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Volchok · 03-04-2009, 10:06 PM

Anyone familiar with installing a full-race pro stock T25 manifold? I got everything on a when I went to put on the outlet pipe that connects to the hot pipe, it hits the runner on the manifold. I tried using the clocking adapter for the t25/t28 turbo swap, cause I bought it but didn't need it with the greddy intake I bought. But that causes it to sit on a strange angle and still doesn't really clear. The only thing I can think of is getting about a 1" think piece of billet made to allow it to sit flush but still clear the mani runner.

Just hoping someone else has run into this before, I searched and found nothing.

brian m · 03-04-2009, 10:14 PM

Hey Shaun

You have a 2871 with the stock style inlet and outlet? Like this:

And the hotpipe is hitting #1 runner?

Any Pics?

Volchok · 03-04-2009, 11:23 PM

my bad I should have been more clear, I was just posting quickly before eating dinner. I have a T28 turbo with stock inlet and outlet . here is a pic:

hitman · 03-04-2009, 11:33 PM

touge factory makes a spacer/turner guy, prolly check that out
also, your coolant line style sucks
i think you should move it somehow so it doesnt melt

Volchok · 03-04-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hitman

touge factory makes a spacer/turner guy, prolly check that out
also, your coolant line style sucks
i think you should move it somehow so it doesnt melt

i actually have a spacer this one:

doesnt give enough clearance. and the angle is wrong for the greddy outlet pipe. I am going to try with the stock one tomorrow. Was hoping i would run into someone who has had this problem.

the water line will go under the outlet pipe when attached.

kensreliableb18b · 03-04-2009, 11:57 PM

hmm, have you tried clocking the turbo a bit more? looks pretty maxed out but i'd try that. worst case scenario, you'd have to ditch the compressor outlet adapter piece and run the outlet pipe at the 45degree and mess with your hotpipe setup instead of having it point straight up and hit the runner.

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kensreliableb18b

hmm, have you tried clocking the turbo a bit more? looks pretty maxed out but i'd try that. worst case scenario, you'd have to ditch the compressor outlet adapter piece and run the outlet pipe at the 45degree and mess with your hotpipe setup instead of having it point straight up and hit the runner.

do you mean turning the turbo compressor a bit? I was worried the oil return tube wouldnt match up anymore if i did that or do that rotate independently?

kensreliableb18b · 03-05-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Volchok

do you mean turning the turbo compressor a bit? I was worried the oil return tube wouldnt match up anymore if i did that or do that rotate independently?

no, just the compressor side, independent of center--oil return position shouldn't be compensated.

drifter_for_life06 · 03-05-2009, 12:16 AM

how does that outlet even attach? i see no mounting points?

either way, seems like custom made hotpipe/outlet is going to be your next step

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by drifter_for_life06

how does that outlet even attach? i see no mounting points?

either way, seems like custom made hotpipe/outlet is going to be your next step

three bolts at the corners, and I need to be running by the 14th.

Z33dori · 03-05-2009, 12:24 AM

yea looks like you just need to reclock the turbo some.

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 12:43 AM

u do that by loosening the bolts on the compressor housing? that wont cause the drain tube to not line up anymore>?

ILoveJDM · 03-05-2009, 12:54 AM

as stated before....

there are 3 pieces to a turbo.

you can rotate any of them, spin the compressor, spin the outlet, or loosen both ends and spin the middle.

sucks for you having to take that shit off again though.

you can also try with the stock compressor outlet with the adapter plate, if that clears but is clocked wrong, (should be in the stock s14/s15 t28 position now) switch the 90 degree coupler with the 45 on the hotpipe and cut some of it bov tube. thats how they do it in japan without clocking adapters.

opponheimer · 03-05-2009, 11:30 AM

have fun boiling that coolant...... and a full race manif. dedicated to a t25??? *vomits*

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by opponheimer

have fun boiling that coolant...... and a full race manif. dedicated to a t25??? *vomits*

read much lately? or just no comprehension skills....its for a T28 and if you read any of the posts you would have seen this...

