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TheBlackHand · 01-30-2019, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

YJP and Upgarage pricing is a response to resellers overpricing shit online all day.

They recognize that they're the source of inventory for the resellers that over charge for impulse must haves for all the hype car builders of this generation.

Because they sell for 500 on YJP and you have to spend that to have some sort of inventory doesn't mean that you're justified in taking on another 30% to what you paid with shipping.

The prices are going up because the source (YJP/UPG) is trying to cut out people like resellers because they're an unnecessary evil/middle man that this world doesn't need.

Exactly. The the good news is that at some point any item will reach its market equilibrium where buyers just won’t budge any higher and sellers are forced to hold or lower their prices.

kyral · 01-30-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzariot

Here's a free lesson. Learn punctuation.

The fact that you got into a platform I also like is enough to irk me. I'd let it slide. It happens all the time.

The fact that you come here, rep shitty resellers, constantly get opinions on parts before you buy (yes-man), and generally seem to be faking the funk is what made me choose to avoid you. I've been doing a great job so far. You wouldn't even know any of this had you not come in here trying to stake your claim in this community. Maybe you should stick to IG.

You're still wrong. People that come here, post in the right place for questions, do the footwork before wanting to be spoonfed, and generally SEEK OUT ANSWERS have a good time.

It's a fucking trip how typical your thinking is to your 'generation'. You want everything to come to you. The information is HERE. It's always been here. It's searchable on Google in a lot of instances. You want me to seek everyone out and 'help'? Not gonna happen. I get PMs, Facebook messages, and IG messages all the time asking me shit. I always answer, assuming the question can't be had easier by using the magic of the internet. When I want a quick answer I ask close friends. We all do it. I just don't come on Zilvia, post in the wrong area, and then bitch when people tell me I'm stupid.

I'm not going to set up a fucking free class at the local Rec Center called Spoonfeeding 101.

You guys act like it would be well-received if the 'older heads' tried to reach out. I personally believe it would be viewed as a transgression against your individuality and freedom to express yourselves. That's what's big with the 'new guys'. It's either hype or being original...and originality in this instance is always shitty.

I can confirm that my generation is in fact lazy, stupid and incapable. (we also like to pretend we know what we are talking about when we don't know a damn thing)
I could show a lot of my friends and peers how to do something so they can do it over and over again for themselves but theyed prefer I just do it for them

I also reach out to people who don't know how and they never seem to care to actually learn

***dorkidori_s13*** · 01-30-2019, 08:41 PM

boobies... that is all

Jo_Galezo · 01-30-2019, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

boobies... that is all

Love you

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***dorkidori_s13*** · 01-30-2019, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo_Galezo

Love you

youre welcome <3 <3 <3 lol

dizzariot · 01-30-2019, 09:25 PM

^^^okay, now this thread sucks.

You're right, tuzzio.

It was going to get assassinated eventually.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 01-30-2019, 11:16 PM

hey come on now... we needed something to lighten things up a bit.

PS: blame the whiskey lol

Corbic · 01-31-2019, 07:20 AM

God damn weeboos...

tuzzio · 01-31-2019, 08:04 AM

I'd be all for a reddit porn thread. Not into the anime/hentai stuff though.

edit: speaking of porn, if for whatever reason, anybody knows some of the management at brazzers...let me know. I want them to sponsor me racing little kid dirtbikes.

dizzariot · 01-31-2019, 04:46 PM

...bringing it back tp pricing shit:

I don't give a fuck about your price margin.

If I buy wheels for $600 and sell for $1000 (at or below the 'going-rate') then that's great.

If you buy the same exact wheels for $200 and sell for $1000 (at or below the 'going-rate') then that's even better.

The point is that we asked a price that reflected current trends. I don't know why in the fuck this is so hard to understand. I don't care how much money y'all make. It's the price at the end.

It's not my intention to have the last word, but this topic is done for me. Some of you out there, Zilvia or not, will still not understand this fucking concept.

Dear Diary: Help, I'm A Grumpy Old Asshole.

Corbic · 01-31-2019, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzariot

...bringing it back tp pricing shit:

I don't give a fuck about your price margin.

If I buy wheels for $600 and sell for $1000 (at or below the 'going-rate') then that's great.

If you buy the same exact wheels for $200 and sell for $1000 (at or below the 'going-rate') then that's even better.

The point is that we asked a price that reflected current trends. I don't know why in the fuck this is so hard to understand. I don't care how much money y'all make. It's the price at the end.

