Dumb girl question re: 1989 240SX - Page 2 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

nrmskate · 09-26-2008, 09:01 PM

Your best routes would be to either :

A. Have someone check out how bad you damaged the engine, if at all. (Then, replace the headgasket)

B. If thats not possible, and its worse than we think, KA24E motors arnt to hard to come buy, and are fairly cheap, I picked one up with 86K miles on it for 500$. (shipped)

C. Go balls out and spend the extra cash either goign CA18DET, KA24E-T, SR, and so on.

s13 @ fullboost · 09-26-2008, 09:01 PM

you will need the ECU for a 93 DOHC and power steering lines for the swap. Your gauge cluster can still be used but its easy to just swap in a DOHC one. Other than that it is pretty much a straight forward simple swap remember to keep us posted =]

Vision Garage · 09-26-2008, 09:02 PM

TURBO or bust! And there is nothign wrong with old ladies and fixed up cars!

s13 @ fullboost · 09-26-2008, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nrmskate

Your best routes would be to either :
C. Go balls out and spend the extra cash either going CA18DET, KA24E-T, SR, and so on.

CA18DET is your best bet KA24E-T will most likely not be reliable enough for you. SR and so on gets pricey choose wisely

nrmskate · 09-26-2008, 09:06 PM

Hey, some old ladies (No offense, im just goign by what you stated ) can make a lot of money.

lol :-P

Vision Garage · 09-26-2008, 09:07 PM

SAY NO TO CAs!!!!! NO SUPPORT! SR that breezy!!! SRs are the new B16 so parts are plenty!

dumbblondeina240sx · 09-26-2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13SilviaGirl

How long have you had the car? If you just bought it, did you have anyone look the car over for you?

Where abouts in SD are you?

I bought the car for $425 at an auction, so no chance to have it looked at. And I'm in southeast SD.

s13 @ fullboost · 09-26-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vision Garage

SAY NO TO CAs!!!!! NO SUPPORT! SR that breezy!!! SRs are the new B16 so parts are plenty!

I agree with you, yes SR has parts everywhere but on her budget CA looks like its in her best interest if she plans on turbo. You have to remember she is a zilvia member so if she needs any parts for a CA all she must do is ask I know we have plenty of members who will help her out =] Including Vision Garage because you have already helped me

xplicit240 · 09-26-2008, 09:35 PM

oh boy who ever put the hose on prolly didnt bleed the system as well. that could have cause air pockets = over heat.

Z_Spool · 09-26-2008, 09:43 PM

The thing about swapping in a new motor is in CA to register your vehicle, you're supposed to have a motor that was available from the factory in that vehicle, in that year, in california. I just swapped from SOHC AT to DOHC 5spd. Pretty straight forward, but if you get a really finicky smog guy he might fail you for a non-compliant motor. (not likely though) You need the DOHC ps lines, DOHC tach, DOHC Ignition coil, DOHC ECU, and so on... I luckily had a driving donor to pull from. If you were to go with an SR20 or a CA18 you'll have a much harder time to get it to pass smog. (sometimes you'll get lucky and the smog tech wont notice) Luckily though you most likely wouldn't get pulled over for the motor being an older woman driving. (Cops tend to look for the young punks like me

) Search the forums here, and also read through NICO for answers to all of your tech questions. You should be able to get any and all of your questions answered without as much as asking another question.

**S13SilviaGirl** · 09-26-2008, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadpirate

yes..the 93 has a dual cam..basically a straight forward swap

Not as easy as you think...takes some work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vision Garage

SAY NO TO CAs!!!!! NO SUPPORT! SR that breezy!!! SRs are the new B16 so parts are plenty!

SR in SD, are you wanting her car to be impounded? She is a single mom....

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbblondeina240sx

I bought the car for $425 at an auction, so no chance to have it looked at. And I'm in southeast SD.

Ahhh....well, there are a few good guys in SD that may be able to help you out. Just go to the regional section on here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplicit240

oh boy who ever put the hose on prolly didnt bleed the system as well. that could have cause air pockets = over heat.

I would have that shop take a look at it again. If they did that work, you may be able to get them to do some work on it again under warranty...if they didnt put in or properly bleed your system.

Oh and welcome to zilvia. Also, is this your only car? Is this something that needs to be back on the road asap for you?

SlideWell · 09-26-2008, 09:48 PM

you may love a car, but its not always the best choice to keep it. often times, finding another chassis with less mechanical headaches may better choice for someone like yourself that isnt sure about their chassis code at the least. and a dohc swap is not fun and Lisa stated pretty much lol.

***S14DB*** · 09-26-2008, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlideWell

you may love a car, but its not always the best choice to keep it. often times, finding another chassis with less mechanical headaches may better choice for someone like yourself that isnt sure about their chassis code at the least. and a dohc swap is not fun and Lisa stated pretty much lol.

