The Future Automotive Thread

[Future240]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Ugliest Car Evar

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The MR2 would like a word with you.

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Ugliest Car Evar

dunno man... the s13 vert is a bit of a rolling abortion as well lol

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Interestingly I read an interview with like the lead designer or engineer or someone like that from the NAIAS last week and apparently BMW and Toyota didn’t exactly co develop the cars together like they did with Subaru. Early on in the development process they sort of went their different ways. They barely had contact with each other. I found that interesting.

I would bet designer because the core body points look the same and the engine bays look identical. Talking the lay out of all the components not just the engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vXKbG0ieak

[feito]

Originally Posted by Future240

The MR2 would like a word with you.

wow wow wow, lets clarify, you're talking about the spyder only.
And no, even though the miata is about the perfect track car for the poor and a nice platform for tuning and modding, Im not getting into one. 'Cause, you know.... reasons...

[ronmcdon]

Originally Posted by feito

x3 might be about time to get an frs anyway. If i can find an unmolested one, that is...

I was curious to look at used brz’s myself. they arent cheap. the depreciation on miatas seem a lot higher and its hard to get as good a deal on even used nd miatas.

Im really hoping around 2020-21 there will be a good brz with more power and the torque dip issue resolved without having to go aftermarket. by then i figure ‘19 and up miatas will be cheap too if i dont care for the brz.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I was curious to look at used brz’s myself. they arent cheap. the depreciation on miatas seem a lot higher and its hard to get as good a deal on even used nd miatas.



Im really hoping around 2020-21 there will be a good brz with more power and the torque dip issue resolved without having to go aftermarket. by then i figure ‘19 and up miatas will be cheap too if i dont care for the brz.

I don't forsee a 2nd Gen 86.

This is how the car should have come.




Toyota should have partnered with Honda. Honda could made a vert as the new S2k.

[exitspeed]

Yeah I really do think used FRZ/BRZ/86s are going to be the 240’s in 2030.

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

surprised nobodys mentioned the GT500.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...s-price-specs/

love the exterior design sans the stripes. only cons I can think of is lack of manual and likely ripoff ADM’s on top of whats likely to be something north of $70k. wouldnt surprise me if they went for 100k with markups.

I cant wait to see how it compares to the grand sport & zl1 1le (both with no adm if not doscounts).

The "base" GT500 looks sleeker and better IMO. Too bad they didn't have it on the showroom floor, instead it's held up in a trailer box...



Vid with some more angles: https://youtu.be/NYAPLsfRZGU?t=853

[LoneStarSilvia]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yeah I really do think used FRZ/BRZ/86s are going to be the 240’s on 2030.

Easily. Genesis' are already on track for that too, they're like the new SRT-4, every douche nugget has one with blacked out tail lights.

[feito]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yeah I really do think used FRZ/BRZ/86s are going to be the 240’s on 2030.

Exactly. They'll all be missiles as most 240s are today.
The genesis too, as someone else said. Their destiny's been written, and I wouldn't be surprised if they go even faster than the 240...
about the frs, even though I would love to swap its engine, Im still conservative enough to where I like to keep it in the family, so, it would have to be another toyota engine, wait, or subaru, or something like that... A beams perhaps?
Lately I also kinda wish that ass was a bit sleeker. Less curvy.

[exitspeed]

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/01/...rumor-refuted/

This is good news. There was a report that the next gen brz and 86 was dead but both Toyota and Subaru are refuting that.

Also, a Supra TRD concept is debuting in Japan soon. With a big wing. Unfortunately still without a manual option though.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/01/...rumor-refuted/



This is good news. There was a report that the next gen brz and 86 was dead but both Toyota and Subaru are refuting that.



Also, a Supra TRD concept is debuting in Japan soon. With a big wing. Unfortunately still without a manual option though.

Considering the garbage 2019 Update, it might as well be dead.

[ronmcdon]

if the new brz is good, fantastic.
if not, not surprising and I’m okay with that because of the miata.

speaking of which I dont have high hopes for the wrx or sti either. 20 years from now those cars may not be too much different other than higher price.

[Corbic]

More JDM then the new Supra.

