Ni-2: 240SX National Convention Discussion

[BadMoJo]

yeah, i can go like 330 or so on a tank. So we shouldnt need to many gas stops if we are all full from the start. But bathroom and snack breaks are always good.

As far as rooms go I am taking a friend with me so we have a room covered.

Sub groups is a good idea to but we should all try to stick together as long as possible.

[mav1178]

We just had another meeting last night about the convention, and we agreed to have one of the guys arrange a drive from the hotel to Speedzone at 3PM on Friday to "lead" the out-of-towners to Speedzone.

Again, I warn you guys about taking the 101.  Between the hotel and Speedzone alone it will probably take a good hour or 90 minutes.  Even on weekends the 60 freeway is a big parking lot.

You can ultimately do whatever you want, but if you are late to Speedzone your parking space (if you have registered) will be given up, and you might not get your food.

-alex

[drifting240sx]

ill room with you blackfox

[S14.5]

how about we get one biggggggg asss room and all share. we'll all sleep on the floor hahaha, well i duno. do you guys know how many rounds can a beginner track person can go? perhaps half of us can get helmets and their finish with the track they can let us boroow it? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> of course walkie talkie is a most but dont WE have to get all the same kind of walkie talkie and brand so it will all function right together??? frys electronics have plenty for a good $60 anyways i think dan has a motorola?? tell me what model you have later so we can post it up and people can get the same thing &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

[mav1178]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14.5 @ June 17 2002,6:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">do you guys know how many rounds can a beginner track person can go?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It is all listed on the website.

Each track session is 20 minutes long. &nbsp;Since there are 4 run groups, and we start around 8:30 or 8:40, we would have a complete cycle every hour and 20 minutes.

Assuming every run group gets equal track time, you would get at least 4 20-minute runs, or perhaps 5 if everyone is on time.

But trust me, if you have never been to a track event before, you'll want to go home by mid afternoon. &nbsp;Track events gets tiring real quick real fast.

-alex

[Silverx240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ June 17 2002,08:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah I was thinking we'll have sub-groups, and each one will have a "leader" responsible for keeping his group together and not losing anyone. Each leader will also have his group's phone numbers. Hehheh we should report in like Star Wars. ^_^ "Red 2, standing by." "Red 5, standing by."
I think we should also have a stop or two before San Luis Obispo.

<!--QuoteBegin--BlackFox+June 16 2002,9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BlackFox @ June 16 2002,9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We're gonna break the group up into 2 or 3 sub groups right? because we're bound to get separated if we have that many cars. Don't forget to get walkietalkies people.

...

I think a second stop in Thousand Oaks might be good. ... post up your gas mileage and Danio could you edit the gas mileage into the list of people so it's easier to read.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
How about this:

We all meet at the San Jose Train Station (or where ever the final place that we decide is). &nbsp;Then 2-3 groups take different routes to pick up members. &nbsp;For example group 1 will take I-5, group 2 will take 101, and group 3 will take another highway/freeway, and each of the group will pick up members along the way. &nbsp;And meet again where all 3 roads/streets/highways/freeways meet, then we all go to the hotel or Speedzone. &nbsp;Will that be timed right or the members using I-5 will be waiting for the other 2 groups?

Is this what you guys are thinking of/discussing?

TJ

PS. Any one close to Hercules/Pinole/Richmond, that would want to meet up to go to the final NorCal meeting place? &nbsp;I'll be staying with my cousin before the meet, and I'm not at all familiar with the places other than those cities.

Thanks!

[Danio]

VOLUNTEER TO BE A GROUP LEADER!
Please volunteer to be a caravan group leader. The group leader will be responsible for keeping his group together and reporting in to the other groups.

For example, if someone is late to San Jose, his group will wait for him while the other groups go on ahead. His group leader will call him to find out his status, and also report to the other groups. The other groups will wait for that group at the first suggested stop.

Or if during the trip someone has to take a leak and can't make it to the next suggested stop, that person's group will stop with him and meet with the other groups later at the next suggested stop. Each group leader MUST have a mobile phone so that he can contact, or be contacted by, the other groups if they're out of the 2-way radios' range.


