Drift entrance techniques/form

[!Zar!]

Lifting a little is different from lifting completely.

[240dream]

Originally Posted by !Zar!

Lifting a little is different from lifting completely.

So just lift little wait till I rotate and get in it again? I know tire psi plays some part in spinning out I think im at 50psi with 270hp should I drop it down?

[!Zar!]

A small/moderate lift works. Though it really depends on the corner.

If you have that much power you don't really need to be running such high pressure. Plus it kills your tires faster.

[imput1234]

Originally Posted by jasoncanseeoh

1. How do you upshift mid-drift without losing drift?

Try to be as smooth as possible.

When you let go of the throttle and come back in modulate it accordingly to keep the slide going.
You can also modulate the clutch or clutch-kick to help. But the key is being as smooth as possible, if your too jerky you will straighten out or spin.

Originally Posted by jasoncanseeoh

2. How do you downshift mid-drift without losing drift?[/I][/B]
Any help is appreciated! Thanks dudes.

E-brake or foot brake to slow down, when your in the right rpm range, clutch in and clutch out. Then power over, keep it smooth, the downshift will automatically give you a lot of angle, on top of the angle you gained from slowing down, be ready for that.

Here is a video of me driving (not a 240) but I downshift after the big sweeper from 3nd to 2nd.




and in one of the runs near the end I upshift again to 3rd.

[iamtheyi]

I need some insight into driving at Balcony at Willow Springs. Is the "new" course possible with a stock KA? I've always felt that going around the shack would be impossible because of the lack of power from the KA.

The layout with just the circle before was retarded enough having to clutch kick every two seconds lol.

[xBtony]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

I need some insight into driving at Balcony at Willow Springs. Is the "new" course possible with a stock KA? I've always felt that going around the shack would be impossible because of the lack of power from the KA.

The layout with just the circle before was retarded enough having to clutch kick every two seconds lol.

Speed. Lol. Enter in 3rd carry as much speed as you can through the first turn and throw it into second on the first transition, ran it last weekend with a stock dual cam and not too many clutch kicks. Thats the way I've been able to get it done at least. Before I used to enter in 2nd and you can still run the whole course but many clutch kicks are needed.

[iamtheyi]

Originally Posted by xBtony

Speed. Lol. Enter in 3rd carry as much speed as you can through the first turn and throw it into second on the first transition, ran it last weekend with a stock dual cam and not too many clutch kicks. Thats the way I've been able to get it done at least. Before I used to enter in 2nd and you can still run the whole course but many clutch kicks are needed.

What size tires and wheels do you run?

[xBtony]

I was driving my buddies car he's got 17x8 with 205/40s, 0 rear camber.

[dreamin240sx]

Drift nirvana drifting summit point WV - YouTube

this is me at summit point wv. first time on the track with my new setup. I went off the track once lol but hey it happens also this is my first drift practice of 2012. enjoy

[Grenade180sx]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

What size tires and wheels do you run?

the main thing to remember when running a stock KA or likewise engine. is keep your angle shallow to help keep the speed up, big angle with low power cars results in spins and losing your drift altogether usually.

[whyteboi]

Originally Posted by dreamin240sx

Drift nirvana drifting summit point WV - YouTube

this is me at summit point wv. first time on the track with my new setup. I went off the track once lol but hey it happens also this is my first drift practice of 2012. enjoy

Looks good Nick.

[iamtheyi]

I guess I'll just have to do whatever I can. Full throttle all the time.

No lifting as always I'm guessing?

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

I need some insight into driving at Balcony at Willow Springs. Is the "new" course possible with a stock KA? I've always felt that going around the shack would be impossible because of the lack of power from the KA.

The layout with just the circle before was retarded enough having to clutch kick every two seconds lol.

Definitely possible with a KA. Clutch kick is how most people do it especially the corolla group. I run 225/50R17 all around and sometimes 245 instead though 245 makes it difficult, as long as you are full throttle (which is what you need to do for KA almost all the time) you should be alright.
After a few runs, you will most likely get a feel of what to do in order to keep the wheels going.

[imput1234]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

I guess I'll just have to do whatever I can. Full throttle all the time.

No lifting as always I'm guessing?

Lifting fully scrubs a shit ton of speed, never fully lift.

[StigMeister]

so with a stock KA you wanna go WOT (never fully lift) and keep a shallow angle?
what about a stock SR? I would spin out a lot when I first got my stock SR, also had my fair share of understeer

[vibe240]

with my stock sr im full trottle most of the time while lifting a little when necessary

[vibe240]

(put in hd )


last ''track'' day of 2012 . track was wet and clutch was dying . was praticing getting close to the wall . was pretty fun .

