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FloridaRacing · 01-05-2009, 07:06 PM

you can has for less than the price of a damn SR20 swap if you wanted, well not that motor, but something decent still

Flicktitty · 01-05-2009, 07:09 PM

looking good man!

i'm really wanting to find a shell to dump a sbc into now.

Antihero983 · 01-05-2009, 07:13 PM

I know, lol I grew up on hot rods and muscle cars!

Hmm....I think I know where there is one....

now how do you get the gauges to work and whatnot? and what about getting the fuel pump to work with a carb?

Flicktitty · 01-05-2009, 07:24 PM

you can get Dakota Digital speedometer and Tachometer interface boxes.
that's what us 2JZ swap people do.

so i'm only assuming.

irax · 01-05-2009, 07:50 PM

is that a 350z shifter in the passenger seat?

FloridaRacing · 01-06-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

I know, lol I grew up on hot rods and muscle cars!

Hmm....I think I know where there is one....

now how do you get the gauges to work and whatnot? and what about getting the fuel pump to work with a carb?

I am not sure how the interface boxes work, so I cant be much help. I am going to look into that as I do have an electronic speed sensor in the trans. Distributor pickup will come for the RPM as per usual

FloridaRacing · 01-06-2009, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irax

is that a 350z shifter in the passenger seat?

looks it, it's just a front clip

Otto347 · 01-06-2009, 11:51 AM

You get the 510 home yet?

Why not EFI, carbs are so...........

FloridaRacing · 01-06-2009, 02:24 PM

nah, 510 is still in Tampa, it was so close to running when I worked on it last time I was there, hopefully in the next 2 weeks , but ive been saying that for over a year

carb - wiring takes 5 min and has a flatter AFR then most EFI cars

FloridaRacing · 01-08-2009, 02:06 PM

Nearing the end of all the parts needed to get the engine in results in the near completion of the oil pan and pickup tube. The current pickup tube uses an OEM style screen and tube, some custom bent tubing, and then the press fitting for the oil pump. The tube is secured onto a man cap bolt.

The oil pan needed the back of the pan extended since this pan is originally designed for front sump oil pumps, which are very limited. The traditional rear sump pump was used and results in a taller profile. Some finish work on the metal and it will be ready for sealing up.

*kingkilburn* · 01-08-2009, 02:57 PM

How is the oil going to get out of the front sump?

FloridaRacing · 01-08-2009, 03:01 PM

that pickup tube that is going to the front of the motor........

*kingkilburn* · 01-08-2009, 03:05 PM

I guess I'm looking at it backwards...

Ok I'm seeing two sumps, only one with a pickup. Correct? How do you get the oil out of the pickupless sump?

FloridaRacing · 01-08-2009, 04:57 PM

not needed

Rapier46 · 01-08-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaRacing

Here is a mockup of the final engine mounts. This is how they will come, but painted of course. Mckinney has also been working on a powerglide transmission mount which is now done. Additionally, they will work on T-56, T5, and Turbo type transmissions. For now, they support the glide, TKO series, muncie, and saganaw based transmissions.

They will be working on finishing up the headers this week and hopefully have the pan and pick up tube finished next week. The pan will need to be modified in the back to support a rear sump style pump, since the pan was originally designed for front sump pumps that are shorter. There is plenty of room in the back to drop the sheet metal of the pan down.

what's with the half-car action?

FloridaRacing · 01-08-2009, 06:51 PM

lightweight....

its a mockup 1/2 cut......

FloridaRacing · 01-12-2009, 02:42 PM

Techline Coatings came by and did some stuff on the motor. All chrome pieces are black chrome, except the red valve cover breathers. The black pieces were the air cleaner, valve covers, water neck, and distributor hold down clamp.

The intake manifold is coated with a thermal reflecting coating that is also oil shedding. So it will block any incoming heat out. Also the water cross over was coated to keep the heat in the coolant line and out of the air temperature. Coating it on the bottom will keep the oil in the lifter valley from keeping oil on the bottom. Inside the intake manifold is a textured coating that keeps the intake manifold from being too smooth inside and promotes proper tumbling so a good air/fuel mixture.

Antihero983 · 01-12-2009, 03:16 PM

what transmission are you using again? i think i missed it.

Otto347 · 01-12-2009, 03:27 PM

You gunna clear the stock hood or what?

