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Old 12-15-2020, 06:33 PM   #661
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You cannot scream "SOCIALISM" and then turn around and be like "Cool! The gop wants to compensate people". THAT is Socialism.......
When did I scream about socialism?

Compensating people for massive controlled inflation isn't socialism you absolute fucking idiot

the oil industry is critical to everything. Did you forget we had that conversation? YOU NEED OIL YOU FUCKING MORON.
wtf does imposing restrictions on meat production have to do with stimulus? jeeeeesus dude.

I'm not even reading the rest of that crap. You're way out of your league.
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Ok..........zmmobin wins the inanet again......

Both this and trump thread are WELL pass their sell by date.......
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Sure thing ya contrarian tryhard

Let's see some quotes on when I said any of that shit youre claiming I said.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:19 PM   #664
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This is what zombie was talking about with the emergency authorization for use. You don't know what can happen with everyone or long term effects.

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This right here.

Its amazing how many people don't understand this. Smaller/rural areas are getting hit harder.


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LA county's down to less than 100 ICU beds*, capacity's at 1% in Ventura and 0% in Riverside county. Non-COVID ICU patients (car crashes, knife fights, chainsaw accidents, fire-swallowing incidents, priapism) could see/are seeing potentially lethal wait times and diverted ambulances increase costs for uninsured patients. Nurse-to-Patient ratios are stupid right now. Every hospital is short-staffed in admin due to COVID cases.

*Using a term like "beds" is kinda misleading. An ICU may have 100 physical beds but actual care capacity (doctors, nurses, therapists, equipment) may only be 63. If you accept a patient but have no ability to care for them, whether or not they're vertical or horizontal really doesn't matter, does it? Right now, ICU nurses are running 50% higher(1:3 instead of 1:2) verging on even higher (chatter of 1:6 becoming a reality) patient loads than in normal times.

The fuck are we going to do when nurses who were planning on working another 30 years decide to nope right out of a profession that's currently being run with mandatory overtime and no available mental health care? Burnout rates were 29% in CA pre-COVID, and a third or more in NJ and PA. Job dissatisfaction was 20% in CA pre-COVID, and more than a quarter in NJ and PA. ICU nurses require additional training (like 6 months worth). We can't just up the numbers tomorrow.

Short-sighted fucks don't get this. They can't see the forest for the trees because their myopic world view and hubris don't jive with reality.

Yes, I understand that most hospitals run lean for monetary purposes. Perhaps that should be rectified through government assistance?
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"Don't think getting the vaccine means you're leaving your cage so fast, wagie. You need a second vaccine before masks and lockdowns go away *wink*. Let myself and Jacinda Ardern reassure you by injecting ourselves with these empty needles...

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"Don't think getting the vaccine means you're leaving your cage so fast, wagie. You need a second vaccine before masks and lockdowns go away *wink*. Let myself and Jacinda Ardern reassure you by injecting ourselves with these empty needles...

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see? easy. That's enough reason for you to do it."

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"Don't think getting the vaccine means you're leaving your cage so fast, wagie. You need a second vaccine before masks and lockdowns go away
Yes. It's a vaccine. It comes in two parts. The complete vaccine is a two part thing. It is a process. Not everything in life is instant gratification.
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lol sure bud. guess that's why they've still got lockdowns planned through late 2021-2022.
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mike pence got the vaccine, which means life is good for everyone else on planet earth.

nothing to see here folks. carry on
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Good thing we stopped the economy and locked down the country to save grandma. Now that the vaccine is being rolled out, lets give it to her last bc well.... white people bad.
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Good thing we stopped the economy and locked down the country to save grandma. Now that the vaccine is being rolled out, lets give it to her last bc well.... white people bad.
Where have you seen elderly white women are receiving the vaccine last?

Lockdown is about slowing the spread and the strain on hospitals and related services. Hospitals handle more than covid cases.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/h...ine-first.html

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Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks, and that they are disproportionately minorities. “Older populations are whiter, ” Dr. Schmidt said. “Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.”

Lockdown was sold as 2 weeks to 'slow the spread'. 10 months later all the literature says 'stop the spread' and Biden and gang are calling for it to keep going. Explain that, please.

Shouldn't you be out getting kids arrested for playing hockey outdoors or something?
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The article is talking about who should receive the vaccine first. Not last. If you read between the lines any harder, you'll see it says, "Trump Lost".


SIP & social distancing wasn't supported by the President. This alone made lockdown's effectiveness even more divisive.
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The article is talking about who should receive the vaccine first. Not last.
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The article is talking about who should receive the vaccine first. Not last. If you read between the lines any harder, you'll see it says, "Trump Lost".


SIP & social distancing wasn't supported by the President. This alone made lockdown's effectiveness even more divisive.
Do you think the opinion of that quote is okay?

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Do you think the opinion of that quote is okay?
The point could've been made without talking about "whites", and in general kept to talking about frontline workers.

Back to my original point, nothing is stating old white women are the last to receive the vaccine. Based on "Schmidt" they are second in line, and ultimately negates his point about society and how it is structured.
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The point could've been made without talking about "whites", and in general kept to talking about frontline workers.

Back to my original point, nothing is stating old white women are the last to receive the vaccine. Based on "Schmidt" they are second in line, and ultimately negates his point about society and how it is structured.
Yet for some reason they did.