[KA240SX808]

Shit my phone, Glove box?
Damn I'm strapped in.
Fuck it I'll just sit on it.
lmao


Looks like a pretty fun Skid pad.
Any steering mods?

Also sorry but I have to throw this in there. Welded VLSD?

[KA240SX808]

Originally Posted by StigMeister

so with a stock KA you wanna go WOT (never fully lift) and keep a shallow angle?

That's the "Secret" of keeping a KA sideways. Come in Fast, Stay WOT, and keep a Shallow angle.

[vibe240]

Originally Posted by KA240SX808

Shit my phone, Glove box?
Damn I'm strapped in.
Fuck it I'll just sit on it.
lmao


Looks like a pretty fun Skid pad.
Any steering mods?

Also sorry but I have to throw this in there. Welded VLSD?

no steering mod except tein tie rod spacer , getting the knuckles modified next season

and yeah you can weld a vlsd and its really great ! My mecanic did it so im not exactly sure how but I think he opened everything and welded the spider gear inside the diff .

[240dream]

Originally Posted by vibe240

no steering mod except tein tie rod spacer , getting the knuckles modified next season

and yeah you can weld a vlsd and its really great ! My mecanic did it so im not exactly sure how but I think he opened everything and welded the spider gear inside the diff .

instead of welding you could have shimmed it to make it a 2 way(welded diff alays locked) but speaking of knuckles is anyone running the pmb pro ones?

[cantdrift11]

Question for you guys! So I'm running a gutted, cage sxe10, basically stock 2jge. About 200hp to the wheel and gutted weighing about 3000. Still heavy... I run 225's all around. With our cars you can't get much aggressive offsets to push the wheel base further out. Trying to fit some aggressive wheels and not down with reverse raking :/
Would it be wrong to go wider like 235's while keeping 225's in the rear. It would just allow me to keep my 17's up front more aggressive and not destroying my fiber glass fenders at full lock. 225/40/17 rarely exist so 235/49/17 maybe.....?

[bataangpinoy]

you mean track, not wheelbase.

wheelbase refers to length from wheel to wheel (front to rear).

[crzsteveo]

KAs are the best to learn IMO. Ive personally been watching guys with more power than they can handle/drive with at summit point.

I love my KA. Pretty much what everyone is saying is good. Just enter in a corner with some speed, then drop it into second or whatever kind of turn it might be. If your gonna drift in 3rd gear, what i do is yank the ebrake and get the rpms up high then let the clutch out and itll continue to slide. key thing is to never let off the throttle.

this vid i did some 3rd gear drifting. its hard.

3rd gear drifting - YouTube

[KA240SX808]

Looks like you could def use some more Front Grip, Tire wise atleast.
Also with a course like that and having a KA, all my initiations would be clutch kick feints.
For the sole purpose of keeping as much momentum as possible, especially with those 3rd gear entries.

[iamtheyi]

I finished balcony this weekend. Going around the shack with a KA is retarded. 0 power. Ultimate frustration. I'll put up videos for pointers if I can do that somehow. No in car though. No gopro or anything. Filmed from outside.

[iamtheyi]

So here's small edit I pulled from the track event showing my most frustrating part of the entire event. The stupid green shack I can't get around because of lack of power. It's retarded.

Forgive the shittiest video quality in the world. My friend's camera is not what you would call modern technology.

Any pointers?

These were the best two runs around that thing. Every thing else my car just kind of stops.

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

So here's small edit I pulled from the track event showing my most frustrating part of the entire event. The stupid green shack I can't get around because of lack of power. It's retarded.

Forgive the shittiest video quality in the world. My friend's camera is not what you would call modern technology.

Any pointers?

These were the best two runs around that thing. Every thing else my car just kind of stops.

What gear would you be in once you transitioned for the shack? Sounds like you needed to downshift or setup the turn before hand to let you leave it in higher rpms so you have enough power to get somewhat through the turn.

Also, your friends camera makes the video look like an old 2005 ish video or like the old Drift101 videos. haha

[KA240SX808]

What's your setup?
I'm assuming that your in 2nd at the time of leaving the shack?
If you haven't already up your Rear Tire pressure to at least 55. That's normally what I run. Sometimes I step into 60psi but rarely do.
Sounds like a few clutch kicks could help keep that going.
You may need to come in a little more wide and shallow to keep it going though. But I know your not gonna keep that sweep coming from the shack in one shake especially from that low a speed in a KA.
So you can either come out the shack shallow and hold it as long as you can or come in a make like your gonna do a complete circle around the shack but switch to a right real quick and then kick it back out left.

Now idk the course nor have a driven on it. Just giving insight from what your video shows.

[Aroddalobster]

it just sounds to my noob ears like you really need to downshift into 1st somewhere around the transition.