = Not in this lifetime.

Previous Honda owner turned S13 Owner

PWNED
Cha Mine

lol, someone check his location and mine, MANKIN!!!

haha, bought a nissan cause i kind of fell into it, and now kind of like it, oh and i have the broken tie rod in my room, IN case youd liek to see

AND iw asnt butt dragging my honda when i hit the wall, i was actually going strait, strangely enough its true, so mankin... CHA MINE

edit: oh yea, and mankin, what did u own before buying the s13? haha, come on admit it.... HE OWNED A DEL SOL, well actually the tree pwned it...

jarvis199 · 05-04-2005, 06:21 AM

MANKIN you son of a...

haha, thanks for bringing my self esteem down...

anyway, im about to drive to frigging louisville to buy a s13 dohc harness, and right now i didnt buy a 240 cause drifting is cool, i bought onecause i need something to drive and it was cheap, now thati got it i kind of like it, but we'll see

thanks idlafie for the positive response, i think i am going to end up going through wiht it, my s13 interior is a nasty blue, kind of beaten up too, so id like to see the nice, black s14 interior in my car, i really dont care how hard it is, and that stuff about "if u have to ask then u arent capable" is totally wrong, remember hte first tiem u swapped an engine? did ud o it by yourself? no you didnt u had to ask someone how to do some of it.

Anyway, ive taken a 1991 civic hatch dx, converted it to obd1 and did an mpfi swap and threw in a d16z6 engine all at the same time, so im not afraid of wiring or screwing around with my car, the interior might not make it faster, but its something to do till i can turbo the ka...

i think more of us honda guys would switch over to nissan if some of you werent so gayabout things, i mentioned i previously owned a honda and some of you just went nuts on me, to be honest, ive had the 240 for 3 days and i love it jsut as much as my honda hatch and i HAVENT EVEN HEARD IT RUN YET, 240's are sweet cars, but some of you are way too jumpy...

(not you mankin, your just well...

)

ryan hagen · 05-04-2005, 06:44 AM

i ve seen a s14 interrior in a s13, i for get if it wa son ebay or the forums, the door panels fit but kinda odly, and the handles took some rigging from the looks of it, the dash should fit with out much mods, if think about it the seats fit and i used s14 carpet in my s13 so i can safly say there isnt much differnt to the floor pan if anything. my carpet just doesnt match up well with my s13 kick panels. so it can be done a nd as long as you have it all your one up.chasis wireing is differnt, alot different, the lights are totally differnt through out the whole car and you ll have problems there. good luck, and if you ever wanna sell your s14 radiator or carpet let me know.

jarvis199 · 05-04-2005, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan hagen

i ve seen a s14 interrior in a s13, i for get if it wa son ebay or the forums, the door panels fit but kinda odly, and the handles took some rigging from the looks of it, the dash should fit with out much mods, if think about it the seats fit and i used s14 carpet in my s13 so i can safly say there isnt much differnt to the floor pan if anything. my carpet just doesnt match up well with my s13 kick panels. so it can be done a nd as long as you have it all your one up.chasis wireing is differnt, alot different, the lights are totally differnt through out the whole car and you ll have problems there. good luck, and if you ever wanna sell your s14 radiator or carpet let me know.

yea i could sell the radiator and carpet, email me [email protected]

SOLDIER [X] · 05-04-2005, 10:38 AM

i wish you the best of luck it's initiatives like these that help revolutionize car modding as well as modding in general.

jarvis199 · 05-04-2005, 10:40 AM

will the shifter assembly from an s14 work in an s13??? im starting the dash swap now and i want to make sure of the small stuff first...

jarvis199 · 05-04-2005, 10:40 AM

will the shifter assembly from an s14 work in an s13??? im starting the dash swap now and i want to make sure of the small stuff first...

oh yea and ill take pics of the progress if someone can tell me how to post them...

Dousan_PG · 05-04-2005, 11:18 AM

why dont you TRY it before saking? its not all that hard to test it first.