It's not my intention to have the last word, but this topic is done for me. Some of you out there, Zilvia or not, will still not understand this fucking concept.

Dear Diary: Help, I'm A Grumpy Old Asshole.

But then I buy the wheels at $800 and list them for $1300 and y'all bitch.

First - we are talking 240s, where a guy asks $7k and gets $2,500 offers.

Second - you never know what the seller ultimately got for the wheels.

Thrid - if someone pays the $1,300; that is market pricing.

There has been a lot of inflation since 2005 and all this old Japanese shit is now rare. Guys in Japan already junked this crap for cheap 20 years ago and your now picking through the leftovers.

Eventually the 240's will all be gone, just like Drift Freq always warned. They will go the way of the Datsun 510. Used, abused and rotted away, but never worth the price to restore.

The cars popularity was based on its affordability, who's going to pay $20k for a restored S13 when you'll be able to get an FRS for $5k in a few years?

The locust will simply move on. 350Z is the new 240 at this moment.

mad-ass · 02-01-2019, 01:48 AM

Slightly off-topic of current subject..so do you know who Martin Shkreli is?
The shit he pulled on medication price jacking is off the charts, went from $13.50 to $750 over night, but that's the "current market price" right?

same concept on why we old fuckers are bitching about dumb fucking prices. Not that we are interested in buying the said dumb items that really does nothing at the end.

I am willing to pay top price on a item if it's in exceptional condition and I want it, and it's always been that way for me. I don't want to buy something twice and I stick with that philosophy.

I would actually have to say Z32 was built better than Z33 in terms of quality, but I would still own my S14 over any Z32/Z33 anyday. I am a sentimental old fart and I am sticking to it. the day I have to get rid of my S14 for what ever reason, I will be replacing it with Corvette so I don't have to spend money into it to make it be sports car. All the money I've spent on my car so far is to make it my own and my own little japanese corvette, but it's still not a corvette and it'll never be as good as corvette IMO(for the money)

Corbic · 02-01-2019, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mad-ass

Slightly off-topic of current subject..so do you know who Martin Shkreli is?
The shit he pulled on medication price jacking is off the charts, went from $13.50 to $750 over night, but that's the "current market price" right?

Pharmaceuticals are their own industry with all sorts of Government regulation and interference.

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Originally Posted by mad-ass

same concept on why we old fuckers are bitching about dumb fucking prices. Not that we are interested in buying the said dumb items that really does nothing at the end.

Because you are litterally going to die if you don't buy a $600 cup holder and the Government has esentially banned anyone else from making and selling cup holders?

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Originally Posted by mad-ass

I am willing to pay top price on a item if it's in exceptional condition and I want it, and it's always been that way for me. I don't want to buy something twice and I stick with that philosophy.

WTF does that have to do with flippers and $600 cups?

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Originally Posted by mad-ass

II would actually have to say Z32 was built better than Z33 in terms of quality, but I would still own my S14 over any Z32/Z33 anyday.

#welluhduh

Z32 cost a damn fortune when new. 350Z was a bargain box sports car designed to replace the lowly N/A Z32 and thr S15 in one fell swing. It was a throw back to the classic S130 240Z, a NA, stylish, inexpensive 2 Seat Sports Car.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 02-01-2019, 01:22 PM

I paid $17,500 for this:

Reason being, it actually made more sense financially for me to buy this restored RHD Silvia versus me going through with a Coupe build I already had lined up. The purchase was 100% worth it to me partly because it was actually going to cost me upwards of $35-40k to build a similar S-chassis. I bought the white Silvia, sold my gold coupe chassis and all of the parts I had set aside for it, and still turned a profit.

I'm not against a guy getting $600 for a cupholder. More power to them. I've bought and sold enough parts over the years and have always made it a point to stay in line with market pricing.

As an enthusiast who actually appreciates these damn cars, it does suck to see pricing skyrocket on the stupidest things. Fortunately for me, I collected pretty much everything I ever wanted before the market went crazy. At the same time, I won't let go of my mint brick headlights or light up window louvers on the low to "be the change".

If you're doing that well financially (enough disposable income to not give a shit), you're more than welcome to be the change. As for me, I'll just appreciate what I have, get a chuckle out of these dudes IG pages flipping "rare" trinkets (jackets, shift knobs, gauges, etc), and continue focusing on my own cars.