[ronmcdon]

I like the 30th anniversay ed Miata. upgrades are just cosmetic with rays wheels and orange paint but I do love how it looks and how theres not much of a premium. of course, its also sold out but there is a waitlist.

https://jalopnik.com/the-mazda-miata...ran-1832433410
https://www.mazdausa.com/30th-anniversary

[kingkilburn]

Wild speculation time.

The FRS doesn't have a turbo, and the BRZ doesn't have a proper STi because the new Supra is yeeeeeeaaaaars behind schedule and the same size vehicle.

Now that it's out Subaru needs to go nuts with the BRZ out of spite

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by Corbic

More JDM then the new Supra.

Hard to argue against that.

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

I like the 30th anniversay ed Miata. upgrades are just cosmetic with rays wheels and orange paint but I do love how it looks and how theres not much of a premium. of course, its also sold out but there is a waitlist.

https://jalopnik.com/the-mazda-miata...ran-1832433410
https://www.mazdausa.com/30th-anniversary

Yeah that orange is juicy!

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Wild speculation time.

The FRS doesn't have a turbo, and the BRZ doesn't have a proper STi because the new Supra is yeeeeeeaaaaars behind schedule and the same size vehicle.

Now that it's out Subaru needs to go nuts with the BRZ out of spite

Never going to happen. It’ll be interesting to see where they go with the next gen though.


Walked into the Volvo dealer to order a V60 R. They told me it’s going to take 6 months to order. They’ll basically take my XC40 back because the demand is still so high. Thinking it over. Came to $57k. Sorry Toyota, whish you would have offered a stick in that Supra.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Hard to argue against that.







Yeah that orange is juicy!







Never going to happen. It’ll be interesting to see where they go with the next gen though.





Walked into the Volvo dealer to order a V60 R. They told me it’s going to take 6 months to order. They’ll basically take my XC40 back because the demand is still so high. Thinking it over. Came to $57k. Sorry Toyota, whish you would have offered a stick in that Supra.

Yup.

Same douchebag that nerfed thr FRZ86 is the same douchebag that thinks the Supra is perfect with an 8spd Automatic.

BMW has a 6spd and a 7spd DCCT in their parts bin too. Uhdurpa derpa derpa derpa...

Everyone is talking about future Supra versions and releases....

Hmmmm didn't we spend years speculating on TRD, STI, Turbo, 2.5, 3.0R and 3.6R versions of the FRZ86 twins and... Nothing!

[LoneStarSilvia]

First line of TRD concept parts have been shown. Just body stuff for now.

http://www.trdparts.jp/supra/perform...y-O5KezcESm-0I

[exitspeed]

I still like the majority of the car. The TRD stuff is nice.

[BOROSUN]

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

Yeah you can import those now. Sucks they’re fwd though.

[Corbic]

Mmmmm let the sweat sweat disappointment begin.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/11/...-line-concept/

[exitspeed]

Yeah I read all that yesterday. Sucks its all cosmetic and they didn't actually test the aero benefits. Seems like they phoned it in.

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Seems like they phoned it in.

the car? the aero? or both? lol

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

the car? the aero? or both? lol

Yes, yes and yes.

[cdlong]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yeah I read all that yesterday. Sucks its all cosmetic and they didn't actually test the aero benefits. Seems like they phoned it in.

Regardless, all the enhanced aero parts...were developed in the wind tunnel to produce tangible gain is downforce and stability

[Corbic]

Off to a rocky start if tuners prefer to get attention by pulling thr stock motor instead of trying to take thr factory one to thr limit for bragging rights.

Reminds me of the Z33 when it first launched.



Guys never bought into the VQ and eventually gave up. VR38 is practically a VQ, but guys have ton of interest (and $) invested into it to make those dazzling 2k whp numbers.

[exitspeed]

I’m still digging it.

The 2JZ swap was just inevitable. I think it’s just the initial hype that that kinda swap will bring.

Jalopnik really thought about the manual swap

https://jalopnik.com/what-it-would-t...-ma-1832173633

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I’m still digging it.



The 2JZ swap was just inevitable. I think it’s just the initial hype that that kinda swap will bring.



Jalopnik really thought about the manual swap



https://jalopnik.com/what-it-would-t...-ma-1832173633

Prolly just stole it off a forum.