Official old grumpy assholes of zilvia thread

[jedi03]

+1 why are there no forced induction factory options on the FRS or BRZ? they would have made a killing IMO, but devils advocate for my question is they were just trying to bring back the nostalgia of the AE86 and not make some current version of it...i think would make some awesome AWD/RWD with either WRX or STI turbo setup and some nice brembos as a factory option...

[RalliartRsX]

A turbo BRZ would take away sales from the STi/WRX.

It's all business. Different market

[drift freaq]

A Turbo BRZ might have made me think twice before buying my FiST. Of course that did not happen and I have a big smile on my face all the time. I also just got back from Octane Academy at Miller Motorsports Park mm... cough.. cough Utah Motorsports Park now.

Toyed around with trying to find another S13 but really want another S30 240z and probably would be easier to find :lol:

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Don't bother with him. Just putting his barge into "D" takes every bit of his brain functionality.

So Salty.

Originally Posted by spooled240

I'm more disappointed at the fact that the Supra doesn't come in manual. I'm sure the whole drivetrain can handle some good power.

Yup, and no DCT either. Both are options from BMW. Hard to make a "oh its not supposed to be a drag car, it's a driver's car" argument while rocking a V6 Charger's 8spd auto.

Originally Posted by jedi03

+1 why are there no forced induction factory options on the FRS or BRZ? they would have made a killing IMO, but devils advocate for my question is they were just trying to bring back the nostalgia of the AE86 and not make some current version of it...i think would make some awesome AWD/RWD with either WRX or STI turbo setup and some nice brembos as a factory option...

Arrogants and Stubbornness. Even a 2.5L would have given the car the mid-range grunt it desperately needed.

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

A turbo BRZ would take away sales from the STi/WRX.

It's all business. Different market

Doubtful.

It would have stolen sales from Camaro, Mustang and Miata. It's a drifto car, not a rally car. Sort of like how the Focus RS doesn't steal sales from a Mustang GT.

Originally Posted by drift freaq

A Turbo BRZ might have made me think twice before buying my FiST. Of course that did not happen and I have a big smile on my face all the time. I also just got back from Octane Academy at Miller Motorsports Park mm... cough.. cough Utah Motorsports Park now.

Toyed around with trying to find another S13 but really want another S30 240z and probably would be easier to find [emoji38]

Yeah, the idea of dumping thousands into a brand new car just becomes stupid as you move along the hobby. Nothing like just turn key, trouble free fun.

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic, you right you right.

Just read an interview with some big shot from Scooby to confirm. I think he used the term "drag car" lol!

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

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Toyed around with trying to find another S13 but really want another S30 240z and probably would be easier to find [emoji38]

Some nice ones on BAT

[RalliartRsX]

BAT has some of the most bizarre sale prices

Tye E46 M3 that sold for 90k that cred is relegated to a few choice parts, questionable reason for interior swap and no pedigree apart from Instagram likes is a perfect example

[SupaDoopa]

Yet some people swear one silly sale on BaT dictates the market. Good luck.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Yet some people swear one silly sale on BaT dictates the market. Good luck.

That's as bad as going by Barret Jackson or eBay.


All it takes to drive prices up is two buyers at thr exact same time wanting the exact same car. Looking at BAT, looks like air-cooled 911 prices have... Cooled off.

[SupaDoopa]

Some moron here tried to say BaT/BJ/eBay sets the market value. I nearly shit myself. That shit is more inconsistent than anything. If it was the same number across the board, maybe. But one fucking idiot willing to pay stupid money for something 'that one time' doesn't make your piece of shit rot box worth any more.

[spooled240]

BaT is all over the place, especially with Japanese cars.

I'm still kicking myself over this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-39/

This is probably worth at least 25k right now.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by spooled240

BaT is all over the place, especially with Japanese cars.



I'm still kicking myself over this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-39/



This is probably worth at least 25k right now.

That got stolen.

American cars are the same way.

[SupaDoopa]

Originally Posted by spooled240

BaT is all over the place, especially with Japanese cars.

