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scottie · 04-01-2012, 11:45 AM

Looks like we have a solid successor to the 240sx chassis in 10 years when they come down on price.

2012 MAX ORIDO D1GP NEW MACHINE TOYOTA V8 86 SHAKEDOWN - YouTube

Yes Please!!!

Zilmatic · 04-01-2012, 11:49 AM

Not really a successor just cause its a entry level JDM RWD car...

HyperTek · 04-01-2012, 11:52 AM

240sx successor?? did you forget the ae86 lol

Nismo11 · 07-28-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

240sx successor?? did you forget the ae86 lol

Well said.

scottie · 04-01-2012, 12:10 PM

Well Toyota / Subaru chassis. I wish Nissan would answer the call.

TheWolf · 04-01-2012, 01:06 PM

wow.. another v8 high HP drift machine based on an anemic factory car..

what's next, a v8 powered RWD fiat 500?

MadScientist · 04-01-2012, 02:20 PM

I feel sorry for this car already, its had its heard ripped out, given a fat ass, and now the Devil of all Drifters is going to tear it a new asshole and smash its body into every bit of concrete it comes near... This is how we feel about your car Subaru!
Oh and the EVO is still better... naner naner...

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Originally Posted by TheWolf

what's next, a v8 powered RWD fiat 500?

Or a GTR powered Juke... yeah!!! Nissan does kick ass!!

stylo1 · 04-03-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thewolf

wow.. Another v8 high hp drift machine based on an anemic factory car..

What's next, a v8 powered rwd fiat 500?

i agree 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!

One_love_silvia · 04-04-2012, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matej

Who cares how the Z drives if I cannot see where I am going through the claustrophobic prison-sized windows.
Not only that, but I find the Z33 and Z34 to be quite repulsive in the looks department. Here is to hoping this will be a better decade for automotive styling, as the 00's brought about a terrible slump in my opinion. Although my hopes are not high.

lol this so much. the blind spots in z33s are literally blind spots. u can almost not even see out of them.

KiLLeR2001 · 04-01-2012, 01:31 PM

Nissan will revive the Silvia if the BRZ/FR-S does well. I can almost guarentee it. I've been telling all my friends who own Subarus / Toyotas to trade in their current car for one when they release...

Zilmatic · 04-01-2012, 01:33 PM

^ Possibly if the economy and market for these kinda cars get better.... hopefully they wont fuck it up like what mazda did with the rx-8

Corbic · 04-01-2012, 02:14 PM

Why does everyone go Gaga over the BRZ and not the FRS? Subaru has done well their their marketing.

A true "240sx" successor would be a car that sells extremely well (in large volumes) but then a few years latter prices drop to the floor. I don't see the FRZ selling in great volumes or even sustaining multiple generations (I hope they do however).

The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33.

FRZ is $25k, while its a great car, is it $15k greater than my Z? Is it worth $500 a month to me? Not really, and most 240sx owners are bigger broke asses then even me.

simmode1 · 04-01-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33.

FRZ is $25k, while its a great car, is it $15k greater than my Z? Is it worth $500 a month to me? Not really, and most 240sx owners are bigger broke asses then even me.

This. All of it. It's like Nissan realized most of us would just rip out the backseats anyway & saved us the trouble. Oh, you still want backseats? G35 Coupe. Oh, you're getting more mature but still wanna get your hoon on? G35 Sedan 6mt. Their performance specs are all reasonably enough close enough to make me happy.

At this point, I couldn't care less about a 240sx successor. Now, a successor to the Silvia? That's a different story. The Genesis is the closest right now. It would be great if it lost a lot of weight when the next gen comes out. I might consider straying when the 2013+ Genesis coupe 2.0T gets cheaper.

Until the new FR-S/BRZ is offered with some factory boost , it's not even on my bang for your buck radar. And no, I do not want a TRD supercharger...

WanganRunner · 04-02-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33.

^^
This is absolutely true, I'm looking for one myself right now.

Fred Allen Burge · 04-03-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33.

True, get with this program.

raz0rbladez909 · 04-03-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge

True, get with this program.

Don't inform them, then the z's will get turned into giant piles of shit moreso than is already happening at a shitty rate

tx240ss · 08-30-2012, 02:00 PM

as for pricing...stopped in at a Houston dealer today to look at the frs... HOLY STICKER SHOCK, BATMAN!!! The showroom model was $33800.. fully loaded with go fast items like Navigation and fake carbon fiber.. a $400 rear spoiler was added for effect and $1800 for some shitty wheels and tires... I don't freakin think so.... who wants all this flash and no go... a stock wrx or mustang v6 will kick it's butt... even the genesis coupe has 74 more hp for less money... if they don't get the price down, only trust fund babies will be buying these....

MWH_Photo · 08-30-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tx240ss

as for pricing...stopped in at a Houston dealer today to look at the frs... HOLY STICKER SHOCK, BATMAN!!! The showroom model was $33800.. fully loaded with go fast items like Navigation and fake carbon fiber.. a $400 rear spoiler was added for effect and $1800 for some shitty wheels and tires... I don't freakin think so.... who wants all this flash and no go... a stock wrx or mustang v6 will kick it's butt... even the genesis coupe has 74 more hp for less money... if they don't get the price down, only trust fund babies will be buying these....

Most people aren't buying them from dealers who put all that useless bullshit on it.

There's a Civic SI (non-HFP, non-navi) a local Honda dealer marked at 33K because they put low-jack on, tinted the windows, added disgusting wheels, and 7K worth of "Dealer markup." It's been there well over 5 months..

Just because it's marked that high doesn't mean people actually buy it. I was looking at a red 6-speed FRS at a local dealer and could have walked out of there paying $24k before TT&L with the recent grad rebate. That's not a bad price for what it is.

raz0rbladez909 · 08-30-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MWH_Photo

Most people aren't buying them from dealers who put all that useless bullshit on it.