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Originally Posted by Volchok

the water line will go under the outlet pipe when attached.

very constructive post...opponheimer i can tell you have good self esteem.

ixfxi · 03-05-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Volchok

read much lately? or just no comprehension skills....its for a T28 and if you read any of the posts you would have seen this...

very constructive post...opponheimer i can tell you have good self esteem.

people are just hating because you have a badassed manifold and they have a broken down KA

hah

opponheimer · 03-05-2009, 11:42 AM

t25... t28.. both are babies

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

people are just hating because you have a badassed manifold and they have a broken down KA

hah

LOL!!!! so true so true...

I love the T28 for the simple fact that I have complete stock internals and a stock headgasket...It runs great on 1.12 bar and has allowed me to be competitive with Pro Am Drift drivers. I will go bigger in time. Its funny how so many people throw huge turbos on and have been drifting for years and here I come with a T28 and 1 year experience and blow them away!

You can see my build here:
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/240970-my-1...ml#post2662258

landins13 · 03-05-2009, 12:06 PM

clock your turbo and youll be good. it would be easist for you to pull the whole manifold, clock the turbo with the hotpipe outlet on so you can make sure your good. then reinstall

krazycaron · 03-05-2009, 12:20 PM

both are babies for what motor? an sr they are perfect for really no lag......for a full built 454 yea they are baby turbos.....on my ca18det......its actually kinda big! yea man i just put a t28 on my ca with a manifold...you have to undo the bolts (ill show you in pics) and spin the compressor a little until it doesnt hit....but you have to be careful because you still have the wastegate rod......

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by landins13

clock your turbo and youll be good. it would be easist for you to pull the whole manifold, clock the turbo with the hotpipe outlet on so you can make sure your good. then reinstall

constructive help thats what zilvia is all about! I am going to try this tonight. I should have tried to put the outlet pipe on prior to installing but it didn't occur to me that it would hit! I guess thats what happens when you do 6 hours of car work after a 10 hour work day! man real jobs suck...I wish someone would pay me to wrok on my car! LOL.

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Originally Posted by krazycaron

both are babies for what motor? an sr they are perfect for really no lag......for a full built 454 yea they are baby turbos.....on my ca18det......its actually kinda big! yea man i just put a t28 on my ca with a manifold...you have to undo the bolts (ill show you in pics) and spin the compressor a little until it doesnt hit....but you have to be careful because you still have the wastegate rod......

thats what I was concerned with, the actuator and also the intake but I will play with it.

thanks to all of you trying to be helpful~!!!!! Much appreciated.

krazycaron · 03-05-2009, 12:42 PM

you shouldnt have to move it alot....just like a half inch or so.......the intake wont really be affected......i was checkin out your build...nice cage....and since when did primm start having events? where is it at the hotel or something?

ixfxi · 03-05-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Volchok

LOL!!!! so true so true...

I love the T28 for the simple fact that I have complete stock internals and a stock headgasket...It runs great on 1.12 bar and has allowed me to be competitive with Pro Am Drift drivers. I will go bigger in time. Its funny how so many people throw huge turbos on and have been drifting for years and here I come with a T28 and 1 year experience and blow them away!

You can see my build here:
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/240970-my-1...ml#post2662258

like i said, people are full of shit. they see something they cant afford, or a girl thats too fine and all they can do is hate.

i have an s15 spec-r turbo and love it, its all about response. you gotta remember that most people have NO clue how to drive, let alone setup their car properly. people buy coilovers and dont know how to cornerweight and adjust properly. the modify their motor and have no idea how to tune it properly. take apart their lights and then water gets in them...

there's botched work everywhere because people are too stupid to research, save, and plan ahead. this is why i never buy modified cars, most people have no idea what the fuck they are doing.

i plan on picking up a full race manifold, i like their products a lot.

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by krazycaron

you shouldnt have to move it alot....just like a half inch or so.......the intake wont really be affected......i was checkin out your build...nice cage....and since when did primm start having events? where is it at the hotel or something?

Thanks, Forrest Wang from Full Race built the cage. Another reason I went with that manifold, as I also bought it from him. It is a VegasDrift organized event at Buffalo Bill's we rented the parking lot. Thats where the next VegasDrift is, it is a good venue Tommy Suell did an excellent job on the track layout. Here is a video link of my car in action with my "baby" T28 at the last event at LVMS and one from Primm, at prim i still had a T25.

