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Old 06-24-2002, 04:51 PM   #121
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Black or White.

Still working out the details but should be around $100. Send an email to [email protected]

I'll probably order by the end of this week. This will be easy for you NorCal people because you can just pick it up from me or I can drop it off.

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Hmm... I'm looking for a helmet myself, but aren't the ones you're offering "Street Helmets"? Are those "SA" rated? I thought that those might get "M" ratings and are not allowed for the track event. I think Alex mentioned something about not allowing those w/ "M" rated helmets on the track, "SA 2000" only. (Alex, if you read this, please correct me if I'm wrong)

I know that Don is selling a helmets for this event and has a few choices. I'm probably going to get my "Bell M2" Helmet from him, unless you can give me a better price? (Picking up from NorCal would be easier for me). Lemme know if the Star 1's are "M" or "SA 2000" rated. (Also, PM me if you can get me a price for a "Bell M2" helmet&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Thanks!

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Old 06-24-2002, 05:05 PM   #122
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Aaron, that's a good question. On Bell's web site it says that the M helmets as well as the Star 1 all meet of exceed DOT/Snell and M2000 specs

I'm not sure what that means but I don't think Bell would make helmets that don't pass safety standards.

I don't think Bell makes the M2 anymore, it's not on their site unless someone has them in stock already

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Found an answer, M is for motorcycle and has less specs it has to pass. SA is special application

So what helmets will pass SA? I don't see any made by Bell

Oops, skip that, found the site http://www.bellmotorsports.com

I guess I've been looking at the motorcycle helmets w/o knowing



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Again, I stress that SA-rated helmets are the ONLY ONES the track officials will let you use. &nbsp;hell, I won't let you go on the track without SA-95 or newer rating helmets.

M-rating helmets are always cheaper. &nbsp;

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There's a slight possibility that I won't be able to drive with you guys to SoCal because I might stay in Taiwan until July 26. If that becomes the plan, I'll try to book a flight that arrives in LA on the 27th early in the morning, and I'll need to ask someone to pick me up (possibly one of you :P). But right now that's all a maybe (and unlikely). I'll know for sure and let you guys know within a few days.

Meanwhile, you guys should start figuring out who you'll be sharing rooms with. Maybe there should be a meet this weekend, if that'll help.
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sorry guys daniel has changed his mind because after all the chinese girls in taiwan is making him bored so he is going home early &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
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Old 06-26-2002, 12:21 AM   #127
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Eh... Ignore the youngin'. He meant to say that I'll be back between July 1 and 9.
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i bet you there is going to be a lot of people that are going to show up at the convention saying they didn't see no thread or anything about a caravan or they just don't care to reply &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>
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Hey everyone, I just noticed something. There's 2 hotels on the national conventions site. One is the Holiday Inn in LaMiranda which is the event hotel the other is the track hotel in Lancaster. Are we going to switch hotels for saturday night? I though there was only 1 hotel. So what's the plan folks, I have to make reservation tomorrow.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Danio @ June 21 2002,2:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ATTENTION:
- Group leader. We need one more group leader. Each group leader will be responsible for keeping his group together and reporting in to the other group leaders. Each group leader must have a mobile phone so that he can contact, or be contacted by, the other groups if they're out of the 2-way radios' range.
- Caravan. If you'll be part of the caravan and have not confirmed it with S14.5 Mike through e-mail, please do so with the following info: name, phone number, location. [email protected]

JEFF: Please find out the address of that CalTrain/Amtrak station. Thanks.
ALAN: E-mail Mike your phone number so we can contact you later by e-mail and phone. Thanks.


The plan so far: (nothing final yet)

Meet location and time
San Jose - CalTrain/Amtrak station
6<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 AM meet, 7<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 AM depart

Destination and target arrival time
La Mirada - Holiday Inn (event hotel)
2:30 PM

Route
Highway 101

Suggested stops
1. Salinas - Northridge Mall, Macy's parking lot
2. San Luis Obispo - Big 5 past McDonald's
3. Thousand Oaks - [suggest a location]

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Rudy - Alameda?
Jason - Castro Valley
Daniel - Fremont
Joe - Milpitas
Mike - Milpitas
Koji - Sacramento
Cole - Salinas
Alan - San Francisco
Koto - San Francisco
Jeff - San Jose
TJ - San Jose
Aaron - San Mateo
Bill - San Luis Obispo
David - Santa Clara
TJ - Oregon

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[Group name]
- TJ - San Jose
- Cole - Salinas
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Alpha group
- Daniel - Fremont
- Mike - Milpitas
- David - Santa Clara
- Jason - Castro Valley
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Hotel room groups
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- <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

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I don't see anymore discussion on the time and place, so can I assume that SJ Train Station would be the meeting place and 7am is the departure time? &nbsp;Can we leave earlier than that? &nbsp;I think we should leave at 6 and meet at 5. &nbsp;Or will leaving 7 give us enough time to get to LA?

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add to list, hotel room group Jeff and Cole

I guess i'm in TJ's group so put me down for that

Thousand Oaks, next to the automall, Applebees parking lot
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Old 06-29-2002, 10:57 PM   #133
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Just wondering if anyone else is going to the autocross tomorrow. &nbsp;It's gonna be at Golden Gate fields in Albany. &nbsp;Daniel and Bob, you guys going?
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ATTENTION:
- Hotel. Remember that reservations at the Event Hotel need to be made before July 8. I suggest that a few of you volunteer to be responsible for making the hotel reservations, and mention how many people you're willing to share your room with. Then we can either let people choose their hotel groups or assign them their hotel groups.
- Traffic/Time. Please continue discussing ways to avoid traffic and arrive at the hotel on time. Where should we get off 101? By what time should we be at San Luis Obispo, Thousand Oaks? What routes should we take before/once we're in LA?
- Group leader. We need one more group leader. Each group leader will be responsible for keeping his group together and reporting in to the other group leaders. Each group leader must have a mobile phone so that he can contact, or be contacted by, the other groups if they're out of the 2-way radios' range.
- Caravan. If you'll be part of the caravan and have not confirmed it with S14.5 Mike through e-mail, please do so with the following info: name, phone number, location. [email protected]

- ALAN: Since we haven't been hearing from you and haven't received an e-mail from you, I'm taking you off the list for now.

