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Old 03-26-2002, 12:00 AM   #1
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Ok guys, I set this up.  I was going to set this up through a local performance shop, but then Ian from Lost Projects and I got to talking, and gave me a better deal than my local shop could.  Here's the deal:

He could give us 15% off of the regular price of any of Tein's models.  It's great because you can pick and choose whatever model you want (HA, Type Flex, HE, etc.), instead of all of us getting the same coilovers.  I think that's an amazing deal.  For those worried about the rust problems of them (which I addressed in the main forum) the Type Flex fixes this problem, and unless auto-xing or track racing, should be wonderful all around street performers (so says my local shop, he has them on his S2000).
Anyways, I would like this GB to happen about the same time as the engine GB, but if enough people want to do the GB for both things at the same time, but do not think that they can come up w/ enough cash for both, then give me a date and we can work that out instead (as Ian and I did not talk about what date this would take place).
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Old 03-26-2002, 11:23 AM   #2
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I would like to do this group buy 1st and the front clip towards the end of the summer. Kinda like a winter project. But mainly since this is a goup buy I will fallow all the other sheep and do what they do. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>
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how much would the type HE run for with the discount???
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how much would the type HE run for with the discount??? s13 model!
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Can I get prices for the Type-Flex coilovers? thanks.
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Old 03-26-2002, 12:56 PM   #6
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Yeah, I'll be sure to get the pricing quotes on all of the major models (Type Flex, HA, and HE) for both S14 and S13 models, I'll post them up here ASAP.
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Here are the MSRP for the TEIN products.

S13
HA-1150
HE-1360
RA-1840
RE-2200
RS-2610
Flex-1560

S14
HA-1150
HE-1380
RA-1860
RE-2180
RS-2580
Flex-1560

Pillowball Tension Rods
S13-220
S14-220

Again, the prices listed are the MSRP prices. &nbsp;For anyone interested, please take off 15% and that will be the price, not including shipping. &nbsp;We are able to take credit cards, but will cost 2.5 percent more.

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Old 03-26-2002, 02:45 PM   #8
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i hate shops that charge the extra fee for using a credit card. &nbsp;its a cost of doing business.
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Old 03-26-2002, 02:56 PM   #9
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erm, what's the use of type flex if you don't have EDFC? Is Lost Projects going to be able to get ahold of EDFC if any want/are interested in it? &nbsp;
Seeing as type HTs aren't listed, I assume they're not included in this GB. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;not that I'd get/use them, just wondering. heh.
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HT's aren't made by Tein USA for 240sx's. &nbsp;For anyone that doesn't want to do the math, here are the totals:

S13
HA - 977.50
HE - 1156
RA - 1564
RE - 1870
RS - 2218.50
Flex - 1326

S14
HA - 977.50
HE - 1173
RA - 1581
RE - 1853
RS - 2193
Flex - 1326

I don't see the problem with the credit card thing. &nbsp;After all, you will be giving an extra $25 to $30 to save a couple hundred...that's just my .02.
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Old 03-26-2002, 03:40 PM   #11
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As for the EDFC, the Type Flex is still 100% functional without the use of EDFC. &nbsp;The purpose of Tein's EDFC is to give the driver on-the-fly adjustability by adding a little black box to the bottom of the coilovers. &nbsp;I cannot speak for Lost Projects, but I imagine that they should be able to get their hands on the EDFC if you want them, but I do not know if they would be included in the GB or not.
I am not sure what coilovers it is compatible with though, that's something that Lost Projects or Tein themselves have to answer.
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Old 03-26-2002, 04:03 PM   #12
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What is an EDFC anyway? &nbsp;So you're saying it's some little box in addition to the coilovers that enables you to make "on the fly" adjustments? &nbsp;Is that some sort of unit that'll make it less of a pain in the ass to change your settings on the track or something? &nbsp;I'd like to have a set of coilovers that doesn't require me to take apart my stuff to adjust shit. &nbsp;That's just downright inconvenient for me because I'm lazy and there might be times where I don't carry a toolbox with me since that thing is heavy.
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Old 03-26-2002, 04:12 PM   #13
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Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Basically, the little black box is a motor that is added to the bottom of the coilovers. These are all connected to a controller, which is wired into the cockpit. With that you can adjust damping. It can remember three settings, which is convenient also.
Keep in mind though, this is not standard on the coilovers, it is a seperate piece altogether. Tein hasn't even released them yet, the release date is scheduled to be sometime in May. They should be between $300 and $400.

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Old 03-26-2002, 05:02 PM   #14
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A few things. &nbsp;I am doing this groupbuy with the intend to provide the people of this board (whom has the same interest as I do) with very competative prices on the Tein products. &nbsp;This does not mean that I will go all out and loose out on the deal. &nbsp;We are an established business, jus the same with other business, for every transaction we are charged a certain percentage. &nbsp;I am not about to give my wholesale price to people (15% is not my wholesale price, but pretty dame close to it) and having to pay for transaction fees because I am enabling people to use my credit card processing capabilities. &nbsp;

The EDFC is basically same type of equipment that's available in the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4. &nbsp;I believe it will only adjust the stiffness of the car, rather then being able to adjust heights. &nbsp;Don't take my work for it. &nbsp;They are not available yet, but I will be able to get them when they do become available. &nbsp;As of right now, I don't think this should be included in the GB, because of the availibility. &nbsp;

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We should put a deadline on this.
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Old 03-26-2002, 05:45 PM   #15
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Yeah, you're right, I guess only the damping is adjustable. &nbsp;Actually, Tein's website does say that it will be releasond on May 1st, so it does give a specific date. &nbsp;If you want to read more about the EDFC here's a link: EDFC

I personally don't really care when we have this group buy, but think that since some people seem to want the EDFC, as soon after May 1st as possible would probably work best. &nbsp;I should have my money ready by then, what about everyone else? &nbsp;What are your thoughts? &nbsp;What would be the best time frame for you?
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Old 03-26-2002, 07:06 PM   #16
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Hi all,

Newbie here needs advice/help/comments/suggestions.