Video:
Primm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su7Ys...e=channel_page
LVMS
http://vimeo.com/3376272

opponheimer · 03-05-2009, 01:07 PM

lol look at you getting all hurt for me calling your t28 small.... okay, you're right, that t28 is the best turbo in the world, you can't make good power and have quick response with any other turbo..

gt2871r and gt3076r aint got nothing on your T28!..... anything over 300hp for drifting is ludicrus!

but really if you're happy with a t28 stick with it, whatever suits you and your driving style right?

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opponheimer

lol look at you getting all hurt for me calling your t28 small.... okay, you're right, that t28 is the best turbo in the world, you can't make good power and have quick response with any other turbo..

gt2871r and gt3076r aint got nothing on your T28!..... anything over 300hp for drifting is ludicrus!

but really if you're happy with a t28 stick with it, whatever suits you and your driving style right?

I am amused far from hurt but again you fail at reading comprehension, I do want a bigger turbo, and will do so after I rebuild the engine as stated above. I am rebuilding the engine and getting a new turbo in about a year. I do one drift event a month and do my work accordingly, as to never miss an event. I should cut you a break you are form West Virgina after all... you prodably have a GT3076R on your horse and buggy

opponheimer · 03-05-2009, 02:04 PM

I only went to school in WVU, its hard for me to believe somone like you would be rebuilding an engine if you can't think to clock your turbo 10-15 degrees from the get go. Go ahead, flaunt your e-penis though, make fun of them west virginians mister insecure, over defensive thirty-three year old.

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 02:15 PM

LOL sounds like you are getting hurt I am making jokes, what else can you do when someone thread shits but laugh at it. I would never rebuild my engine myself, and I of course considered reclocking the turbo, as stated in the first post I was looking for someone who might have already expierienced this issue with the same setup, and might as well get as much insight as possible before fixing it.

ixfxi · 03-05-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opponheimer

lol look at you getting all hurt for me calling your t28 small.... okay, you're right, that t28 is the best turbo in the world, you can't make good power and have quick response with any other turbo..

gt2871r and gt3076r aint got nothing on your T28!..... anything over 300hp for drifting is ludicrus!

but really if you're happy with a t28 stick with it, whatever suits you and your driving style right?

what difference does it make?

a turbo is a turbo is a turbo, buy whatever you want.

some people like big tits, some medium, some small. me? its all good as long as they arent pancake titties.

Volchok · 03-05-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

what difference does it make?

a turbo is a turbo is a turbo, buy whatever you want.

some people like big tits, some medium, some small. me? its all good as long as they arent pancake titties.

well put LOL

again I appreciate the insightful advice and laugh at the negativity...

03-04-2009, 11:33 PM	#4
hitman Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: late 19th century prussia Age: 36 Posts: 1,057 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	touge factory makes a spacer/turner guy, prolly check that out also, your coolant line style sucks i think you should move it somehow so it doesnt melt __________________ driftparty.com

03-05-2009, 12:16 AM	#9
drifter_for_life06 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Freedom, PA Age: 35 Posts: 775 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	how does that outlet even attach? i see no mounting points? either way, seems like custom made hotpipe/outlet is going to be your next step __________________ RPS13: +.020" 2871r 264's AEM EMS http://enjukuracing.com/#_l_4s

03-05-2009, 12:24 AM	#11
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 35 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	yea looks like you just need to reclock the turbo some. __________________

03-05-2009, 11:30 AM	#14
opponheimer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bikini Atoll Posts: 1,267 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	have fun boiling that coolant...... and a full race manif. dedicated to a t25??? vomits __________________ SR20 & RB20/25/26 in s13/s14 Wiring from $125 to $200.. Best prices EVER.

03-05-2009, 11:42 AM	#17
opponheimer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bikini Atoll Posts: 1,267 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	t25... t28.. both are babies __________________ SR20 & RB20/25/26 in s13/s14 Wiring from $125 to $200.. Best prices EVER.

