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Kr240sx · 05-25-2011, 12:01 PM

So A friend of mine has offered me his old red top SR20det for $400, and it has recently threw a rod and put a small hole in the block about the size of a quarter. Other info
-Main bearing Ceased
-No cams
-No Injectors
-Tranny is good
- Turbo needs to be rebuilt
I figured I could tear it down and throw it on a stand and pick away at it over the next year or so. Would you do it? I know it needs a lot but could it potentially end up being cheaper or same price? And I feel it may lend me the opportunity to buy the good parts of the get-go rather then replacing/rebuilding etc. Thanks I look forward to your input.

s13boy89 · 05-25-2011, 12:06 PM

dont buy that shit, wtf you stupid bro.

Kr240sx · 05-25-2011, 12:07 PM

Haha I am likely not, just a thought, Wanted to see if anyone else seen a more optomistic view on the offer.

daryl337 · 05-25-2011, 12:52 PM

Block welding alone is not cheap. But what you are looking at could potentially be practically impossible to do.

If the hole in the block also went through an oil galley, you have no possible way to separate water from oil even if you managed to weld the exterior of the block and insert new sleeves.

Its a dead end for you.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 05-25-2011, 01:06 PM

You should buy it and just plug the hole with silly putty!!! If it did that much damage on the bottom end, what makes you think anything is fucking salvageable off it?!?! Offer him $40 for the tranny...thats about all you can use at this point.

cotbu · 05-25-2011, 01:49 PM

The head, transmission, and harness, plus accessories could be more than $400 if you can salvage that, buy it. The block maybe only worth it's weight.
Get out of that box gentlemen!

theboy · 05-25-2011, 02:04 PM

give him $100 tops, beacause your buying a boat anchor. The block is junk, crank is junk, head might be salvageable, trans could be good (but who knows how much he beat it), wiring harness (if not butchered) could be nice as a spare or quick buck.

But if you think about it, your buying a head and trans for $400. Thats all you can really use. Why rebuild the t25 if your going to "build" a motor with "good parts?" youll probably upgrade that as well, which means youll cook the trans, so youll upgrade that as well. basically its not worth it to you. Buy a nice block thats already had the machining done and start a build. Your buddy is fucking you raw without spitting on it first, in this deal. Now tell him to be gentle.

P.S. - Holes in blocks make blocks garbage. Idk anyone who has welded a block and it lasted or was worth doing it. It would make a pretty sweet coffee table though.

*Wake* · 05-25-2011, 02:32 PM

Let me put it to you like this.

My buddy sold me an entire longblock, minus manifolds, for 500 all it needed was a hone.

what your talking about is bordering on stupid, but pretty much what daryl said is what your looking at.

4-20sx · 05-25-2011, 02:36 PM

dont buy it!! waste of money! lol

surge s14 · 05-25-2011, 03:47 PM

hell no thats a rip off!

you should stop being friends with him

*Wake* · 05-25-2011, 03:49 PM

^^ what they said.

Kr240sx · 05-26-2011, 06:03 AM

Alright thanks for your input guys. To be honest I am pretty new at this, never bought a motor before so just asking. When I bought my car I had no idea how to do anything to it, now my car is working flawlessly with great mods that I did myself but now it's time for me to keep reading and get ready for a motor swap. Just looking for your guys's 2 cents on the idea. I never thought it was worth it but never hurts to hear a second opinion.

camaro379ss · 05-26-2011, 07:52 PM

Just trust your gut feeling....Usually if its not worth it then chances are its not.

yetijeff · 05-26-2011, 08:50 PM

^amen...........

ska · 05-26-2011, 08:59 PM

cool friend you have their...

Mishkin_707 · 05-27-2011, 10:52 PM

The reason he's asking is because he heard sr20 for $400, excitement set in before common sense, it's happened to lots of people, he's a newb at this, don't flame him we were all this way about one thing or another one time and that's the reason we're on here today looking for info and giving info on our mistakes and triumphs so newbs can learn too.

OP, this is going to save ya money and headaches, No.

Save your money and buy an engine that is functional

This "friend" is ripping you off, selling a motor to you because he knows you're new to this so it's a quick easy $400 in his pocket while you eventually realize it's not salvageable.

Ask yourself why wouldn't he just keep it? Because it's useless.

Good luck bro.

cotbu · 05-28-2011, 07:41 PM

Pm me your friends contact info, im interested in everything for $400

Sent from my highly tuned vibrant!