All I hoped for was that we as S-chassis enthusiasts (or those that remain) would just take the time to do things right. Enough with this cookie cutter bullshit.

Jo_Galezo · 02-01-2019, 01:24 PM

I followed every step of that white silvia & it was amazing. And i agree with what you’re saying especially the last part. Too many people want quick results and then get upset when something breaks or doesnt go as planned.

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***dorkidori_s13*** · 02-01-2019, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

...Enough with this cookie cutter bullshit.

2 words... 180sx kouki

just seems thats all anyone wants to do with an S13 hatch anymore. i move more S13 kouki valances, lips and skirts than any other part i make. even when my Type-RH parts look SOOOO much better, kids refuse to acknowledge them and want to do 180sx kouki and 180sx kouki only. though ive managed to convince a few guys to run my Type-RH skirts + valances with an S13 kouki front and they were SO happy they did!

spooled240 · 02-01-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

I paid $17,500 for this:

Reason being, it actually made more sense financially for me to buy this restored RHD Silvia versus me going through with a Coupe build I already had lined up. The purchase was 100% worth it to me partly because it was actually going to cost me upwards of $35-40k to build a similar S-chassis. I bought the white Silvia, sold my gold coupe chassis and all of the parts I had set aside for it, and still turned a profit.

I'm not against a guy getting $600 for a cupholder. More power to them. I've bought and sold enough parts over the years and have always made it a point to stay in line with market pricing.

As an enthusiast who actually appreciates these damn cars, it does suck to see pricing skyrocket on the stupidest things. Fortunately for me, I collected pretty much everything I ever wanted before the market went crazy. At the same time, I won't let go of my mint brick headlights or light up window louvers on the low to "be the change".

If you're doing that well financially (enough disposable income to not give a shit), you're more than welcome to be the change. As for me, I'll just appreciate what I have, get a chuckle out of these dudes IG pages flipping "rare" trinkets (jackets, shift knobs, gauges, etc), and continue focusing on my own cars.

All I hoped for was that we as S-chassis enthusiasts (or those that remain) would just take the time to do things right. Enough with this cookie cutter bullshit.

Cool car, but I feel like you're comparing apples and oranges here assuming that's an imported s13 that can't be registered in CA. I personally wouldn't touch anything imported and would rather deal with US chassis's. Its just too much of a hassle unless you are ok with an off-road only vehicle. Sure there are ways to street-legalize it, but it's expensive and the car has to be bone stock.

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

2 words... 180sx kouki

just seems thats all anyone wants to do with an S13 hatch anymore. i move more S13 kouki valances, lips and skirts than any other part i make. even when my Type-RH parts look SOOOO much better, kids refuse to acknowledge them and want to do 180sx kouki and 180sx kouki only. though ive managed to convince a few guys to run my Type-RH skirts + valances with an S13 kouki front and they were SO happy they did!

Same with the kouki s14's. I had the factory JDM aero for the longest time until everyone and their mother started doing the same shit. Had to switch it up.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 02-01-2019, 03:58 PM

Lennon, that’s just your opinion though.

To me, OEM>Aftermarket on a street car when it comes to aero. Also, an S-chassis with OEM aero will be more valuable as time goes on.

CA laws is another one of those topics I won’t really get into. Family is all that’s keeping me in CA.

dizzariot · 02-01-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

I'm not against a guy getting $600 for a cupholder. More power to them. 1. I've bought and sold enough parts over the years and have always made it a point to stay in line with market pricing.

2. At the same time, I won't let go of my mint brick headlights or light up window louvers on the low to "be the change".

If you're doing that well financially (enough disposable income to not give a shit), you're more than welcome to be the change.

3.All I hoped for was that we as S-chassis enthusiasts (or those that remain) would just take the time to do things right. Enough with this cookie cutter bullshit.

1. Yeah but that's all anyone (like me) is asking: keep the prices in line with market pricing. Don't be the cunt that raises it.

2. No one wants you to let them go for less to be the change.

3. *Posts the '180SX Type X' of Silvias: K's Aero

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

2 words... 180sx kouki

just seems thats all anyone wants to do with an S13 hatch anymore.

Please see 3. I'd prefer this influx of Japanese OEM replicas to whatever the fuck is in the DIW thread...or anything Juucso is doing lol. (Where are you Juucso...)

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Originally Posted by spooled240

I had the factory JDM aero for the longest time until everyone and their mother started doing the same shit. Had to switch it up.