The plan so far: (nothing final yet)

Meet location and time
San Jose - CalTrain/Amtrak station
5:00 AM meet, 6:00 AM depart

Destination and target arrival time
La Mirada - Holiday Inn (event hotel)
2:30 PM

Route
Highway 101

Suggested stops
1. Salinas - Macy's parking lot at Northridge Mall
2. San Luis Obispo - Big 5's parking lot past McDonald's
3. Thousand Oaks - Applebee's parking lot next to automall

Caravan (group leaders in bold)
Rudy - Alameda
Pat - Belmont
Jason - Castro Valley
Daniel - Fremont
Joe - Milpitas
Mike - Milpitas
Koji - Sacramento
Cole - Salinas
Koto - San Francisco
Jeff - San Jose
TJ - San Jose
Aaron - San Mateo
Bill - San Luis Obispo
David - Santa Clara
TJ - Oregon
Ken - Washington

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[Group name]
- TJ - San Jose
- Cole - Salinas
- Jeff - San Jose
- [Name]
- [Name]

Alpha group
- Daniel - Fremont
- Mike - Milpitas
- David - Santa Clara
- Jason - Castro Valley
- Koji - Sacramento
- [Name]

[Group name]
- [Leader]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]
- [Name]

Hotel room groups
- Daniel, Mike, David, ???
- Jeff, Cole, ???
- ???

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&nbsp; &nbsp;I would just like to suggest another route for us to get down there. Alex, as well as a lot of friends I know that live down in SoCal do not suggest Highway 101. While I know that you guys are planning that route, I will assume that there will be traffic on it no matter what the time. I think the best route would be for 101, to 152, then to Highway 5 so we can cruise into LA avoiding traffic on 101.
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&nbsp; &nbsp;Your suggestion of a meet is a good idea so that things can be straigtened out and agreed upon. While not all of us will be able to make it (especially those in the Northwest) I hope that the NorCal group can finally make a decision about everything. If we wait too long, we might end up sleeping in our cars. Someone suggest a time/place to meet (preferably the weekends) so things get settled and this thread doesn't expand to 10+ pages! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

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ok, I'm calling tomorrow to make hotel reservations for me and cole. if 1 or 2 more people want to share a room with us then you can just pay me later. I'm going to make hotel reservations at both hotels, one for each night, so I suggest if you're going to make hotel reservations do it now.

Who's selling helmets? the Bell M2's?

P.S. We're taking 101 to pick up people along the way, not for petty traffic reasons &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;again if people want to take 5 down go ahead and form a group. I'm taking 101 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>



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me and daniel is going to say this again in the nicest way possible. we are taking hwy 101 to meet/ pick up other guys on the way. if we take another hwy that is not possible, we are not leaving anybody behind. lets stick with this plan because we have no another choice. like daniel stated if anyone wants to go a different route feel free to go because again we don't want to leave guys behind. unlike if we can pick up the guys on 101 and if we are done with that perhaps we will take another hwy. again sticck with the plan &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'>
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S14.5 @ June 30 2002,03:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">me and daniel is going to say this again in the nicest way possible. we are taking hwy 101 to meet/ pick up other guys on the way. if we take another hwy that is not possible, we are not leaving anybody behind. lets stick with this plan because we have no another choice. like daniel stated if anyone wants to go a different route feel free to go because again we don't want to leave guys behind. unlike if we can pick up the guys on 101 and if we are done with that perhaps we will take another hwy. again sticck with the plan <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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i just paid the registration today and im ready to go. haha. oh yeah jeff. are you still gonna get the helmets?? if so im i need a small helmet and black would be a good color.
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Cole: I dunno about the helmet thing.

Anyone on the forum selling helmets? or who was the guy that was selling the M2's?
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is there gonna be a meet before the convention??
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I'm busy these weekends until the one right before the convention but I'm free during the week usually, during the day. Send me an IM if you wanna do something? prep your car? order some car stuff.

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Agent_S13 @ June 30 2002,11:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think the best route would be for 101, to 152, then to Highway 5 so we can cruise into LA avoiding traffic on 101.

As for a group, just put me in anywhere... I'm not sure about my sleeping arrangements yet so don't worry about me. I just want to make sure I won't be driving down alone. :p</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
If we take 152 and then 5, we'll miss both Salinas and San Luis Obispo. Can you suggest a route that is past San Luis Obispo and will save us time?

Would you like to be the leader for the third group? If not, how 'bout you Jeff?
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Something else we haven't considered is having Cole and Bill meet us somewhere on 5. They might have to drive farther but that might save us time. Actually we can even meet with Cole somewhere before 152 if he just drives a bit north. That's just another possible plan which we still have plenty of time (a couple weeks) to decide on.
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I can lead a group if you like. Even if 101 is a little longer it's a much more interesting drive. and you won't get baked in the central valley. I'll fall asleep driving on 5 &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Stick with the plan &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
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Anyone make reservations at the Park Plaza Lancaster-Palmdale? I just called them and they don't know anything about the track day or anything. What's going on?
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Go read what I wrote in the main convention topic thread. &nbsp;

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