$425 for a shell is a deal. She'll spend less in a worst case scenario of having to swap another motor in there then buying one with a healthy motor in socal.

dumbblondeina240sx · 09-26-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brndck

yes it is possible to install a 93 motor in an 89. it will require some wiring modification, but the 93 motor is a dual cam engine which is a good upgrade from the single cam 1989 engine. (i hope i dont sound like i'm talking down to you).

Please, talk down to me. I don't know anything about the technical stuff.

I'm asking about the swap because there's a 93 going up for sale at my work, the engine runs OK but it has body damage so it'll probably sell for < $300. I was wondering if it might end up costing less to just swap the whole thing out than to go have the head gasket fixed.

SlideWell · 09-26-2008, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

$425 for a shell is a deal. She'll spend less in a worst case scenario of having to swap another motor in there then buying one with a healthy motor in socal.

yeah, she'll spend less. goes back to what Lisa asked. what are the long term goals and is this your daily etc etc. btw, i picked up this s14 for 2500 minus the wheels and a vandalized interior. good motor blah blah blah. unless its a dealer only auction, youre getting fooled, i know, my dad has been in the game for 30 years going to Adesa, Manheim auctions.

***S14DB*** · 09-26-2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbblondeina240sx

Please, talk down to me. I don't know anything about the technical stuff.

I'm asking about the swap because there's a 93 going up for sale at my work, the engine runs OK but it has body damage so it'll probably sell for < $300. I was wondering if it might end up costing less to just swap the whole thing out than to go have the head gasket fixed.

How many miles on the 93? Auto or manual?

$300 is good for a complete DOHC swap. There are some good swap guides on here as you need a few more parts then the engine. Like the PS system.

Vision Garage · 09-26-2008, 10:17 PM

Fine since LISA is being so NON SR friendly! KA swap that BREEZY! You'll have to get all the smog stuff back on there tho if you want it to be CA friendly. Yea cops in SD can be bitches but shit shes a girl with a stock car. They wont pull you over even if you had an RB.

Girl driving a stock looking car with a powerhouse as a heart! NICE!

dumbblondeina240sx · 09-26-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13SilviaGirl

Not as easy as you think...takes some work.

SR in SD, are you wanting her car to be impounded? She is a single mom....

Ahhh....well, there are a few good guys in SD that may be able to help you out. Just go to the regional section on here.

I would have that shop take a look at it again. If they did that work, you may be able to get them to do some work on it again under warranty...if they didnt put in or properly bleed your system.

Oh and welcome to zilvia. Also, is this your only car? Is this something that needs to be back on the road asap for you?

Thanks, I didn't take it into a shop though - a tow truck driver helped me. I do know he put antifreeze in the radiator because I was watching him do it.

This car was my daily driver, unfortunately. I have an old VW too and it runs well, but it's a lost cause because of too much body rust.

dumbblondeina240sx · 09-26-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vision Garage

Fine since LISA is being so NON SR friendly! KA swap that BREEZY! You'll have to get all the smog stuff back on there tho if you want it to be CA friendly. Yea cops in SD can be bitches but shit shes a girl with a stock car. They wont pull you over even if you had an RB.

Girl driving a stock looking car with a powerhouse as a heart! NICE!

If I had the extra $$ to do modifications, my car would definitely not still be stock.

JVD · 09-26-2008, 10:30 PM

The coolant system should have been bled after he put the hose back on. I'm assuming he didn't do that, and that's what caused it to overheat.

Like others said, the overheating probably caused a blown head gasket.

Fonix36 · 09-26-2008, 10:33 PM

Back to the earlier subject i think we would like some pitures of you and your car in a non sexual way. respectfully i say that. as for the swap keep it stock if you dont have much cash. And im Miguel if you have any questions feel free to pm me at anytime

SlideWell · 09-26-2008, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonix36

Back to the earlier subject i think we would like some pitures of you and your car in a non sexual way. respectfully i say that. as for the swap keep it stock if you dont have much cash. And im Miguel if you have any questions feel free to pm me at anytime

LOL WTF?!?! are you serious? whats a pic of her got to do with it? you are as the girls say, a "creepo." put the mouse back in the house kid.
a pic of the car would be good to see tho.

ESmorz · 09-26-2008, 10:51 PM

Lmao at the dumb asses asking for pics.

dumbblondeina240sx · 09-26-2008, 10:55 PM

I'll take some pics tomorrow. It's nothing unusual though, a straight stock 1989 hatchback with a 1968 driver. LOL

Cloud9 · 09-26-2008, 10:57 PM

SD is filled with 240 peeps, there has to be someone willing to go look at the car and see what it needs for sure, and maybe swap the ka24de in for cheap.

dumbblondeina240sx · 09-26-2008, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlideWell

Dumb question, I know....but is this a 240SX or a Skyline?

Cloud9 · 09-26-2008, 11:00 PM

it would be a 240sx, just the 95-96 body style aka S14

ryangreg · 09-26-2008, 11:04 PM

seriously someone help this woman out, if she is indeed a woman

s13 @ fullboost · 09-26-2008, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumbblondeina240sx

Dumb question, I know....but is this a 240SX or a Skyline?