The plan so far: (nothing final yet)

Meet time and location
6:00 AM - San Jose - CalTrain/Amtrak station

Departure time
7:15 AM

Route
Highway 101
ATTENTION: (Please continue discussing ways to avoid traffic.)

Suggested stops
1. Salinas - [suggest a location]
2. San Luis Obispo - Madonna Inn
3. Thousand Oaks - [suggest a location]

Destination
La Mirada - Holiday Inn (event hotel)

Target Arrival Time
2:45 PM

Caravan
Jason - Castro Valley
Daniel - Fremont
Joe - Milpitas
Mike - Milpitas
TJ - Oakland
Koji - Sacramento
Cole - Salinas
Koto - San Francisco
Noname - San Francisco
Jeff - San Jose
Aaron - San Mateo
Bill - San Luis Obispo
David - Santa Clara
TJ - Oregon
*

Caravan groups
[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Hotel room groups
- Daniel, Mike, David, ???
- ???
- ???

* ATTENTION
If you'll be part of the caravan and have not confirmed it with S14.5 Mike through e-mail, please do so with the following info:
- Name
- Phone number
- Location
E-mail: [email protected]

[lVll2. S14]

the noname in san francisco is me. my name is Alan. my other friend with his 240 might be coming with me he also lives in san francisco and i dunno if he wants to be named so lets just call him AA.

[lVll2. S14]

i live in san francisco . isnt the drive down to san jose like 1 hr or 1 1/2 hrs??? so i might as well stay up that night

[S14.5]

DAMNIT EMAIL ME MAN! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[Danio]

Mike: I don't think we can get a hotel room that'll fit 14 people. I don't want to share a bathroom with so many people anyway.

TJ: I don't think 101 and 5 meet anywhere until we get very close to LA, so it's probably not necessary to meet somewhere if there's gonna be different groups taking different highways.

Alan: We don't need your friend's name if he's gonna be your passenger. E-mail Mike your info so we'll be able to contact you by e-mail and by phone.

I guess the plan in this thread is to take 101, mainly because we'll be stopping at a couple places near 101 to pick up people. If anyone feels that taking 5 will be a lot better for whatever reasons (time, don't like big groups, etc.), feel free to start another thread and plan a separate caravan.

[S14.5]

caaann i get a AHEEMMm &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;good $hit dan

[jarells13-14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ June 18 2002,01:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mike: I don't think we can get a hotel room that'll fit 14 people. I don't want to share a bathroom with so many people anyway.

TJ: I don't think 101 and 5 meet anywhere until we get very close to LA, so it's probably not necessary to meet somewhere if there's gonna be different groups taking different highways.

Alan: We don't need your friend's name if he's gonna be your passenger. E-mail Mike your info so we'll be able to contact you by e-mail and by phone.

I guess the plan in this thread is to take 101, mainly because we'll be stopping at a couple places near 101 to pick up people. If anyone feels that taking 5 will be a lot better for whatever reasons (time, don't like big groups, etc.), feel free to start another thread and plan a separate caravan.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Is TJ Oakland supposed to be me? If so you should change oakland to San Jose <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

As for the traffic issue, well I've never been on 101 so I don't know how long it takes but I do know LA traffic to an extent, it sucks, if you never been, well all I can say is once you experience it makes the bay area look good IMHO. There's nothing like being on a bumper to bumper 10 lane freeway on a saturday afternoon <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>. It's funny too cause my friend down there has a 240 and he detuned it to gain some low end because he can never use top end cause he sits in traffic so much.

Just for a count Anyone who wants to take the 5 freeway or not go 101 email me @ [email protected]. That way we'll know how many people, if any want to take hwy 5. Mike I'll let you know how many people want to go that route as soon as I find out.

My thoughts are 5 is straight, easy, fast, but boring
101 longer, some uncertainty (taffic wise), should be funner though.

there's my $.02 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

Tj

[jarells13-14]

Oh ya I'll be a leader &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[Danio]

The plan so far: (nothing final yet)

Meet location and time
San Jose - CalTrain/Amtrak station
6:00 AM
JEFF: Please find out the address of that place. Thanks.