05-25-2011, 12:01 PM	#1
Kr240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would you do it? So A friend of mine has offered me his old red top SR20det for $400, and it has recently threw a rod and put a small hole in the block about the size of a quarter. Other info -Main bearing Ceased -No cams -No Injectors -Tranny is good - Turbo needs to be rebuilt I figured I could tear it down and throw it on a stand and pick away at it over the next year or so. Would you do it? I know it needs a lot but could it potentially end up being cheaper or same price? And I feel it may lend me the opportunity to buy the good parts of the get-go rather then replacing/rebuilding etc. Thanks I look forward to your input. Last edited by Kr240sx; 05-25-2011 at 12:03 PM.. Reason: forgot something

05-25-2011, 12:06 PM	#2
s13boy89 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: anaheim Age: 34 Posts: 1,991 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	dont buy that shit, wtf you stupid bro. __________________ I have kids running around here I dont want to use an xxr as a coffe table

05-25-2011, 12:52 PM	#4
daryl337 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pac NW Age: 38 Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Block welding alone is not cheap. But what you are looking at could potentially be practically impossible to do. If the hole in the block also went through an oil galley, you have no possible way to separate water from oil even if you managed to weld the exterior of the block and insert new sleeves. Its a dead end for you. __________________ This is my clever and witty signature.

05-25-2011, 01:06 PM	#5
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	You should buy it and just plug the hole with silly putty!!! If it did that much damage on the bottom end, what makes you think anything is fucking salvageable off it?!?! Offer him $40 for the tranny...thats about all you can use at this point. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

05-25-2011, 01:49 PM	#6
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 49 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The head, transmission, and harness, plus accessories could be more than $400 if you can salvage that, buy it. The block maybe only worth it's weight. Get out of that box gentlemen! __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

05-25-2011, 12:07 PM	#3
Kr240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Haha I am likely not, just a thought, Wanted to see if anyone else seen a more optomistic view on the offer.

05-25-2011, 02:04 PM	#7
theboy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago Age: 35 Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	give him $100 tops, beacause your buying a boat anchor. The block is junk, crank is junk, head might be salvageable, trans could be good (but who knows how much he beat it), wiring harness (if not butchered) could be nice as a spare or quick buck. But if you think about it, your buying a head and trans for $400. Thats all you can really use. Why rebuild the t25 if your going to "build" a motor with "good parts?" youll probably upgrade that as well, which means youll cook the trans, so youll upgrade that as well. basically its not worth it to you. Buy a nice block thats already had the machining done and start a build. Your buddy is fucking you raw without spitting on it first, in this deal. Now tell him to be gentle. P.S. - Holes in blocks make blocks garbage. Idk anyone who has welded a block and it lasted or was worth doing it. It would make a pretty sweet coffee table though.

05-25-2011, 02:32 PM	#8
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 41 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Let me put it to you like this. My buddy sold me an entire longblock, minus manifolds, for 500 all it needed was a hone. what your talking about is bordering on stupid, but pretty much what daryl said is what your looking at. __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

05-25-2011, 02:36 PM	#9
4-20sx Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: los angeles Age: 39 Posts: 2,113 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	dont buy it!! waste of money! lol __________________ "get that nacho out of my face"

05-25-2011, 03:47 PM	#10
surge s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Laredo Texas Posts: 1,125 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	hell no thats a rip off! you should stop being friends with him __________________

05-25-2011, 03:49 PM	#11
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 41 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	^^ what they said. __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

05-26-2011, 06:03 AM	#12
Kr240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright thanks for your input guys. To be honest I am pretty new at this, never bought a motor before so just asking. When I bought my car I had no idea how to do anything to it, now my car is working flawlessly with great mods that I did myself but now it's time for me to keep reading and get ready for a motor swap. Just looking for your guys's 2 cents on the idea. I never thought it was worth it but never hurts to hear a second opinion.

05-26-2011, 07:52 PM	#13
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Just trust your gut feeling....Usually if its not worth it then chances are its not. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

05-26-2011, 08:50 PM	#14
yetijeff Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Corona Ca Age: 34 Posts: 765 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^amen...........

05-26-2011, 08:59 PM	#15
ska Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	cool friend you have their...

05-27-2011, 10:52 PM	#16
Mishkin_707 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: everywhere Age: 42 Posts: 732 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The reason he's asking is because he heard sr20 for $400, excitement set in before common sense, it's happened to lots of people, he's a newb at this, don't flame him we were all this way about one thing or another one time and that's the reason we're on here today looking for info and giving info on our mistakes and triumphs so newbs can learn too. OP, this is going to save ya money and headaches, No. Save your money and buy an engine that is functional This "friend" is ripping you off, selling a motor to you because he knows you're new to this so it's a quick easy $400 in his pocket while you eventually realize it's not salvageable. Ask yourself why wouldn't he just keep it? Because it's useless. Good luck bro. Last edited by Mishkin_707; 05-28-2011 at 02:03 AM..

05-28-2011, 07:41 PM	#17
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 49 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Pm me your friends contact info, im interested in everything for $400 Sent from my highly tuned vibrant! __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"