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**RJF** · 01-15-2009, 09:23 PM

Change my Ass.

I thought domestic exploration would be an option....according to Lord Obama. Instead we get the same old game.

Over the past 30 years:

Democrats have blocked the development of new sources of petroleum.
Democrats have blocked drilling in ANWR.
Democrats have blocked drilling off the coast of Florida.
Democrats have blocked drilling off of the east coast.
Democrats have blocked drilling off of the west coast.
Democrats have blocked drilling off the Alaskan coast.
Democrats have blocked building oil refineries.
Democrats have blocked clean nuclear energy production.
Democrats have blocked clean coal production.

So it really wasn't so surprising when the democrats opened the 111th Congress by introducing a bill to permanently prohibit drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).

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LongGrain · 01-15-2009, 09:25 PM

good, i prefer more expensive gasoline.

palmdale_mob · 01-15-2009, 09:26 PM

Damn hippies

ILoveMyRHS13 · 01-15-2009, 09:30 PM

Fucking Nancy Pelosi.

JeremyR · 01-15-2009, 09:40 PM

drilling in a wildlife refuge is just stupid.

i'm all for cheaper gas and whatnot. but why not just make more fuel efficient cars. 30mpg hybrids? what a joke. europe has had high MPG cars for YEARS and they arnt hybrids.

america has always had cheap gas so of course who cares if all our cars guzzle it.
whereas most foreign countrys dont have cheap gas, so instead they build more efficient cars. this is the way our country should be moving. 40+mpg cars should be more common place, without this "hybrid" non-sense. saw a "hybrid" silverado at the car show, thing still only gets 20mpg. lame.

BustedS13 · 01-15-2009, 10:30 PM

it's the democrats' fault

sillyvia13 · 01-15-2009, 10:35 PM

I have a really sweet beard...
thats all....

oh yea, and I got a 55 drum of gas. x 10 at $1.52 a gallon.
thats is all.
Stock up on all. shits cheap now, hyperinflation coming sooN!
peace from a hippie!

lflkajfj12123 · 01-15-2009, 10:37 PM

no its your fault busted

Gnnr · 01-15-2009, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJF

Change my Ass.

Kinda has to be in office to do anything. whoo, another RJF democrat bashing thread!! PINEAPPLE PINEAPPLE PINEAPPLE!! Wait, what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongGrain

good, i prefer more expensive gasoline.

Seriously, all this damn traffic now!

svensko · 01-15-2009, 11:05 PM

Wait, we can't destroy the habitat of a fuggen animal refuge so you can keep your SUV topped off? This clearly has you outraged.

!Zar! · 01-15-2009, 11:07 PM

Whatever.

I can afford it.

Just means less broke people going out.

renegade_ewok · 01-15-2009, 11:11 PM

It is what it is, can't bitch about it now. Relative depravity; my friends in Germany pay the equivalent of 6-7 bucks a gallon. Welcome to how the rest of the world feels about this... while Americans bitch about it the most.

Agamemnon · 01-15-2009, 11:15 PM

$4 bucks?! You wish! Expect $5/gallon prices this year.

svensko · 01-15-2009, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renegade_ewok

It is what it is, can't bitch about it now. Relative depravity; my friends in Germany pay the equivalent of 6-7 bucks a gallon. Welcome to how the rest of the world feels about this... while Americans bitch about it the most.

Psssssssssst, the rest of the world has reasonable public transportation and major cities that aren't hundreds of miles from each other.

ATLspeed · 01-15-2009, 11:19 PM

think i may have to move closer to where drift events are held....cuz ill be damn if i drive more than an hour to have some fun lol

*DALAZ_68* · 01-15-2009, 11:24 PM

w/e...i payed it once

BustedS13 · 01-15-2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

no its your fault busted

you'll get change

change from a five when you buy a gallon of gasoline for FOUR DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Flipzide · 01-15-2009, 11:26 PM

Aww... I should've stockpiled, hahah.

ronmcdon · 01-15-2009, 11:41 PM

I'm interested in the refineries.
What laws are you talking about specifically that limit or prohibit the building of new facilities?

I think there will be change. I'm just not so sure its for the better.

neverrain · 01-15-2009, 11:49 PM

Almost 5 bucks a gallon. My s13 was pushing a $60 fillup. Oh well. My buddies SS Silverado will cost almost $120 to fill the tank. Glad I only need to drive to work 4 days a week. 4/10 schedules are ftw.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 01-16-2009, 12:00 AM

Work is 30 minutes away from my house with traffic.