VQMaxFan · 01-12-2009, 03:38 PM

Looks good, looks like spark plugs will be fun to change on #'s 5 and 7.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

what transmission are you using again? i think i missed it.

tko600

yokotas13 · 01-12-2009, 04:02 PM

so, is there going ot be a cmoplete swap kit?
oil pan, pickup, header and mounts available

FloridaRacing · 01-12-2009, 06:08 PM

yea, tko 600

clear the hood? Don't know but doubt it.

Yes there will be a complete kit available. Mount kit is done ($350 for engine and trans from Mckinney), the oil pan and pickup just got sent out to be spec'ed and mass produced, pickup tube will be one piece. Headers are also available whenever.

FloridaRacing · 01-30-2009, 03:07 PM

Been a couple weeks since a real update. A large shipment of random parts showed up, everything from fittings to a 3200 CFM fan. There is a few more pieces to get and it will be ready to go.

The production oil pans and pickup tubes should be in mid next week. Looking to hopefully install sometime in Feb.

Flicktitty · 01-30-2009, 06:02 PM

looking great.

LMK when a complete kit is all done (oil pan,mounts,headers,etc.

FloridaRacing · 01-30-2009, 06:04 PM

Came into today. These are DAMN nice pieces. The pickup tube is super thick and comes with 1st or 2nd main cap bolting options.

The pan is fully baffled and should hold 6-7 quarts and even has a drain bolt for the rear sump area

Final production engine mounts, slotted to allow for a little adjustability and triangulated for strength. That is the transmission mount for the TKO/Muncie style transmissions. Final checking will happen Monday but there shouldn't be any issues.

$450 for the pan and pickup, $350 for engine/trans mounts. They are working on a T5 and T56 trans mount.

$800 and you can BOLT IN a small block Chevy with no other modifications except for a little firewall massaging for the bell housing.

Flicktitty · 01-30-2009, 06:07 PM

$800 isn't too bad something to think about.

thanks for everything.

FloridaRacing · 01-30-2009, 06:18 PM

headers will prob be in the 450-500 range

UsJdmTUner · 01-30-2009, 06:29 PM

how much for your motor setup and can you list the parts

victorw210 · 01-30-2009, 06:31 PM

so once the t5 transmission mounts are done can you use any of these transmissions listed here Borg-Warner T-5 transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or am i wrong and thats something different.

and what does a tko 600 come from and how do you setup the clutch setup do you use stock clutch master cylinder and use custom tubing to the slave cylinder

FloridaRacing · 02-02-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UsJdmTUner

how much for your motor setup and can you list the parts

Major parts to replicate, estimated costs. Though you can find SBCs cheaper

Dart SHP shortblock, all forged internals, 10:1 compression - $4000
Dart Pro 1 215cc top end kit (intake, heads, valvecovers, gaskets, bolts) - $2000
TCI rattler balancer - $300
Front sump oil pan and pickup - $450
comp cams 3 piece timing cover - $270
Comp Cams billet timing set - $100
Comp Cams 12-443-8 cam - $270
Comp Cams magnum OEM spider style Hydraulic lifters - $230
comp magnum pushrods - $100
comp magnum steel roller rockers - $285
pertronix distributor - $250
Holley 830 CFM 4150 HP NASCAR carb - $700

$9000

thats minus front drive accessories, starter, transmission, fuel pump, hosing, misc stuff.

01-05-2009, 07:06 PM	#61
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you can has for less than the price of a damn SR20 swap if you wanted, well not that motor, but something decent still __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-05-2009, 07:09 PM	#62
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	looking good man! i'm really wanting to find a shell to dump a sbc into now. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

01-05-2009, 07:13 PM	#63
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I know, lol I grew up on hot rods and muscle cars! Hmm....I think I know where there is one.... now how do you get the gauges to work and whatnot? and what about getting the fuel pump to work with a carb? __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

01-05-2009, 07:24 PM	#64
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	you can get Dakota Digital speedometer and Tachometer interface boxes. that's what us 2JZ swap people do. so i'm only assuming. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

01-05-2009, 07:50 PM	#65
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	is that a 350z shifter in the passenger seat? __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

01-06-2009, 11:51 AM	#68
Otto347 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Upstate NY Age: 44 Posts: 1,699 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	You get the 510 home yet? Why not EFI, carbs are so...........