90RS13 · 05-04-2005, 12:11 PM

Did anyone else love that S30? I thought the 350z dash looked great. Man, I want one mnore and more by the day.

blitz180 · 05-05-2005, 10:29 AM

Z Cars are the Shit.... ALL of them (cept the 80's model 300ZX)

And Jarvis the S14 shifter should fit. All those trannies are the same cept for gear ratios (any difference in s14 and s13? wandering) SR and KA are swapable, so it should be between the KA motors too.

And while your at it, put the S14 KA in the car, and move the s14 KA's intake cam to the exhaust side, and put the s13 KA Exhaust cam on the s14 intake side free HP.

"MANKIN you son of a... haha, thanks for bringing my self esteem down...

anyway, im about to drive to frigging louisville to buy a s13 dohc harness, and right now i didnt buy a 240 cause drifting is cool, i bought onecause i need something to drive and it was cheap, now thati got it i kind of like it, but we'll see

thanks idlafie for the positive response, i think i am going to end up going through wiht it, my s13 interior is a nasty blue, kind of beaten up too, so id like to see the nice, black s14 interior in my car, i really dont care how hard it is, and that stuff about "if u have to ask then u arent capable" is totally wrong, remember hte first tiem u swapped an engine? did ud o it by yourself? no you didnt u had to ask someone how to do some of it.

Anyway, ive taken a 1991 civic hatch dx, converted it to obd1 and did an mpfi swap and threw in a d16z6 engine all at the same time, so im not afraid of wiring or screwing around with my car, the interior might not make it faster, but its something to do till i can turbo the ka...

i think more of us honda guys would switch over to nissan if some of you werent so gayabout things, i mentioned i previously owned a honda and some of you just went nuts on me, to be honest, ive had the 240 for 3 days and i love it jsut as much as my honda hatch and i HAVENT EVEN HEARD IT RUN YET, 240's are sweet cars, but some of you are way too jumpy...

(not you mankin, your just well... )

oh yea, and mankin, what did u own before buying the s13? haha, come on admit it.... HE OWNED A DEL SOL, well actually the tree pwned it... "

importnut · 05-05-2005, 12:55 PM

Just adding my thoughts. As far as the wiring is concerned, if you swap over EVERYTHING, it should work. The subtle differences would be, rear wiper, and flip up head lights. I've had to replace hacked up chassis harnesses before. Just takes time and patience.

Oh, and I'll also repeat this thought: If you have both cars, just try it. What do you have to lose? Time? Doesn't sound like you are too worried about that since you were going to drive 3 hours to pick up a harness. Most people that know how to do the work, did so by trying, making mistakes, and learning from them.

Good luck.

-Alex S.

05-03-2005, 03:06 PM	#1
jarvis199 Join Date: May 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s14 interior into an s13 Ok i HAVE searched this, and i know its somewhat possibly and been done, but can anyone tell me how hard it is to put a full s14 interior, wiring and all into my 1989, i have the 1995 engine and id like to convert my s13 to an s14 completely, if anyone has any info on this, i searched and i got minimal stuff, so i would like some help, thanks in advance...

05-03-2005, 04:13 PM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	making the s14 wiring work in s13..LOTS of work. not even worth it. not at all. this type of job comes down to: if your asking, you arent ready for it. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-03-2005, 06:57 PM	#7
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	dash wont s14 is wider..noticably wider __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-03-2005, 08:22 PM	#9
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	this is not a honda where an integra dash will go into a civic, and using a heat gun to soften the door panels to conform to the new shape. Just swap seats and be done with it. __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

05-03-2005, 08:41 PM	#11
blitz180 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Usa-shi, Oita-ken, Japan Age: 41 Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this guy is in fact a one time honda owner... i'm positive of it. I bet he's the type of guy that tried ass dragging a civic around a corner in a mall lot, slammed into a wall blamed it on a snapped tie rod at 30 which is just damn rediculous and bought a nissan because "drifting is cool." S14 dash into S13 Chassis = Not in this lifetime. Previous Honda owner turned S13 Owner PWNED Cha Mine Last edited by blitz180; 05-04-2005 at 03:08 AM..