Would be less without.

High gas prices did suck, but less people driving = win.

Now, it takes forever to get anywhere.

It's a lose/lose situation.

High gas prices = Nobody drives
Low gas prices = Everybody and their mom's mom drive.

ronmcdon · 01-16-2009, 12:19 AM

My commute in socal remains more or less the same. I drive between west la, the san fernando valley, downtown, and god-forsaken azusa. gas prices had negligible if any effect. traffic is nice when school's out, but thats about it.

besides, I don't think many ppl are going to quit their job and stop driving to work b/c they pay more for gas, esp with the economy the way it is. you just deal with it.

racer98 · 01-16-2009, 12:25 AM

Waiting for the routine maintenance shut down and all of the nickel and dime savings they do at the refineries, look when the last refinery was built in the usa, look at the refineries down in long beach / Torrance they have not spent any money for modernization and improvement, just a ticking time bomb.

iwishiwas-all* · 01-16-2009, 12:36 AM

they dont like to drill in alaskek cause the aminals no drill theree drill mexicod

edit:this could have been the craziest thing ive ever typed drunk

luftrofl · 01-16-2009, 12:43 AM

No shit it's coming back. Anyone who didn't see it coming is a fool.

Anybody who is saying that ANWR would make a significant impact is either unqualified to speak on the issue or is being paid a lot to say so. Either way, it's a stupid argument to make as there's not enough oil and it can't be accessed quickly enough to make a difference to the consumer.

That said, there's a stupid fear of nuclear power in this country. "Clean" technology clearly isn't where we want it to be and Americans have proved time and time again to be unable to understand that concessions must be made. Nuclear power seems like a good "temporary" power source until solar/wind/fusion/etc. really takes off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongGrain

good, i prefer more expensive gasoline.

Agreed. Fewer people on the road + people driving slower = great.

Koopa Troopa · 01-16-2009, 01:23 AM

Good, maybe Americans will finally stop insisting that everything be bigger and badder then the next guys.

BustedS13 · 01-16-2009, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa

Good, maybe Americans will finally stop insisting that everything be bigger and badder then the next guys.

quiet nerd

Kn1ves · 01-16-2009, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luftrofl

No shit it's coming back. Anyone who didn't see it coming is a fool.

Anybody who is saying that ANWR would make a significant impact is either unqualified to speak on the issue or is being paid a lot to say so. Either way, it's a stupid argument to make as there's not enough oil and it can't be accessed quickly enough to make a difference to the consumer.

That said, there's a stupid fear of nuclear power in this country. "Clean" technology clearly isn't where we want it to be and Americans have proved time and time again to be unable to understand that concessions must be made. Nuclear power seems like a good "temporary" power source until solar/wind/fusion/etc. really takes off.

Agreed. Fewer people on the road + people driving slower = great.

Yup, it takes about 12 years to properly locate, drill, produce and export oil from an source that hasn't been found yet.

HalveBlue · 01-16-2009, 05:19 AM

You're all tools.

The Real Reason Gas Hit $4/Gallon

BTW, I pay ~$6.35/gallon.

Awesome.

TheWolf · 01-16-2009, 06:17 AM

why does anyone think drilling in florida is good... everyone that's been to texas from florida and see how oil rigs dicked the beach doesn't want it.. florida gets like 3x the hurricanes that the gulf coast does. florida is a long thin stick of land so even if a hurricane doesn't hit where the rig is.. says it hits 200 miles north... it will still cut off the supply from that rig as it will have to pass through that area... florida has way to many hippies, reef lovers, manatees, endangered everything to drill... not happening.

01-15-2009, 09:23 PM	#1
RJF Super Administrator & Bean Counter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lone Tree, CO Posts: 2,400 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$4.00 Gas Prices - They'll be back. Change my Ass. I thought domestic exploration would be an option....according to Lord Obama. Instead we get the same old game. Over the past 30 years: Democrats have blocked the development of new sources of petroleum. Democrats have blocked drilling in ANWR. Democrats have blocked drilling off the coast of Florida. Democrats have blocked drilling off of the east coast. Democrats have blocked drilling off of the west coast. Democrats have blocked drilling off the Alaskan coast. Democrats have blocked building oil refineries. Democrats have blocked clean nuclear energy production. Democrats have blocked clean coal production. So it really wasn't so surprising when the democrats opened the 111th Congress by introducing a bill to permanently prohibit drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L6pDyjqqsv...h/no+zones.jpg __________________ *Zilvia.net...Where the Truth Hurts and Pain Builds Character*

01-15-2009, 10:30 PM	#6
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 39 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it's the democrats' fault __________________

01-15-2009, 11:05 PM	#10
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wait, we can't destroy the habitat of a fuggen animal refuge so you can keep your SUV topped off? This clearly has you outraged. __________________ Respect begets respect.