03-04-2009, 10:06 PM	#1
Volchok Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: las vegas Age: 48 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	full race manifold won't clear outlet pipe Anyone familiar with installing a full-race pro stock T25 manifold? I got everything on a when I went to put on the outlet pipe that connects to the hot pipe, it hits the runner on the manifold. I tried using the clocking adapter for the t25/t28 turbo swap, cause I bought it but didn't need it with the greddy intake I bought. But that causes it to sit on a strange angle and still doesn't really clear. The only thing I can think of is getting about a 1" think piece of billet made to allow it to sit flush but still clear the mani runner. Just hoping someone else has run into this before, I searched and found nothing.

03-04-2009, 11:23 PM	#3
Volchok Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: las vegas Age: 48 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	my bad I should have been more clear, I was just posting quickly before eating dinner. I have a T28 turbo with stock inlet and outlet . here is a pic:

03-04-2009, 11:57 PM	#6
kensreliableb18b Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: so cal - 626, 909, 562 and 949. 818 if i feel like running away Posts: 945 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hmm, have you tried clocking the turbo a bit more? looks pretty maxed out but i'd try that. worst case scenario, you'd have to ditch the compressor outlet adapter piece and run the outlet pipe at the 45degree and mess with your hotpipe setup instead of having it point straight up and hit the runner.

03-05-2009, 12:43 AM	#12
Volchok Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: las vegas Age: 48 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	u do that by loosening the bolts on the compressor housing? that wont cause the drain tube to not line up anymore>?

03-05-2009, 12:54 AM	#13
ILoveJDM Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SK Canada! Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	as stated before.... there are 3 pieces to a turbo. you can rotate any of them, spin the compressor, spin the outlet, or loosen both ends and spin the middle. sucks for you having to take that shit off again though. you can also try with the stock compressor outlet with the adapter plate, if that clears but is clocked wrong, (should be in the stock s14/s15 t28 position now) switch the 90 degree coupler with the 45 on the hotpipe and cut some of it bov tube. thats how they do it in japan without clocking adapters.

03-05-2009, 12:06 PM	#19
landins13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 986 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	clock your turbo and youll be good. it would be easist for you to pull the whole manifold, clock the turbo with the hotpipe outlet on so you can make sure your good. then reinstall __________________ NO HANDS IN PANTS!!

03-05-2009, 12:20 PM	#20
krazycaron Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sac, Ca Age: 35 Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	both are babies for what motor? an sr they are perfect for really no lag......for a full built 454 yea they are baby turbos.....on my ca18det......its actually kinda big! yea man i just put a t28 on my ca with a manifold...you have to undo the bolts (ill show you in pics) and spin the compressor a little until it doesnt hit....but you have to be careful because you still have the wastegate rod......

03-05-2009, 12:42 PM	#22
krazycaron Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sac, Ca Age: 35 Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you shouldnt have to move it alot....just like a half inch or so.......the intake wont really be affected......i was checkin out your build...nice cage....and since when did primm start having events? where is it at the hotel or something?

03-05-2009, 01:07 PM	#25
opponheimer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bikini Atoll Posts: 1,267 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	lol look at you getting all hurt for me calling your t28 small.... okay, you're right, that t28 is the best turbo in the world, you can't make good power and have quick response with any other turbo.. gt2871r and gt3076r aint got nothing on your T28!..... anything over 300hp for drifting is ludicrus! but really if you're happy with a t28 stick with it, whatever suits you and your driving style right? __________________ SR20 & RB20/25/26 in s13/s14 Wiring from $125 to $200.. Best prices EVER.

03-05-2009, 02:04 PM	#27
opponheimer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bikini Atoll Posts: 1,267 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I only went to school in WVU, its hard for me to believe somone like you would be rebuilding an engine if you can't think to clock your turbo 10-15 degrees from the get go. Go ahead, flaunt your e-penis though, make fun of them west virginians mister insecure, over defensive thirty-three year old. __________________ SR20 & RB20/25/26 in s13/s14 Wiring from $125 to $200.. Best prices EVER.

03-05-2009, 02:15 PM	#28
Volchok Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: las vegas Age: 48 Posts: 374 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	LOL sounds like you are getting hurt I am making jokes, what else can you do when someone thread shits but laugh at it. I would never rebuild my engine myself, and I of course considered reclocking the turbo, as stated in the first post I was looking for someone who might have already expierienced this issue with the same setup, and might as well get as much insight as possible before fixing it.