Lol and these are the people (!zar!) trying to call me an ignorant, racist, bigot.
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The point could've been made without talking about "whites", and in general kept to talking about frontline workers.

Back to my original point, nothing is stating old white women are the last to receive the vaccine. Based on "Schmidt" they are second in line, and ultimately negates his point about society and how it is structured.
While yes, they're "second" in line, you seem to be really brushing off that line of thinking..

It feels like there's a double standard when someone from the left says someone on the right is being racist, etc, but then doesn't acknowledge bullshit like this.

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Lockdown was sold as 2 weeks to 'slow the spread'. 10 months later all the literature says 'stop the spread' and Biden and gang are calling for it to keep going. Explain that, please.
Because people keep running around spitting in their cousin's mouths, sucking on door knobs, and eating each other's asses. Because the government is too busy disobeying their own laws to provide support to their constituents. Because no one has a choice but to interact with unwashed/unmasked heathens. Because still not enough is known about covid. Because no one has had the balls to lead the fight against the pandemic.



Essential workers first makes sense. They're the ones spreading it, not the elderly who have been locked up since March. Idk why that guy threw race into the mix in that quote (didn't read the article - don't wanna sign up, so idk the exact context), but aside from that, I get his point from an economic point of view. Ethically, I'm not sure I agree, which is ironic if he's an expert in ethics haha
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Because people keep running around spitting in their cousin's mouths, sucking on door knobs, and eating each other's asses.
What does Hunter Biden have anything to do with this?

"I don't like that it was framed in terms of race, but if it's framed in some other way I'm comfortable with it"

What would you do to 'lead the fight'? Genocide white people?

A vaccine doesn't stop someone from spreading it through physical contact. It's not an invisible shield. holy shit hahaha. Why wouldn't you first give it to the people that are most susceptible to dying from COVID? Especially since you locked down and 'masked up' for grandma.
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It feels like there's a double standard when someone from the left says someone on the right is being racist, etc, but then doesn't acknowledge bullshit like this.
This is the entire Presidential thread, and generally the way MSM is nowadays.
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Because people keep running around spitting in their cousin's mouths, sucking on door knobs, and eating each other's asses. Because the government is too busy disobeying their own laws to provide support to their constituents. Because no one has a choice but to interact with unwashed/unmasked heathens. Because still not enough is known about covid. Because no one has had the balls to lead the fight against the pandemic.







Essential workers first makes sense. They're the ones spreading it, not the elderly who have been locked up since March. Idk why that guy threw race into the mix in that quote (didn't read the article - don't wanna sign up, so idk the exact context), but aside from that, I get his point from an economic point of view. Ethically, I'm not sure I agree, which is ironic if he's an expert in ethics haha
I agree with most of this, but I have to ask...

You don't eat ass?

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While yes, they're "second" in line, you seem to be really brushing off that line of thinking..

It feels like there's a double standard when someone from the left says someone on the right is being racist, etc, but then doesn't acknowledge bullshit like this.

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TBH dude's name seems white and I have no idea how he aligns politically.

His wording was trash as I alluded to. Not sure what else to say.
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What does Hunter Biden have anything to do with this?

"I don't like that it was framed in terms of race, but if it's framed in some other way I'm comfortable with it"

What would you do to 'lead the fight'? Genocide white people?

A vaccine doesn't stop someone from spreading it through physical contact. It's not an invisible shield. holy shit hahaha. Why wouldn't you first give it to the people that are most susceptible to dying from COVID? Especially since you locked down and 'masked up' for grandma.
To me what that guy said is: essential workers can?t afford to get sick (low hourly wage, shit health care if any) and we can?t afford for them to be sick either (need groceries, nurses, infrastructure repairs) whereas older people are retired and can afford to stay in their home 24/7 and if they do happen to catch corona, they can at least afford the healthcare.

I think the whole ?level the playing field? thing was in reference to the healthcare available to the two parties, not the races. (If it wasn’t, then fuck that racist douche)

If you?re looking for something racist, you?re bound to find it...

How many times in your daily life do you make physical contact with strangers?

Were I in charge, the elderly with preexisting conditions and the essential workers who interact with more than 10 clients/customers/etc per day would be at the top of the list, but there?s no infrastructure to do such things and I?m just a random guy posting on a car forum...

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This is my official statement in how to deal with covid:

You just listen to the old Pork Chop Express here now and take his advice on a dark and stormy night when the lightning's crashin' and the thunder's rollin' and the rain's coming down in sheets thick as lead. Just remember what old Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big old storm right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."
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I hope Trump vetoes this stupid 'stimulus' bill.
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How many times in your daily life do you make physical contact with strangers?
If you're a healthcare worker- I'd assume the answer would be something along the lines of 'constantly'.

How many times in your daily life do you touch door handles that other muzzle-cucks touched? I saw some Coronaphobic at the store drop a yam on the ground, lets it roll a few feet on the dirty ass floor, then she picked it up and put it back in the pile. She probably went the rest of her day wearing the same pair of subway sandwich gloves, too. You people are nuts.

His point is obviously based in race, it has nothing to do with 'looking for it'. He clearly stated it. The framing of 'who gets it first' is oozing divisiveness to begin with, anyway. There's no reason to act like the vaccine is some sort of lifeboat on the Titanic. Much less flip the line for said lifeboat into something about race non-sense.
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So what's up with that dude getting a fake vaccine shot on tv. The syringe was empty and already fully depressed. So ridiculous.
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