01-06-2009, 02:24 PM	#69
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	nah, 510 is still in Tampa, it was so close to running when I worked on it last time I was there, hopefully in the next 2 weeks , but ive been saying that for over a year carb - wiring takes 5 min and has a flatter AFR then most EFI cars __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-08-2009, 02:06 PM	#70
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nearing the end of all the parts needed to get the engine in results in the near completion of the oil pan and pickup tube. The current pickup tube uses an OEM style screen and tube, some custom bent tubing, and then the press fitting for the oil pump. The tube is secured onto a man cap bolt. The oil pan needed the back of the pan extended since this pan is originally designed for front sump oil pumps, which are very limited. The traditional rear sump pump was used and results in a taller profile. Some finish work on the metal and it will be ready for sealing up. __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-08-2009, 02:57 PM	#71
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How is the oil going to get out of the front sump? __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

01-08-2009, 03:01 PM	#72
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	that pickup tube that is going to the front of the motor........ __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-08-2009, 03:05 PM	#73
kingkilburn Philosopher King Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: FresYes Posts: 3,042 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I guess I'm looking at it backwards... Ok I'm seeing two sumps, only one with a pickup. Correct? How do you get the oil out of the pickupless sump? __________________ G O L D E N B E A R R E P U B L I C

01-08-2009, 04:57 PM	#74
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	not needed __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-08-2009, 06:51 PM	#76
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	lightweight.... its a mockup 1/2 cut...... __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-12-2009, 02:42 PM	#77
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Techline Coatings came by and did some stuff on the motor. All chrome pieces are black chrome, except the red valve cover breathers. The black pieces were the air cleaner, valve covers, water neck, and distributor hold down clamp. The intake manifold is coated with a thermal reflecting coating that is also oil shedding. So it will block any incoming heat out. Also the water cross over was coated to keep the heat in the coolant line and out of the air temperature. Coating it on the bottom will keep the oil in the lifter valley from keeping oil on the bottom. Inside the intake manifold is a textured coating that keeps the intake manifold from being too smooth inside and promotes proper tumbling so a good air/fuel mixture. __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-12-2009, 03:16 PM	#78
Antihero983 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 39 Posts: 4,409 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	what transmission are you using again? i think i missed it. __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

01-12-2009, 03:27 PM	#79
Otto347 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Upstate NY Age: 44 Posts: 1,699 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	You gunna clear the stock hood or what?

01-12-2009, 04:02 PM	#81
yokotas13 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Milford, CT Age: 39 Posts: 10,519 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: yokotas13 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	so, is there going ot be a cmoplete swap kit? oil pan, pickup, header and mounts available __________________ 2015 Subaru Outback Overlander - Wagonofdoom

01-12-2009, 06:08 PM	#82
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yea, tko 600 clear the hood? Don't know but doubt it. Yes there will be a complete kit available. Mount kit is done ($350 for engine and trans from Mckinney), the oil pan and pickup just got sent out to be spec'ed and mass produced, pickup tube will be one piece. Headers are also available whenever. __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-30-2009, 03:07 PM	#83
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Been a couple weeks since a real update. A large shipment of random parts showed up, everything from fittings to a 3200 CFM fan. There is a few more pieces to get and it will be ready to go. The production oil pans and pickup tubes should be in mid next week. Looking to hopefully install sometime in Feb. __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-30-2009, 06:02 PM	#84
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	looking great. LMK when a complete kit is all done (oil pan,mounts,headers,etc. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

01-30-2009, 06:04 PM	#85
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Came into today. These are DAMN nice pieces. The pickup tube is super thick and comes with 1st or 2nd main cap bolting options. The pan is fully baffled and should hold 6-7 quarts and even has a drain bolt for the rear sump area Final production engine mounts, slotted to allow for a little adjustability and triangulated for strength. That is the transmission mount for the TKO/Muncie style transmissions. Final checking will happen Monday but there shouldn't be any issues. $450 for the pan and pickup, $350 for engine/trans mounts. They are working on a T5 and T56 trans mount. $800 and you can BOLT IN a small block Chevy with no other modifications except for a little firewall massaging for the bell housing. __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-30-2009, 06:07 PM	#86
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	$800 isn't too bad something to think about. thanks for everything. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

01-30-2009, 06:18 PM	#87
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 43 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	headers will prob be in the 450-500 range __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-30-2009, 06:29 PM	#88
UsJdmTUner Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 234 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	how much for your motor setup and can you list the parts

01-30-2009, 06:31 PM	#89
victorw210 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: st.charles Age: 34 Posts: 226 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	so once the t5 transmission mounts are done can you use any of these transmissions listed here Borg-Warner T-5 transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or am i wrong and thats something different. and what does a tko 600 come from and how do you setup the clutch setup do you use stock clutch master cylinder and use custom tubing to the slave cylinder