Departure time
7:00 AM

Destination and target arrival time
La Mirada - Holiday Inn (event hotel)
2:30 PM

ATTENTION: Does anyone feel that we should meet at 5 AM and leave by 6 AM? The caravan from the hotel to Speedzone leaves at 3 PM.

Route
Highway 101
ATTENTION: Please continue discussing ways to avoid traffic.

Suggested stops
1. Salinas - [COLE: Please suggest a location.]
2. San Luis Obispo - Madonna Inn
3. Thousand Oaks - [suggest a location]

Caravan
Jason - Castro Valley
Daniel - Fremont
Joe - Milpitas
Mike - Milpitas
Koji - Sacramento
Cole - Salinas
Alan - San Francisco
Koto - San Francisco
Jeff - San Jose
TJ - San Jose
Aaron - San Mateo
Bill - San Luis Obispo
David - Santa Clara
TJ - Oregon
ATTENTION: If you'll be part of the caravan and have not confirmed it with S14.5 Mike through e-mail, or your name is Alan, please do so with the following info:
- Name
- Phone number
- Location
E-mail: [email protected]

Group leaders
TJ - San Jose
Daniel - Fremont
[group leader] - [must be able to meet at San Jose]
ATTENTION: We need one more group leader.

Each group leader will be responsible for keeping his group together and reporting in to the other group leaders.

For example, if someone is late to San Jose, his group will wait for him while the other groups go on ahead. His group leader will call him to find out his status, and also report to the other groups. The other groups will wait for that group at the first suggested stop.

Or if during the trip someone has to take a leak and can't make it to the next suggested stop, that person's group will stop with him and meet with the other groups later at the next suggested stop. Each group leader MUST have a mobile phone so that he can contact, or be contacted by, the other groups if they're out of the 2-way radios' range.

Caravan groups
[Group name]
- TJ - San Jose
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Alpha group
- Daniel - Fremont
- Mike - Milpitas
- David - Santa Clara
- [Name]
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Hotel room groups
- Daniel, Mike, David, ???
- ???
- ???
ATTENTION: Remember that reservations at the Event Hotel need to be made before July 8.

[S14.5]

I DUNO WHICH WAY IS FASTER!!!! why can't we all just go together. well the point is to pick up the other guys on the way. if we take a different route other then that, whats the point of the caravan shiet. we are all not in any rush since its going there for fun. one person says other place has traffic and another place has traffic. why dont we just take the route where we can actually meet up with the other guys? okkkkkk? the point of the caravan is for everyone to go together, not the opposite. STICK TOGETHER &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[Danio]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14.5 @ June 18 2002,09:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I DUNO WHICH WAY IS FASTER!!!! why can't we all just go together. well the point is to pick up the other guys on the way. if we take a different route other then that, whats the point of the caravan shiet. we are all not in any rush since its going there for fun. one person says other place has traffic and another place has traffic. why dont we just take the route where we can actually meet up with the other guys? okkkkkk? the point of the caravan is for everyone to go together, not the opposite. STICK TOGETHER :hmmm:</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Supposedly 5 is faster. Some people might want to take that route so they can wake up and depart later or arrive at the hotel and Speedzone earlier.

As far as us not being in any rush, we actually are kind of in a rush. Over half of the people attending the Convention are from SoCal and they'll have much less of a problem than us getting to the Event Hotel by 3 PM. 3 PM is when they're caravaning from the hotel to Speedzone, where supposedly parking and food are limited. We want to try and make that 3 PM caravan to Speedzone.

Yes we are going there to have fun, and getting there is half the fun (haha cliche ^_^), but getting there on time so that we don't miss out on things that we've paid for is even more important. So if anyone wants to take 5 to SoCal, we'll understand. (Well, Mike might understand. =P) Just let us know ASAP. But of course we all know that sticking to our big caravan is the better choice because it's more fun, you'll have more people to talk to along the way, and it's just awesome having a road trip alongside so many other 240SXs. ;)

Some of us are taking 101 for sure because, like Mike said, we're picking up people along the way. In this forum thread we're planning the 101 caravan.

Now I'm gonna move my previous jumbo post to this page.