01-15-2009, 11:07 PM	#11
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Whatever. I can afford it. Just means less broke people going out. __________________

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ATLspeed Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Eden, MD, USA Age: 37 Posts: 921 Trader Rating: (14) Rides Gallery: ATLspeed Feedback Score: 14 reviews	think i may have to move closer to where drift events are held....cuz ill be damn if i drive more than an hour to have some fun lol __________________ 93 s13 Vert - 2jz/cd009 -- parted/sold 95 Supra Turbo

01-15-2009, 09:25 PM	#2
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	good, i prefer more expensive gasoline.

01-15-2009, 09:26 PM	#3
palmdale_mob Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CA Age: 33 Posts: 825 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Damn hippies

01-15-2009, 10:35 PM	#7
sillyvia13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nh Posts: 1,645 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have a really sweet beard... thats all.... oh yea, and I got a 55 drum of gas. x 10 at $1.52 a gallon. thats is all. Stock up on all. shits cheap now, hyperinflation coming sooN! peace from a hippie!

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lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,483 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	no its your fault busted

01-15-2009, 11:11 PM	#12
renegade_ewok Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC Age: 36 Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It is what it is, can't bitch about it now. Relative depravity; my friends in Germany pay the equivalent of 6-7 bucks a gallon. Welcome to how the rest of the world feels about this... while Americans bitch about it the most.

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Agamemnon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Age: 41 Posts: 2,657 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	$4 bucks?! You wish! Expect $5/gallon prices this year.

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I'm interested in the refineries. What laws are you talking about specifically that limit or prohibit the building of new facilities? I think there will be change. I'm just not so sure its for the better.

01-15-2009, 11:49 PM	#20
neverrain Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: SoCal 818 Age: 43 Posts: 901 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Almost 5 bucks a gallon. My s13 was pushing a $60 fillup. Oh well. My buddies SS Silverado will cost almost $120 to fill the tank. Glad I only need to drive to work 4 days a week. 4/10 schedules are ftw. __________________

01-16-2009, 12:19 AM	#22
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	My commute in socal remains more or less the same. I drive between west la, the san fernando valley, downtown, and god-forsaken azusa. gas prices had negligible if any effect. traffic is nice when school's out, but thats about it. besides, I don't think many ppl are going to quit their job and stop driving to work b/c they pay more for gas, esp with the economy the way it is. you just deal with it.

01-16-2009, 12:25 AM	#23
racer98 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: 六本木 Age: 46 Posts: 6,202 Trader Rating: (128) Feedback Score: 128 reviews	Waiting for the routine maintenance shut down and all of the nickel and dime savings they do at the refineries, look when the last refinery was built in the usa, look at the refineries down in long beach / Torrance they have not spent any money for modernization and improvement, just a ticking time bomb.

01-16-2009, 12:36 AM	#24
iwishiwas-all* Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Oxford, UK/Miami Age: 36 Posts: 1,710 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: iwishiwas-all* Feedback Score: 2 reviews	they dont like to drill in alaskek cause the aminals no drill theree drill mexicod edit:this could have been the craziest thing ive ever typed drunk __________________ IG @gabednconfused https://www.youtube.com/user/gabedm Last edited by iwishiwas-all; 01-16-2009 at 05:57 AM..*

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01-16-2009, 06:17 AM	#30
TheWolf Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange Park, FL (Jax) Posts: 1,468 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why does anyone think drilling in florida is good... everyone that's been to texas from florida and see how oil rigs dicked the beach doesn't want it.. florida gets like 3x the hurricanes that the gulf coast does. florida is a long thin stick of land so even if a hurricane doesn't hit where the rig is.. says it hits 200 miles north... it will still cut off the supply from that rig as it will have to pass through that area... florida has way to many hippies, reef lovers, manatees, endangered everything to drill... not happening. __________________ Eye on the Prize