I need to upgrade my suspension on 95 silvia.

I think coilovers is the way to go since i can adjust height on them as my driving areas require that in TAMPA,FL.

but i am not sure with which one to go with? what does pillow mount or mono mount on coilovers mean? which one is better to have?

Also, what else is needed besides coilovers to do SUSPENSION in general.

I know about the strut bars/sway bars too. but besides that and coilovers what else (IF ANYTHING) is needed for suspension.

WHAT other brands to consider besides Tein?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

Thanks

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Old 03-26-2002, 07:49 PM   #17
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May first is to early for me sorry. 95silvia this the group buy section not the the tech section. I recomend repost under tech section.
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Old 03-26-2002, 07:59 PM   #18
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reason i put it under the groupbuy is because i am interested in tein coilovers as well.....

just thought you guys be more helpful as its halfway decent related topic......

sorry if it offended anyone........geez
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Old 03-26-2002, 08:18 PM   #19
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Sil80, throw out a date, by all means. &nbsp;I was just trying to get the ball in motion and try to find out what would be good for everyone. &nbsp;If May 1st is too soon, what date would you prefer? &nbsp;I'm guessing you would want to do this a little before summer-time starts since you would be looking to get the engine at the end of summer.
Everyone that's interested post what date you would be interested in doing this.

95silvia, ok, yes upper pillowball mounts are almost essential for aftermarket coilovers, as it keeps the, it will basically keep the chassis from rattling apart (at least, I'm pretty sure that's what their purpose is). &nbsp;
Other things to consider would be pillowball tension rods, front and rear strut bars, and bushings. &nbsp;If I left anything out, somebody please add to it.

Tein is probably the best buy for the money because most of their models will allow not only height adjustment, but damping as well. &nbsp;On top of that, they come with the upper pillowball mounts, whereas normally you have to buy those seperately. &nbsp;Other good companies are JIC, Apex-I, HKS, and Zeal. &nbsp;
I'm going to be e-mailing Tein to see what models this includes, but a nice added bonus to Tein's is that you can buy an aftermarket motor known as the EDFC which will attatch a little box to each coilover and wire a module inside the cockpit for ability to adjust the damping without even touching the coilovers. &nbsp;That's about an extra $380, but well worth it to many of us (even though it's not out yet). &nbsp;

As always, if anyone has any questions, don't hesitate to e-mail me, or IM me.

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Most of the time, when there's a release date on a manufacture's website, I, personally, am very skeptic. &nbsp;Unless this date has been moved back a few times, I can guarentee that the release date will be some what off. &nbsp;I am in the market for a set myself, lets get something going. &nbsp;

Here's a curve ball.....besides Tien, anyone interested in JIC or Zeal? &nbsp;I should have......sorry...

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Just to keep everyone in the loop, I sent Tein another e-mail today asking them a couple of questions. &nbsp;One was whether or not the HE coilovers are damping adjustable, which I'm guessing it is not, and two was if the EDFC will work on all of their coilovers that are damping adjustable.
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Old 03-27-2002, 12:36 PM   #22
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Tein got back to me very fast this time, here's their answer:

Brandon,

Thank you for your interest in TEIN High Performance Suspension. &nbsp;The Type HE is full-length adjustable and has 16 levels of damping force adjustability. &nbsp;The EDFC will be compatible with the Type FLEX Damper kit. &nbsp;It may be possible to fit some of the other type of dampers we have, but that is still under testing.

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Old 03-27-2002, 08:14 PM   #23
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95silvia --- Sorry my post to you was not suppose to sound as mean as it did.. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>
I could do this anytime after may 15th.. I get paid bi-weekly so.... well .... you know it sucks getting paid bi-weekly. So anytime after that im game.
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Yeah, after May 15th sounds like a good date. &nbsp;If it has to be after, why not set it to May 20th? &nbsp;Is that good for everyone? &nbsp;If it doesn't have to be after, May 15th is just as good of a date.
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Lets do it. IIIII think... heheh. I have a lifter that is making some noise so saterday im going to try and fix it... well see how that goes.
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so are those prices up there not including the pillow mount?
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Most of those prices, if not all of them, would include the upper pillowball mount. &nbsp;I think the only one that does not include it is the Type HA coilover, all of the others, according to Tein's website, should come with them.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vancouvers14 @ Mar. 26 2002,3:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i hate shops that charge the extra fee for using a credit card. its a cost of doing business.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It is actually illegal for a business to charge extra for using a credit card in some states, such as Texas. It isn't illegal for a business to give a discount for not using credit cards, however...

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vancouvers14 @ Mar. 26 2002,3:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i hate shops that charge the extra fee for using a credit card. its a cost of doing business.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It is actually illegal for a business to charge extra for using a credit card in some states, such as Texas. It isn't illegal for a business to give a discount for not using credit cards, however...

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Ok, at this point I have to say something. &nbsp;If you guys don't have an interest in participating in this group buy, then do not post in this thread. &nbsp;Honestly, it's making me pretty mad. &nbsp;I have gone through a lot of trouble to find a good deal and bring it to everyone, and most of you seem appreciative, so thank you for that. &nbsp;Those of you that aren't, do not have to post things to slander the business that I set this up through, that will just make them less willing to deal with us in the future.

I'm sorry for getting kind of upset here, but I have spent hours and hours responding to e-mail, IM's, phone calls, etc. for both this GB and the engine GB, so I'm going to take it a little personally when people talk shit.
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