[Danio]

The plan so far: (nothing final yet)

Meet location and time
San Jose - CalTrain/Amtrak station
6:00 AM meet
7:00 AM depart

Destination and target arrival time
La Mirada - Holiday Inn (event hotel)
2:30 PM

Route
Highway 101

Suggested stops
1. Salinas - Northridge Mall
2. San Luis Obispo - Madonna Inn
3. Thousand Oaks - [suggest a location]

Caravan (group leaders in bold)
Jason - Castro Valley
Daniel - Fremont
Joe - Milpitas
Mike - Milpitas
Koji - Sacramento
Cole - Salinas
Alan - San Francisco
Koto - San Francisco
Jeff - San Jose
TJ - San Jose
Aaron - San Mateo
Bill - San Luis Obispo
David - Santa Clara
TJ - Oregon

Caravan groups
[Group name]
- TJ - San Jose
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Alpha group
- Daniel - Fremont
- Mike - Milpitas
- David - Santa Clara
- [Name]
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Hotel room groups
- Daniel, Mike, David, ???
- ???
- ???

2002 National 240SX Convention

JEFF: Please find out the address of that CalTrain/Amtrak station.
COLE: Please suggest a parking lot at Northridge Mall.
ALAN: E-mail Mike your phone number so we can contact you later by e-mail and phone.

ATTENTION:
- Please continue discussing ways to avoid traffic and arrive at the hotel on time. Where should we get off 101? By what time should we be at San Luis Obispo, Thousand Oaks?
- If you'll be part of the caravan and have not confirmed it with S14.5 Mike through e-mail, please do so with the following info: name, phone number, location. [email protected]
- We need one more group leader. Each group leader will be responsible for keeping his group together and reporting in to the other group leaders. Each group leader must have a mobile phone so that he can contact, or be contacted by, the other groups if they're out of the 2-way radios' range.
- Remember that reservations at the Event Hotel need to be made before July 8.

[Edit: Added Northridge Mall to Salinas location.]

[drifting240sx]

well guys you &nbsp;could go northridge mall to pick me up.if you guys know where that is. it like right off of 101.maybe 45 mins from san jose.

[Silverx240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ June 18 2002,9:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Caravan groups
[Group name]
- TJ - San Jose
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Alpha group
- Daniel - Fremont
- Mike - Milpitas
- David - Santa Clara
- [Name]
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Is there a group meeting/group leader from north of SF?

Also if we do take 101 will we be going directly to Speedzone or there will be time to check in then go to Speedzone? &nbsp;I don't mind taking the "longer/fun" route just as long as we get at Speedzone in time for the food
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> . &nbsp;We will surely be hungry when we get to LA.
&nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>


Thanks.

TJ
Oregon

[mav1178]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ June 17 2002,08:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">By the way, Alex said NorCal has about 15 people registered for the Convention so far</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
This is the number of TOTAL people that have registered for the convention, regardless of whether or not they are going to Speedzone.

This may very well mean that there will be 2 guys going to Speedzone, and 13 guys showing up on Saturday morning.

-alex

[Danio]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silverx240sx @ June 18 2002,2:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is there a group meeting/group leader from north of SF?

Also if we do take 101 will we be going directly to Speedzone or there will be time to check in then go to Speedzone?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think you're the only one from north of SF. If you'll be at Hercules, it's not hard to find your way down to San Jose, if that's what you're worried about. Just take 880 South.

The plan is to head over to the hotel first so everyone can drop off their stuff, but that's assuming we'll be able to check-in, drop off our stuff, and get back to our cars to join the Speedzone caravan on time.

Glad you brought this up. If during our trip we feel that we won't have time to stop at the hotel first, maybe we'll head straight for Speedzone.

Or maybe our plan should be to go directly to Speedzone. Then during our trip if we find ourselves way ahead of schedule, we go to the hotel first.

What do you all think? Try to get to the hotel before 3:00 so we can join the caravan to Speedzone, or skip the hotel and try to get to Speedzone on our own by 4:00?

[S14.5]

isnt there a certain time for hotel check in?? either way is fine,we dont have that much stuff to bring to stress about anyways &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[jarells13-14]

What's the exact route were taking, by that I mean after 101 what freeways are we switching on to?