I'm still kicking myself over this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-39/

This is probably worth at least 25k right now.

Fucked up interior bits, faded paint, parts of unknown manufacturers, already had parts fucked with/removed? Imported FD's sell for under the 25K mark with modifications. I haven't been on RX7Club in a while since I sold my FD's but I'm sure there are a slew of better examples for less money there.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Fucked up interior bits, faded paint, parts of unknown manufacturers, already had parts fucked with/removed? Imported FD's sell for under the 25K mark with modifications. I haven't been on RX7Club in a while since I sold my FD's but I'm sure there are a slew of better examples for less money there.

CYM R1's are very rare. That car is 1 out of 350 and in pristine condition would be $40k, like this one: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-41/

$17k for a car that is complete, running and driving with reversible modifications is a steal.

Imported FD's will always be cheaper since they are RHD, not 50 state legal and nothing new to the US.

[SupaDoopa]

Call me silly but I'd just prefer something else. Not knocking the market for that unicorn of a car but I'd be much happier with this personally.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...500-a-1136707/

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Call me silly but I'd just prefer something else. Not knocking the market for that unicorn of a car but I'd be much happier with this personally.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...500-a-1136707/

I love FD's but anything over 30k is approaching 997 Carrera S territory for me

[jumpman2334]

i think BaT pricing is all over the place because you have people on there who are looking for something very specific. lets also keep in mind that even though there are two 93 CYM R1 FDs linked on this page, they are vastly different.

for some buyers, its not just the chassis itself they are after, they may be after a specific variation of that chassis. there could be one simple item that dictates if someone spends 18k or 25k. hell, that one FD that has rotas on it, im sure that was a huge turn off for some potential buyers (among other things).

case in point, spooled thinks its a steal at 17k while supa would rather have something else.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by jumpman2334

i think BaT pricing is all over the place because you have people on there who are looking for something very specific. lets also keep in mind that even though there are two 93 CYM R1 FDs linked on this page, they are vastly different.

for some buyers, its not just the chassis itself they are after, they may be after a specific variation of that chassis. there could be one simple item that dictates if someone spends 18k or 25k. hell, that one FD that has rotas on it, im sure that was a huge turn off for some potential buyers (among other things).

case in point, spooled thinks its a steal at 17k while supa would rather have something else.

I'm sure the yellow e-brake handle was one of those "other things" lol

The demo on BaT is older guys with money with a keen eye for untouched cars. I would have definitely changed some things on that yellow FD, but I know it has potential.

[EnemyS15]

Damn, just got back on here to sell my rb30, after a 2 yr or so hiatus. Glad to see some of the OG's still around. Seems like nothing has changed! Just how I left and liked it! haha

[SupaDoopa]

Anything has potential if you're willing to invest your time and your money.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I'm going to sell my e30 on BaT. It's the only venue where I can get top dollar.

Same with my Range Rover Classic. If I ever finish the damn thing.

Why is the FR-S/BRZ being mentioned? Drive a good E36 M3, then disappoint yourself by driving an FT86 chassis.

Turn-key, trouble-free fun is boring. If a factory makes something that ticks all your boxes, great... but they haven't made anything that I like stock, yet.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Oh hey look, a double post.

At work, it won't let me. At home, it will. Sweet.

[dizzariot]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Turn-key, trouble-free fun is boring. If a factory makes something that ticks all your boxes, great... but they haven't made anything that I like stock, yet.

...isn't that why people get Porsches? I'm not gonna lie, the desire to sell all my cars and have one $40-$50k car that needs nothing but some wheels seems pretty alluring. My Spec R is fine for now, but I'd be lying if I said I don't sometimes dream of cashing out, selling all my 'treasures' and logging in just to cause trouble.


I think I already do that last part, but I still sell things here too lol.

...do you ever just look at all your accumulated parts and compare the dollars invested to the current going rate? I do a good job of only buying things I actually want, but I end up not using them in an effort to preserve them..for what, I don't really know.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by dizzariot

...isn't that why people get Porsches? I'm not gonna lie, the desire to sell all my cars and have one $40-$50k car that needs nothing but some wheels seems pretty alluring. My Spec R is fine for now, but I'd be lying if I said I don't sometimes dream of cashing out, selling all my 'treasures' and logging in just to cause trouble .

