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battlescar · 07-14-2008, 03:41 AM

so im trying to buy a cncbrakes staging brake, i called like 6 places none of them have it in stock and its on back order. so i was looking at some other brake handles and saw a cutting brake or also called turning brake. the only difference between a stagin brake and a cutting brake look like is just one more slave cyliner and u can push or pull the on the cutting brake and the staging one is only pull. so im thinking it would work just the same.

QUESTION: on the cutting brake, there are 2 outs, one on each cyliner, and one in. can i run the lines on both of the cyliners and than use a T fitting and both lines go to the one line to the rear brakes? so i can push or pull the rear brakes would brake right? or can i plug the out on the top one and take out the push rod, so i can only pull. would this work also?

THESE 2 DIAGRAMS ARE FROM CNCBRAKES.COM

McRussellPants · 07-14-2008, 11:19 AM

Cutting brake is a different brake for each wheel.

there is no "tee-ing" involved in hydraulic hand brakes, if you try to T it in its gonna suck and lock up and then probably break your master cylinder.

just get the Ksport or Drift Works handbrake, they come with lines, they're meant to be handbrakes and not staging brakes or cutting brakes so they work as hand brakes.

CNC is for sand rails and shit, they aren't meant for our application.

battlescar · 07-15-2008, 01:55 AM

i know what cutting brake and staging brake is, and i dont see the difference between the staging brake and the ksport ebrake beside the looks, they both have a slave cylinder and a handle. and drag racers use staging brake also, not just sand rails. ok what about the other way? plug the top cylinder's out and take out the push rod?

i need tires · 07-15-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by battlescar

i know what cutting brake and staging brake is, and i dont see the difference between the staging brake and the ksport ebrake beside the looks, they both have a slave cylinder and a handle. and drag racers use staging brake also, not just sand rails. ok what about the other way? plug the top cylinder's out and take out the push rod?

the staging brake will work just fine my friend that dude above doesnt know....

just tap into the rear brake line with the staging brake my friend has done it and works amazing!!!!

battlescar · 07-15-2008, 02:17 AM

oh yea i know they work but i cant find a staging brake, they are on back order and seem like no where has them in stock. i wanna know if i can get the cutting brake to do the same as the staging brake.

g6civcx · 07-15-2008, 08:02 AM

Think a little about how hydraulic pressure works. If you put a random T into the line, fluid will go from high pressure to low pressure. You need the fluid to expand the caliper piston and then allow the piston the freewheel when pressure is taken away.

battlescar · 07-15-2008, 10:36 PM

ok thanks for the info, how bout plug the top cylinder and take the push rod out?

07-14-2008, 03:41 AM	#1
battlescar Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: duluth, mn Age: 41 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a different hydro ebrake question so im trying to buy a cncbrakes staging brake, i called like 6 places none of them have it in stock and its on back order. so i was looking at some other brake handles and saw a cutting brake or also called turning brake. the only difference between a stagin brake and a cutting brake look like is just one more slave cyliner and u can push or pull the on the cutting brake and the staging one is only pull. so im thinking it would work just the same. QUESTION: on the cutting brake, there are 2 outs, one on each cyliner, and one in. can i run the lines on both of the cyliners and than use a T fitting and both lines go to the one line to the rear brakes? so i can push or pull the rear brakes would brake right? or can i plug the out on the top one and take out the push rod, so i can only pull. would this work also? THESE 2 DIAGRAMS ARE FROM CNCBRAKES.COM

07-14-2008, 11:19 AM	#2
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cutting brake is a different brake for each wheel. there is no "tee-ing" involved in hydraulic hand brakes, if you try to T it in its gonna suck and lock up and then probably break your master cylinder. just get the Ksport or Drift Works handbrake, they come with lines, they're meant to be handbrakes and not staging brakes or cutting brakes so they work as hand brakes. CNC is for sand rails and shit, they aren't meant for our application.

07-15-2008, 01:55 AM	#3
battlescar Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: duluth, mn Age: 41 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i know what cutting brake and staging brake is, and i dont see the difference between the staging brake and the ksport ebrake beside the looks, they both have a slave cylinder and a handle. and drag racers use staging brake also, not just sand rails. ok what about the other way? plug the top cylinder's out and take out the push rod?

07-15-2008, 02:17 AM	#5
battlescar Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: duluth, mn Age: 41 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh yea i know they work but i cant find a staging brake, they are on back order and seem like no where has them in stock. i wanna know if i can get the cutting brake to do the same as the staging brake.

07-15-2008, 08:02 AM	#6
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Think a little about how hydraulic pressure works. If you put a random T into the line, fluid will go from high pressure to low pressure. You need the fluid to expand the caliper piston and then allow the piston the freewheel when pressure is taken away.

07-15-2008, 10:36 PM	#7
battlescar Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: duluth, mn Age: 41 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok thanks for the info, how bout plug the top cylinder and take the push rod out?