....dude you had to be 'different' so bad you switched up the aero? I guess for me cars are what I like and I don't care what the other dudes are doing. Like if everyone had a Type X (most do) and a stock-bodied Silvia Q's it wouldn't motivate me to do something different. Not trying to be a smartass, but if your car is clean and done well why do you care to make it 'different' for the sake of being so?

***CrimsonRockett*** · 02-01-2019, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzariot

...dude you had to be 'different' so bad you switched up the aero? I guess for me cars are what I like and I don't care what the other dudes are doing. Like if everyone had a Type X (most do) and a stock-bodied Silvia Q's it wouldn't motivate me to do something different. Not trying to be a smartass, but if your car is clean and done well why do you care to make it 'different' for the sake of being so?

My way of being “different” is just in the attention to detail.

I see so many cars with half decent paint jobs, then get lazy on the panel fitment even while running OEM parts.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 02-01-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

Lennon, that’s just your opinion though.

To me, OEM>Aftermarket on a street car when it comes to aero. Also, an S-chassis with OEM aero will be more valuable as time goes on.

CA laws is another one of those topics I won’t really get into. Family is all that’s keeping me in CA.

OEM S13 kouki aero to me is so over played now... and honestly, ALL of the items are make are easily "street car" worthy given i dont dig the whole "aggressive" style aero than BN made so popular (again, another over done kit).

my car right now... 100% streetable aero. most that ever scrapes is my front bumper on my drive way JUST slightly pulling in at an angle

i dunno, ive been looking at 180sx kouki aero now for over 17 years and to me its so boring anymore. like the 3 big trends in 180 aero at the moment seem to be...

1) BN Sports kit
2) Rocket Bunny kit
3) 180sx Kouki kit

oh and ill add a 4th...

4) GP Sports GSonic replicas

dizzariot · 02-01-2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

My way of being “different” is just in the attention to detail.

I see so many cars with half decent paint jobs, then get lazy on the panel fitment even while running OEM parts.

Yeah I get that. I always pay more initially for a clean, stock body so I don't have to waste time on shit like that.

We've said it before here, but in this day and age having a stock-ish car maintained with Nissan parts is actually 'different' from the norm.

FAST EDIT:

...and that's totally fine. I feel like more people give me their opinion on my 'style' where I would just not say shit about theirs. One isn't better than the other if it's all done nicely. It's a preference. I know there are people out there that like to read my shit and then convolute my meaning.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 02-01-2019, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzariot

but in this day and age, having a well maintained 240sx that is one color and runs properly is actually 'different' from the norm.

fixed that for yah

everyone seems to hate on SRs now... well, ive had mine for 8 year with god knows how many miles. still runs like a top. funny how simple maintenance goes a LONG way!

Jo_Galezo · 02-01-2019, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

fixed that for yah

everyone seems to hate on SRs now... well, ive had mine for 8 year with god knows how many miles. still runs like a top. funny how simple maintenance goes a LONG way!

Yeah, something people forget. They think they can buy a car thats been drifted to death & continue beating it. And have no problems, sadly it doesnt work that way.

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Corbic · 02-01-2019, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

l an imported s13 that can't be registered in CA. I personally wouldn't touch anything imported and would rather deal with US chassis's. Its just too much of a hassle unless you are ok with an off-road only vehicle. L

ROTFLOL

Who cares about that shit. Fuck California.

I had a job offer for 175k out in San Berdino and after reading up on Cali, it was litterally like moving to a Foriegn fucking country and I'd have to give up a crap ton of legal rights. On and thr taxes and cost of living? I'm keeping more out here without the pay bump.

Corbic · 02-01-2019, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

2 words... 180sx kouki

just seems thats all anyone wants to do with an S13 hatch anymore. i move more S13 kouki valances, lips and skirts than any other part i make. even when my Type-RH parts look SOOOO much better, kids refuse to acknowledge them and want to do 180sx kouki and 180sx kouki only. though ive managed to convince a few guys to run my Type-RH skirts + valances with an S13 kouki front and they were SO happy they did!

Shut your whore mouth. TYPE-X is the definitive S-chasis. I'd take one over an S15 any day.

Corbic · 02-01-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

fixed that for yah

everyone seems to hate on SRs now... well, ive had mine for 8 year with god knows how many miles. still runs like a top. funny how simple maintenance goes a LONG way!

