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Yesh · 03-10-2011, 09:28 PM

Is it this one??
NISSAN 240SX S13 FRONT & REAR 5-LUG CONVERSION SET - eBay (item 140506854527 end time Mar-31-11 03:47:21 PDT)

twyztidmind · 05-19-2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yesh

Is it this one??
NISSAN 240SX S13 FRONT & REAR 5-LUG CONVERSION SET - eBay (item 140506854527 end time Mar-31-11 03:47:21 PDT)

Yes thats the one.

UPDATE: When buying the ebay ones, buy some aftermarket studs such as ARP or Nismo. The ones that come with the hubs snap pretty easy.

I got some ARP Extended lugs since we are adding wheel spacers soon.

LDB477 · 05-21-2011, 07:59 AM

I am in the middle of doing one of these swaps and I'm running into an issue with the ABS ring. The toothed ring that comes off of the old hubs does not fit the new hubs, and the new hubs come with some weird flange-ring looking thing. I can only assume that this is some sort of ABS defeater, anyone else run into this?

twyztidmind · 05-23-2011, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDB477

I am in the middle of doing one of these swaps and I'm running into an issue with the ABS ring. The toothed ring that comes off of the old hubs does not fit the new hubs, and the new hubs come with some weird flange-ring looking thing. I can only assume that this is some sort of ABS defeater, anyone else run into this?

Can't help you there mine didnt have ABS.

A54 · 05-23-2011, 09:02 PM

Nice ...Thanks for the pictures!

Speed Junky · 05-24-2011, 11:11 AM

Eventually I will do this, i'm guessing you do this because a 5 lug is stronger and have more wheel options? Can anyone explain the technical side to this?

fckillerbee · 05-24-2011, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed Junky

Eventually I will do this, i'm guessing you do this because a 5 lug is stronger and have more wheel options? Can anyone explain the technical side to this?

yes. brake options too.

Edwin562 · 05-24-2011, 11:24 AM

this will help me alot soon, i just bought my 5 lug hubs... thanks for great write up...

Dany · 03-20-2012, 02:31 AM

Can I do the same thing as u but for an s13? or theirs more steps to it?

SuperDown · 03-21-2012, 07:19 AM

Sweeeeeeeeeet

jaysgottaredtop · 03-21-2012, 07:32 AM

FYI for you do-it-yourselfers with access to a drill press and other basic tools:

http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/400538...onversion.html

^ basically free front 5lug conversion.

SuperDown · 03-21-2012, 07:45 AM

I wanted to stay 4 lug pretty had but the huge selection of wheels and sizes is too much to ignore so screw it I'm down haha

*hOngsterr* · 03-21-2012, 09:08 AM

found it.

http://zilvia.net/f/archive-faqs/142...pics-rear.html

jake schuur · 03-22-2012, 09:16 AM

good write up. I just did this swap and it was a breeze

tapdeznutz · 03-29-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jake schuur

good write up. I just did this swap and it was a breeze

^i'm with stupid hehe^

lewisfk · 04-14-2012, 10:47 PM

quick question for the guys who done this already, i'm in the middle of the rear swap and i couldnt get the four nuts by the spindle off. So i just pushed the spindle out! I removed the rear shocks and the suspison linkage then i used some man juice and pushed it out! Did I f#$% something up or is this a common thing?

lewisfk · 04-16-2012, 08:11 AM

Noone has done this?

tapdeznutz · 04-16-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lewisfk

quick question for the guys who done this already, i'm in the middle of the rear swap and i couldnt get the four nuts by the spindle off. So i just pushed the spindle out! I removed the rear shocks and the suspison linkage then i used some man juice and pushed it out! Did I f#$% something up or is this a common thing?

push out? u mean removed the entire spindle? which shouldnt be a problem and you really did not have to remove ur strut either unless you just wanted more room to work....just remove and replace the 4 with the 5 lug hub now and re-assemble. i had to remove some linkages too but again everything is straight forward...just take ur time and think things thru. gl

future · 04-16-2012, 10:00 AM

I have a questions. I bought some z32 n/a rear hubs. They fit my axEls and everything. But the hubs have he extra tab on them. Thoes holds the ebrake shoe together on the z32. Im bot doing the rear ebrake conversions so will these hubs work? Or are they only good for people using them for a z32 ebrake conversion? Oh and this is a s13 btw

lewisfk · 04-17-2012, 06:45 PM

Can someone verify the torque of the 36 mm hub nut is 75-85, and the four nuts are 58-72 lbs torque? Thanks Lou!