[SQ-XcON S13]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> the point of the caravan is for everyone to go together, not the opposite. STICK TOGETHER &nbsp;
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hey Mike, 'Stick together Team!' &nbsp;LOL....anyways, count me in on the alpha group, lates. &nbsp;Lookin forward to taking 101 for the very first time, haha.

Jason

[drifting240sx]

just put me in any group. also the best place to meet up with me in northridge mall is in the parking lot of macys.

[BadMoJo]

What time do you guys think you will hit San Luis Obispo? &nbsp;And the Madonna Inn is the exit you will take but we should meet at the BlockBuster Video store like right off the 101 across from the Shell gas Station.

[Silverx240sx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ June 19 2002,1:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteBegin--Silverx240sx+June 18 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Silverx240sx @ June 18 2002,2<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is there a group meeting/group leader from north of SF?

Also if we do take 101 will we be going directly to Speedzone or there will be time to check in then go to Speedzone?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think you're the only one from north of SF. If you'll be at Hercules, it's not hard to find your way down to San Jose, if that's what you're worried about. Just take 880 South.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
OK. &nbsp;Is anyone close to Stockton then? &nbsp;I'll probably just stay with my aunt. &nbsp;

Thanks.

TJ

[Danio]

The plan so far: (nothing final yet)

Meet location and time
San Jose - CalTrain/Amtrak station
6:00 AM meet, 7:00 AM depart

Destination and target arrival time
La Mirada - Holiday Inn (event hotel)
2:30 PM

Route
Highway 101

Suggested stops
1. Salinas - Northridge Mall - Macy's parking lot
2. San Luis Obispo - Madonna Inn - Blockbuster across Shell
3. Thousand Oaks - [suggest a location]

Caravan (group leaders in bold)
Jason - Castro Valley
Daniel - Fremont
Joe - Milpitas
Mike - Milpitas
Koji - Sacramento
Cole - Salinas
Alan - San Francisco
Koto - San Francisco
Jeff - San Jose
TJ - San Jose
Aaron - San Mateo
Bill - San Luis Obispo
David - Santa Clara
TJ - Oregon

Caravan groups
[Group name]
- TJ - San Jose
- Cole - Salinas
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Alpha group
- Daniel - Fremont
- Mike - Milpitas
- David - Santa Clara
- Jason - Castro Valley
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Hotel room groups
- Daniel, Mike, David, ???
- ???
- ???

2002 National 240SX Convention

JEFF: Please find out the address of that CalTrain/Amtrak station. Thanks.
ALAN: E-mail Mike your phone number so we can contact you later by e-mail and phone. Thanks.

ATTENTION:
- Please continue discussing ways to avoid traffic and arrive at the hotel on time. Where should we get off 101? By what time should we be at San Luis Obispo, Thousand Oaks? What routes should we take before/once we're in LA?
- If you'll be part of the caravan and have not confirmed it with S14.5 Mike through e-mail, please do so with the following info: name, phone number, location. [email protected]
- We need one more group leader. Each group leader will be responsible for keeping his group together and reporting in to the other group leaders. Each group leader must have a mobile phone so that he can contact, or be contacted by, the other groups if they're out of the 2-way radios' range.
- Remember that reservations at the Event Hotel need to be made before July 8.

[Danio]

Bill: No idea when we'll hit San Luis Obispo. 11 AM plus/minus 1 hour? Dunno. We'll give you a call when we're near, or you can call us. :P

Is that Blockbuster easy to see once we get off the highway, and big enough for about 13 cars to park? I just know that the Blockbusters around here have small parking lots and 13 cars would take up a big chunk of the lot. We'd be stopping a while for people to peepee, gas up, and/or get some food.

TJ: Nobody in our caravan's from Stockton. I think Stockton's about 2 hours away from where we're meeting in San Jose. In case you don't know the way from Stockton, it's:
&nbsp; 5 South
&nbsp; 205 West, which becomes 580 West
&nbsp; 680 South
&nbsp; Mission Blvd exit (the 2nd one, after Automall/Durham) towards 880
&nbsp; Mission Blvd becomes 880 South after the big intersection
&nbsp; (Use MapQuest for the more detailed directions.)

From there, just keep going and you'll be in San Jose. You might want to start driving by 4:45 AM to meet us on time. O_o