There's a Civic SI (non-HFP, non-navi) a local Honda dealer marked at 33K because they put low-jack on, tinted the windows, added disgusting wheels, and 7K worth of "Dealer markup." It's been there well over 5 months..

Just because it's marked that high doesn't mean people actually buy it. I was looking at a red 6-speed FRS at a local dealer and could have walked out of there paying $24k before TT&L with the recent grad rebate. That's not a bad price for what it is.

EXACTLY. If people are dumb enough to pay a $5k markup for nothing I seriously don't feel sorry for them at all.

markfitz14 · 09-18-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Why does everyone go Gaga over the BRZ and not the FRS? Subaru has done well their their marketing.

A true "240sx" successor would be a car that sells extremely well (in large volumes) but then a few years latter prices drop to the floor. I don't see the FRZ selling in great volumes or even sustaining multiple generations (I hope they do however).

The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33.

FRZ is $25k, while its a great car, is it $15k greater than my Z? Is it worth $500 a month to me? Not really, and most 240sx owners are bigger broke asses then even me.

Me and this dude are thinking alike. I saw 3 Z's on just today. Having tons of new 350 being sold make them really cheaply available as a used car in the years to come.

Matej · 04-01-2012, 02:24 PM

Too bad it is ugly.

ILoveMyRHS13 · 04-01-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Matej

Too bad it is ugly.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

Zilmatic · 04-01-2012, 02:35 PM

BOROSUN · 04-01-2012, 03:04 PM

I can sort of see it...Comparing technically it's very similar to the 240sx more than the z33.

ronmcdon · 04-01-2012, 03:25 PM

you know there is more to life than the 240sx.
who cares what the sucessor is, just appreciate the car for what it is.

a lot of 240 owners (on this site at least) aren't just broke, they're never happy with any new car, always have something to whine about.
It's absolutely depressing to come on here and see threads like this.

S-Nation S13 · 04-01-2012, 03:27 PM

No the stupid v8 America bullshit has hit the mother land..no! At least revive the 2j ..Its been proven..

Corbic · 04-01-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

No the stupid v8 America bullshit has hit the mother land..no! At least revive the 2j ..Its been proven..

Yes, cause V8s are not.

I'm sure that V8 weighs less and makes more power than most 2Js, all the while not suffering form turbo lag and heat issues. That is why V8s are dominating in professional drifting.

S-Nation S13 · 04-01-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Yes, cause V8s are not.

I'm sure that V8 weighs less and makes more power than most 2Js, all the while not suffering form turbo lag and heat issues. That is why V8s are dominating in professional drifting.

Reason why their domination is bc everyone's using them...popularity in numbers thats all...

Corbic · 04-01-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Nation S13

Reason why their domination is bc everyone's using them...popularity in numbers thats all...

Things are popular for a reason. V8s are popular because they are inexpensive, compact, simple and make shit tons of power. They also make that power right off idle, meaning when you lift off the gas and hit the throttle again there is no turbo lag. This is crucial when trying to do tandems and keep a perfect line.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

codyace · 04-01-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Things are popular for a reason. V8s are popular because they are inexpensive, compact, simple and make shit tons of power. They also make that power right off idle, meaning when you lift off the gas and hit the throttle again there is no turbo lag. This is crucial when trying to do tandems and keep a perfect line.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Pushrods, Apple Pie, and Brunettes.

What else do ya need in life.

Ok, maybe Monster Trucks.

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scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Subaru BRZ = 240sx Successor Looks like we have a solid successor to the 240sx chassis in 10 years when they come down on price. 2012 MAX ORIDO D1GP NEW MACHINE TOYOTA V8 86 SHAKEDOWN - YouTube Yes Please!!!

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Zilmatic Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: bc Age: 32 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Not really a successor just cause its a entry level JDM RWD car...

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scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Well Toyota / Subaru chassis. I wish Nissan would answer the call.

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Zilmatic Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: bc Age: 32 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ Possibly if the economy and market for these kinda cars get better.... hopefully they wont fuck it up like what mazda did with the rx-8

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Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 40 Posts: 8,226 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Why does everyone go Gaga over the BRZ and not the FRS? Subaru has done well their their marketing. A true "240sx" successor would be a car that sells extremely well (in large volumes) but then a few years latter prices drop to the floor. I don't see the FRZ selling in great volumes or even sustaining multiple generations (I hope they do however). The 350z is right now the "new 240sx", there are a million out there and you can get one for 10k. You'd have to spend at least 10k to get a 240sx to perform like a Z33. FRZ is $25k, while its a great car, is it $15k greater than my Z? Is it worth $500 a month to me? Not really, and most 240sx owners are bigger broke asses then even me.

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tx240ss Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 176 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	as for pricing...stopped in at a Houston dealer today to look at the frs... HOLY STICKER SHOCK, BATMAN!!! The showroom model was $33800.. fully loaded with go fast items like Navigation and fake carbon fiber.. a $400 rear spoiler was added for effect and $1800 for some shitty wheels and tires... I don't freakin think so.... who wants all this flash and no go... a stock wrx or mustang v6 will kick it's butt... even the genesis coupe has 74 more hp for less money... if they don't get the price down, only trust fund babies will be buying these....

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BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 43 Posts: 5,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can sort of see it...Comparing technically it's very similar to the 240sx more than the z33.

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	you know there is more to life than the 240sx. who cares what the sucessor is, just appreciate the car for what it is. a lot of 240 owners (on this site at least) aren't just broke, they're never happy with any new car, always have something to whine about. It's absolutely depressing to come on here and see threads like this.

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