Hey guys im having trouble getting the rear hub off, is there something I'm missing?

The four bolts are off, the 36 mm nut and c. pin is also. I pulled to plastic rings from the inside of the 4 lug off. I spent the last hour banging the shit out of the hub, any suggestions!

jaysgottaredtop · 04-17-2012, 08:16 PM

torque specs for the axle nuts are big-breaker-bar-and-jump-on-it.

torque specs for the four hub nuts are big-breaker-bar-and-tighten-it-as-best-you-can-in-such-an-awkward-space.

lewisfk · 04-17-2012, 08:18 PM

^^i have an impact gun so I can hit from 90 to 150 lbs, I just dont want to over due it! How about the other stuff I mentioned?

cliffsmith1 · 04-24-2012, 07:25 PM

So lets say I broke the front 19mm caliper mounting bolt... what size bolt would that be?

lewisfk · 04-28-2012, 10:47 PM

Hub puller works miracles! 20 bucks harbor freight!

zooopreme · 04-28-2012, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by future

I have a questions. I bought some z32 n/a rear hubs. They fit my axEls and everything. But the hubs have he extra tab on them. Thoes holds the ebrake shoe together on the z32. Im not doing the rear ebrake conversions so will these hubs work? Or are they only good for people using them for a z32 ebrake conversion? Oh and this is a s13 btw

+1, I also want to know this.

future · 04-29-2012, 12:23 AM

Ive been wanting a answer for months

pacotaco345 · 10-11-2012, 08:36 PM

It seems like the ebay hubs are hit and miss... My rear hubs have about 2500 miles on them and already have play on both sides. My front left hub came drilled slightly off center so it feels like I have an out of balance wheel all the time. My front right one though, is perfect lol. So just FYI for everyone, buyer beware.

jesse_s13 · 10-11-2012, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

It seems like the ebay hubs are hit and miss... My rear hubs have about 2500 miles on them and already have play on both sides. My front left hub came drilled slightly off center so it feels like I have an out of balance wheel all the time. My front right one though, is perfect lol. So just FYI for everyone, buyer beware.

OEM. This can be a SAFETY issue.

jaysgottaredtop · 10-11-2012, 09:40 PM

^ both of my housemates (both with S13s) have used ebay hubs at one point or another, and they all went bad.

one hub (a front hub) developed play between the outer race of the bearing and the hub into which it was pressed! very very very very very bad. the bearing is bolted to the knuckle... but suddenly the hub/rotor/wheel are no longer firmly attached to the bearing! the only thing holding on the hub/rotor/wheel is the brake caliper (which is then getting loaded/twisted as the car enters a hard corner).

bottom line: ebay hubs can be very dangerous. either use oem s13/s14 hubs, or grind out a new snap-ring groove into a j30 hub and press in the correct s13/s14 bearing.

tapdeznutz · 10-11-2012, 10:36 PM

j30 hubs FTW!!

03-21-2012, 07:32 AM	#41
jaysgottaredtop Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 950 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	FYI for you do-it-yourselfers with access to a drill press and other basic tools: http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/400538...onversion.html ^ basically free front 5lug conversion. __________________

04-17-2012, 06:45 PM	#50
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Can someone verify the torque of the 36 mm hub nut is 75-85, and the four nuts are 58-72 lbs torque? Thanks Lou! Hey guys im having trouble getting the rear hub off, is there something I'm missing? The four bolts are off, the 36 mm nut and c. pin is also. I pulled to plastic rings from the inside of the 4 lug off. I spent the last hour banging the shit out of the hub, any suggestions! Last edited by lewisfk; 04-17-2012 at 08:05 PM..