Had one, fucking hated it. Such a bland shity engine. It's not stupid strong and cheap like a 4g63, it doesn't make torque for days like any V8, it doesn't guzzle fuel, oil and money like a rotary and it can't Rev to the moon and back and make 600whp on stock block like a K-series.

Once you want to make over 300whp you need a forged engine and transmission conversion... So now your in V8, 2JZ or RB land with price and effort... So go big or go home.

Engines also sound like ass.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 02-01-2019, 07:58 PM

stock SR bottom end has been proven to dyno around 450whp without any issues... you start getting past 300whp in an S13 and they tend to become a little scary

***dorkidori_s13*** · 02-01-2019, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Shut your whore mouth. TYPE-X is the definitive S-chasis. I'd take one over an S15 any day.

ill take an S15 Spec-R Aero vs 180sx kouki any day...

Corbic · 02-01-2019, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

stock SR bottom end has been proven to dyno around 450whp without any issues... you start getting past 300whp in an S13 and they tend to become a little scary

But you blasted tranny guts all over the place by then.. 300whp ain't shit in a 240. Is that even in thr 12's?

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ill take an S15 Spec-R Aero vs 180sx kouki any day...

This is why we aren't friends...

01-30-2019, 08:41 PM	#543
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,487 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	boobies... that is all __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!

01-30-2019, 09:25 PM	#546
dizzariot Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 5,511 Trader Rating: (47) Feedback Score: 47 reviews	^^^okay, now this thread sucks. You're right, tuzzio. It was going to get assassinated eventually. __________________ *The mark of a true sucka: 'RARE JDM' & 'OLD LOGO NISMO'*

01-30-2019, 11:16 PM	#547
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,487 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	hey come on now... we needed something to lighten things up a bit. PS: blame the whiskey lol __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!

01-31-2019, 04:46 PM	#550
dizzariot Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 5,511 Trader Rating: (47) Feedback Score: 47 reviews	...bringing it back tp pricing shit: I don't give a fuck about your price margin. If I buy wheels for $600 and sell for $1000 (at or below the 'going-rate') then that's great. If you buy the same exact wheels for $200 and sell for $1000 (at or below the 'going-rate') then that's even better. The point is that we asked a price that reflected current trends. I don't know why in the fuck this is so hard to understand. I don't care how much money y'all make. It's the price at the end. It's not my intention to have the last word, but this topic is done for me. Some of you out there, Zilvia or not, will still not understand this fucking concept. Dear Diary: Help, I'm A Grumpy Old Asshole. __________________ *The mark of a true sucka: 'RARE JDM' & 'OLD LOGO NISMO'*

02-01-2019, 01:48 AM	#552
mad-ass Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 2,273 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Slightly off-topic of current subject..so do you know who Martin Shkreli is? The shit he pulled on medication price jacking is off the charts, went from $13.50 to $750 over night, but that's the "current market price" right? same concept on why we old fuckers are bitching about dumb fucking prices. Not that we are interested in buying the said dumb items that really does nothing at the end. I am willing to pay top price on a item if it's in exceptional condition and I want it, and it's always been that way for me. I don't want to buy something twice and I stick with that philosophy. I would actually have to say Z32 was built better than Z33 in terms of quality, but I would still own my S14 over any Z32/Z33 anyday. I am a sentimental old fart and I am sticking to it. the day I have to get rid of my S14 for what ever reason, I will be replacing it with Corvette so I don't have to spend money into it to make it be sports car. All the money I've spent on my car so far is to make it my own and my own little japanese corvette, but it's still not a corvette and it'll never be as good as corvette IMO(for the money) __________________

01-31-2019, 07:20 AM	#548
Corbic Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: US Age: 40 Posts: 8,225 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	God damn weeboos...

01-31-2019, 08:04 AM	#549
tuzzio Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,605 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'd be all for a reddit porn thread. Not into the anime/hentai stuff though. edit: speaking of porn, if for whatever reason, anybody knows some of the management at brazzers...let me know. I want them to sponsor me racing little kid dirtbikes.

02-01-2019, 01:24 PM	#555
Jo_Galezo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Manhattan Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I followed every step of that white silvia & it was amazing. And i agree with what you’re saying especially the last part. Too many people want quick results and then get upset when something breaks or doesnt go as planned. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-01-2019, 07:58 PM	#568
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 42 Posts: 7,487 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	stock SR bottom end has been proven to dyno around 450whp without any issues... you start getting past 300whp in an S13 and they tend to become a little scary __________________ Check out my IG for what I'm up to! DORKIDORI INSTAGRAM!!!