05-03-2005, 04:02 PM	#3
jarvis199 Join Date: May 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok wow im sorry, i totally didnt explain myself enough, ok i havea recked 1995 240, its got full interior and its in really good condtion, i just bought a s13 and someone tried to install the dohc engine and f-ed up all the wiring in the dash, so i was wondering if i could take the dash, dash harness shifter assembly, center console, front seats, carpet, etc. out and put it in my s13? i hope that makes more sence, im really sorry guys im new to nissan, and ive done a lot of searching but when your new to a site its hard to find the things you need to find... i guess im really jsut wanting to know if a s14 dash will bolt in to a s13 (ive got the complete recked s14 car so if possible i could use the entire car wiring harness) my s13 is pretty busted, the seats dont stay up, the hingles are broken off, the shifter has been broken, looks like someone shifted a little too hard. I bought the complete recked s14 for 75 dollars from a towing place, tehy have had it for 3 years and no one has touched it, 93,000 miles, so the ka out of it is still good too, but my main question still is WILL THE DASH AND DASH WIRING HARNESS FROM A S14 WORK IN AN S13, AND IS SO WHAT KIND OF MODS NEED TO BE DONE TO GET IT TO WORK ?

05-03-2005, 04:24 PM	#5
Irving18m Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 39 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Anything can be done with time and money and I say go for it. Im a Mustang guy and a few brave people put sn95 interior into a fox, those brave few have NICE interior in the fox! Good luck!

05-03-2005, 05:49 PM	#6
jarvis199 Join Date: May 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok, im fully capable of switching interior and doing the wiring, im not a newbie to cars, in any way, shape or form, im just new to nissans, so i figured who better to ask specifics than nissans guys? i was just wondering if the DASH will bolt in, i know the wiring will be difficult, but it will make for a great looking interior in the end, and i have time to get it done. If this isnt such a smart idea then i guess i need to find diagrams to wire the s14 harness into the s13

05-03-2005, 08:32 PM	#10
jarvis199 Join Date: May 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think no one actually understood what iw as trying to do, but thats ok, ive gotta drive 3 hours tomarrow for a s13 harness instead, so thats ok, thanks for your help everyone

05-04-2005, 06:21 AM	#14
jarvis199 Join Date: May 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	MANKIN you son of a... haha, thanks for bringing my self esteem down... anyway, im about to drive to frigging louisville to buy a s13 dohc harness, and right now i didnt buy a 240 cause drifting is cool, i bought onecause i need something to drive and it was cheap, now thati got it i kind of like it, but we'll see thanks idlafie for the positive response, i think i am going to end up going through wiht it, my s13 interior is a nasty blue, kind of beaten up too, so id like to see the nice, black s14 interior in my car, i really dont care how hard it is, and that stuff about "if u have to ask then u arent capable" is totally wrong, remember hte first tiem u swapped an engine? did ud o it by yourself? no you didnt u had to ask someone how to do some of it. Anyway, ive taken a 1991 civic hatch dx, converted it to obd1 and did an mpfi swap and threw in a d16z6 engine all at the same time, so im not afraid of wiring or screwing around with my car, the interior might not make it faster, but its something to do till i can turbo the ka... i think more of us honda guys would switch over to nissan if some of you werent so gayabout things, i mentioned i previously owned a honda and some of you just went nuts on me, to be honest, ive had the 240 for 3 days and i love it jsut as much as my honda hatch and i HAVENT EVEN HEARD IT RUN YET, 240's are sweet cars, but some of you are way too jumpy... (not you mankin, your just well... ) Last edited by jarvis199; 05-04-2005 at 10:42 AM..