Its ether a 95 or 96 Nissan 240sx

s13 @ fullboost · 09-26-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryangreg

seriously someone help this woman out, if she is indeed a woman

what do you think we have been doing bud? and Yes she is a woman who wouldn't she be? and what difference does it make woman or man on zilvia we are here to help each other out,

09-26-2008, 09:01 PM	#32
s13 @ fullboost Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: St.Petersburg,FL Posts: 2,549 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	you will need the ECU for a 93 DOHC and power steering lines for the swap. Your gauge cluster can still be used but its easy to just swap in a DOHC one. Other than that it is pretty much a straight forward simple swap remember to keep us posted =] __________________

09-26-2008, 09:02 PM	#33
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	TURBO or bust! And there is nothign wrong with old ladies and fixed up cars! __________________

09-26-2008, 09:07 PM	#36
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	SAY NO TO CAs!!!!! NO SUPPORT! SR that breezy!!! SRs are the new B16 so parts are plenty! __________________

09-26-2008, 09:35 PM	#39
xplicit240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Weird NJ! Age: 39 Posts: 723 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh boy who ever put the hose on prolly didnt bleed the system as well. that could have cause air pockets = over heat. __________________

09-26-2008, 10:17 PM	#47
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Fine since LISA is being so NON SR friendly! KA swap that BREEZY! You'll have to get all the smog stuff back on there tho if you want it to be CA friendly. Yea cops in SD can be bitches but shit shes a girl with a stock car. They wont pull you over even if you had an RB. Girl driving a stock looking car with a powerhouse as a heart! NICE! __________________

09-26-2008, 09:01 PM	#31
nrmskate Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: IL Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Your best routes would be to either : A. Have someone check out how bad you damaged the engine, if at all. (Then, replace the headgasket) B. If thats not possible, and its worse than we think, KA24E motors arnt to hard to come buy, and are fairly cheap, I picked one up with 86K miles on it for 500$. (shipped) C. Go balls out and spend the extra cash either goign CA18DET, KA24E-T, SR, and so on.

09-26-2008, 09:06 PM	#35
nrmskate Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: IL Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Hey, some old ladies (No offense, im just goign by what you stated ) can make a lot of money. lol :-P

09-26-2008, 09:43 PM	#40
Z_Spool Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Age: 38 Posts: 1,507 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The thing about swapping in a new motor is in CA to register your vehicle, you're supposed to have a motor that was available from the factory in that vehicle, in that year, in california. I just swapped from SOHC AT to DOHC 5spd. Pretty straight forward, but if you get a really finicky smog guy he might fail you for a non-compliant motor. (not likely though) You need the DOHC ps lines, DOHC tach, DOHC Ignition coil, DOHC ECU, and so on... I luckily had a driving donor to pull from. If you were to go with an SR20 or a CA18 you'll have a much harder time to get it to pass smog. (sometimes you'll get lucky and the smog tech wont notice) Luckily though you most likely wouldn't get pulled over for the motor being an older woman driving. (Cops tend to look for the young punks like me ) Search the forums here, and also read through NICO for answers to all of your tech questions. You should be able to get any and all of your questions answered without as much as asking another question.

09-26-2008, 09:48 PM	#42
SlideWell Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 40 Posts: 1,591 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you may love a car, but its not always the best choice to keep it. often times, finding another chassis with less mechanical headaches may better choice for someone like yourself that isnt sure about their chassis code at the least. and a dohc swap is not fun and Lisa stated pretty much lol.

09-26-2008, 10:30 PM	#50
JVD Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 35 Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The coolant system should have been bled after he put the hose back on. I'm assuming he didn't do that, and that's what caused it to overheat. Like others said, the overheating probably caused a blown head gasket.

09-26-2008, 10:33 PM	#51
Fonix36 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: southern cali Age: 34 Posts: 2,457 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Back to the earlier subject i think we would like some pitures of you and your car in a non sexual way. respectfully i say that. as for the swap keep it stock if you dont have much cash. And im Miguel if you have any questions feel free to pm me at anytime __________________ DRiFT 4 A Cure!

09-26-2008, 10:51 PM	#53
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Lmao at the dumb asses asking for pics. __________________

09-26-2008, 10:55 PM	#54
dumbblondeina240sx Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll take some pics tomorrow. It's nothing unusual though, a straight stock 1989 hatchback with a 1968 driver. LOL

09-26-2008, 10:57 PM	#55
Cloud9 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Cloud9 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	SD is filled with 240 peeps, there has to be someone willing to go look at the car and see what it needs for sure, and maybe swap the ka24de in for cheap. __________________ FOR SALE

09-26-2008, 11:00 PM	#57
Cloud9 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Cloud9 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	it would be a 240sx, just the 95-96 body style aka S14 __________________ FOR SALE

09-26-2008, 11:04 PM	#58
ryangreg Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: exeter Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	seriously someone help this woman out, if she is indeed a woman