As you "grow up" life changes. It's no longer hanging out with buddies in the garage and going to meets. Project cars always require three things, Money, Time and Motivation.

As life evolves, all three become harder to pull together at one time.

[SupaDoopa]

He said he wanted to cash out and get something nice - not a piece of shit lower end model boat anchor. Fucking thing is over two ton. Imagine some dude with jean coveralls, a straw hat and a fat dip packed against the gum pull on you in his junkyard turbo LS S-chassis on the track. He probably paid way the fuck less, had way the fuck more fun and people don't ridicule him for posting pictures of his domestic 'drag' car on an internet forum for Japanese drift cars because he didn't nut up and pay a little more for the car that was FAR more superior in the Hellcat and/or Demon [but the Demon is much less practical so I don't judge Hellcat owners for not taking that step].

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

He said he wanted to cash out and get something nice - not a piece of shit lower end model boat anchor. Fucking thing is over two ton. Imagine some dude with jean coveralls, a straw hat and a fat dip packed against the gum pull on you in his junkyard turbo LS S-chassis on the track. He probably paid way the fuck less, had way the fuck more fun and people don't ridicule him for posting pictures of his domestic 'drag' car on an internet forum for Japanese drift cars because he didn't nut up and pay a little more for the car that was FAR more superior in the Hellcat and/or Demon [but the Demon is much less practical so I don't judge Hellcat owners for not taking that step].

Dude, your boyfriend is not going to stop. You need to just end the relationship and move on. It's not your fault, you deserve better.



Also, post up your fucking car already. I've called you out on that three times this year and you never do. I wonder why that is?

[FaLKoN240]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Dude, your boyfriend is not going to stop. You need to just end the relationship and move on. It's not your fault, you deserve better.



Also, post up your fucking car already. I've called you put on that three times this year and no never do. I wonder why that is?

As annoying as both of you are, at least you admit you have a car that doesn't belong here.

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by dizzariot

I'm not gonna lie, the desire to sell all my cars and have one $40-$50k car that needs nothing but some wheels seems pretty alluring.

I think about this all the time. I bought my IS300 to have a boosted 2JZ, but I just don't think I have the energy for another project. I may be selling it soon for something fast out of the box.

Riddle me this...what's a car that has:
-4 doors
-luxurious/comfortable
-decent mpg (low 20's street/high 20's hwy)
-350+hp
-CA legal (no imports, must pass smog)
-reliable and cheap to maintain/fix
-under 3500lbs
-RWD or AWD
-manual transmission
-$15,000 - $25,000
-somewhat newer (2006+)

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by spooled240

I think about this all the time. I bought my IS300 to have a boosted 2JZ, but I just don't think I have the energy for another project. I may be selling it soon for something fast out of the box.



Riddle me this...what's a car that has:

-4 doors

-luxurious/comfortable

-decent mpg (low 20's street/high 20's hwy)

-350+hp

-CA legal (no imports, must pass smog)

-reliable and cheap to maintain/fix

-under 3500lbs

-RWD or AWD

-manual transmission

-$15,000 - $25,000

-somewhat newer (2006+)

What's that old story of Fast, Cheap, Reliable... Pick two.


The manual and the weight really kill any solid options. You can manual swap a Charger, but you are looking at 4,200lbs.

I'm sure CTS-Vs are all 4k pounds. I wouldn't want to touch a used V8 M3. Rod Bearing replacement is normal maintenance at 65k miles.

G8 is going to be a premium with 6spd and is 4k lbs.

Lexus is all Automatic. IS-F is 3,800lbs

C63 is Automatic and 3,700lbs

Stinger? G70?? Both to expensive/new and I belive auto only.

I guess you are stuck with a WRX.

[Corbic]

Boom, ATS



Not a bad looking car, damn cheap and way more reliable then Zer Germans.

I bet that 4-banger wakes up with some simple Cali-stealth mods.