05-04-2005, 06:44 AM	#15
ryan hagen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: rhinelander wisconsin Age: 41 Posts: 1,465 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i ve seen a s14 interrior in a s13, i for get if it wa son ebay or the forums, the door panels fit but kinda odly, and the handles took some rigging from the looks of it, the dash should fit with out much mods, if think about it the seats fit and i used s14 carpet in my s13 so i can safly say there isnt much differnt to the floor pan if anything. my carpet just doesnt match up well with my s13 kick panels. so it can be done a nd as long as you have it all your one up.chasis wireing is differnt, alot different, the lights are totally differnt through out the whole car and you ll have problems there. good luck, and if you ever wanna sell your s14 radiator or carpet let me know. __________________ 1990 hatch ka24de gt2871r

05-04-2005, 10:38 AM	#17
SOLDIER [X] Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Some place over yonder. Age: 39 Posts: 304 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i wish you the best of luck it's initiatives like these that help revolutionize car modding as well as modding in general.

05-04-2005, 10:40 AM	#18
jarvis199 Join Date: May 2005 Location: kentucky Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	will the shifter assembly from an s14 work in an s13??? im starting the dash swap now and i want to make sure of the small stuff first...

05-04-2005, 11:18 AM	#20
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 45 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	why dont you TRY it before saking? its not all that hard to test it first. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-04-2005, 12:11 PM	#21
90RS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2004 Location: Newark, Arkansas Age: 40 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did anyone else love that S30? I thought the 350z dash looked great. Man, I want one mnore and more by the day. __________________

05-05-2005, 10:29 AM	#22
blitz180 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Usa-shi, Oita-ken, Japan Age: 41 Posts: 169 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Z Cars are the Shit.... ALL of them (cept the 80's model 300ZX) And Jarvis the S14 shifter should fit. All those trannies are the same cept for gear ratios (any difference in s14 and s13? wandering) SR and KA are swapable, so it should be between the KA motors too. And while your at it, put the S14 KA in the car, and move the s14 KA's intake cam to the exhaust side, and put the s13 KA Exhaust cam on the s14 intake side free HP. "MANKIN you son of a... haha, thanks for bringing my self esteem down... anyway, im about to drive to frigging louisville to buy a s13 dohc harness, and right now i didnt buy a 240 cause drifting is cool, i bought onecause i need something to drive and it was cheap, now thati got it i kind of like it, but we'll see thanks idlafie for the positive response, i think i am going to end up going through wiht it, my s13 interior is a nasty blue, kind of beaten up too, so id like to see the nice, black s14 interior in my car, i really dont care how hard it is, and that stuff about "if u have to ask then u arent capable" is totally wrong, remember hte first tiem u swapped an engine? did ud o it by yourself? no you didnt u had to ask someone how to do some of it. Anyway, ive taken a 1991 civic hatch dx, converted it to obd1 and did an mpfi swap and threw in a d16z6 engine all at the same time, so im not afraid of wiring or screwing around with my car, the interior might not make it faster, but its something to do till i can turbo the ka... i think more of us honda guys would switch over to nissan if some of you werent so gayabout things, i mentioned i previously owned a honda and some of you just went nuts on me, to be honest, ive had the 240 for 3 days and i love it jsut as much as my honda hatch and i HAVENT EVEN HEARD IT RUN YET, 240's are sweet cars, but some of you are way too jumpy... (not you mankin, your just well... ) oh yea, and mankin, what did u own before buying the s13? haha, come on admit it.... HE OWNED A DEL SOL, well actually the tree pwned it... "

05-05-2005, 12:55 PM	#23
importnut Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NW Indiana Age: 47 Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just adding my thoughts. As far as the wiring is concerned, if you swap over EVERYTHING, it should work. The subtle differences would be, rear wiper, and flip up head lights. I've had to replace hacked up chassis harnesses before. Just takes time and patience. Oh, and I'll also repeat this thought: If you have both cars, just try it. What do you have to lose? Time? Doesn't sound like you are too worried about that since you were going to drive 3 hours to pick up a harness. Most people that know how to do the work, did so by trying, making mistakes, and learning from them. Good luck. -Alex S. __________________ "What about the twinkie?"