04-17-2012, 08:16 PM	#51
jaysgottaredtop Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 950 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	torque specs for the axle nuts are big-breaker-bar-and-jump-on-it. torque specs for the four hub nuts are big-breaker-bar-and-tighten-it-as-best-you-can-in-such-an-awkward-space. __________________

10-11-2012, 08:36 PM	#57
pacotaco345 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal/Ft Worth TX Age: 30 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	It seems like the ebay hubs are hit and miss... My rear hubs have about 2500 miles on them and already have play on both sides. My front left hub came drilled slightly off center so it feels like I have an out of balance wheel all the time. My front right one though, is perfect lol. So just FYI for everyone, buyer beware. __________________

10-11-2012, 09:40 PM	#59
jaysgottaredtop Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 950 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	^ both of my housemates (both with S13s) have used ebay hubs at one point or another, and they all went bad. one hub (a front hub) developed play between the outer race of the bearing and the hub into which it was pressed! very very very very very bad. the bearing is bolted to the knuckle... but suddenly the hub/rotor/wheel are no longer firmly attached to the bearing! the only thing holding on the hub/rotor/wheel is the brake caliper (which is then getting loaded/twisted as the car enters a hard corner). bottom line: ebay hubs can be very dangerous. either use oem s13/s14 hubs, or grind out a new snap-ring groove into a j30 hub and press in the correct s13/s14 bearing. __________________

03-10-2011, 09:28 PM	#31
Yesh Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow at long beach one rainy day. Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is it this one?? NISSAN 240SX S13 FRONT & REAR 5-LUG CONVERSION SET - eBay (item 140506854527 end time Mar-31-11 03:47:21 PDT)

05-21-2011, 07:59 AM	#33
LDB477 Join Date: May 2011 Location: New England Age: 38 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am in the middle of doing one of these swaps and I'm running into an issue with the ABS ring. The toothed ring that comes off of the old hubs does not fit the new hubs, and the new hubs come with some weird flange-ring looking thing. I can only assume that this is some sort of ABS defeater, anyone else run into this?

05-23-2011, 09:02 PM	#35
A54 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	Nice ...Thanks for the pictures!

05-24-2011, 11:11 AM	#36
Speed Junky Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA 253/CA 925 Posts: 125 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Eventually I will do this, i'm guessing you do this because a 5 lug is stronger and have more wheel options? Can anyone explain the technical side to this?

05-24-2011, 11:24 AM	#38
Edwin562 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Whittier (562) Age: 34 Posts: 4,721 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	this will help me alot soon, i just bought my 5 lug hubs... thanks for great write up...

03-20-2012, 02:31 AM	#39
Dany Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 892 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Can I do the same thing as u but for an s13? or theirs more steps to it?

03-21-2012, 07:19 AM	#40
SuperDown Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 135 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Sweeeeeeeeeet

03-21-2012, 07:45 AM	#42
SuperDown Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fort Worth, Tx Posts: 135 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I wanted to stay 4 lug pretty had but the huge selection of wheels and sizes is too much to ignore so screw it I'm down haha

03-22-2012, 09:16 AM	#44
jake schuur Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: tacoma, Wa Age: 32 Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	good write up. I just did this swap and it was a breeze

04-14-2012, 10:47 PM	#46
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	quick question for the guys who done this already, i'm in the middle of the rear swap and i couldnt get the four nuts by the spindle off. So i just pushed the spindle out! I removed the rear shocks and the suspison linkage then i used some man juice and pushed it out! Did I f#$% something up or is this a common thing?

04-16-2012, 08:11 AM	#47
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Noone has done this?

04-17-2012, 08:18 PM	#52
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^i have an impact gun so I can hit from 90 to 150 lbs, I just dont want to over due it! How about the other stuff I mentioned?

04-24-2012, 07:25 PM	#53
cliffsmith1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: OH/KY Age: 36 Posts: 102 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So lets say I broke the front 19mm caliper mounting bolt... what size bolt would that be?

04-28-2012, 10:47 PM	#54
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Hub puller works miracles! 20 bucks harbor freight!

10-11-2012, 10:36 PM	#60
tapdeznutz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Beach Age: 44 Posts: 1,801 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	j30 hubs FTW!! __________________ FS: DSS 1pc Steel Non ABS, 6bolt axles WTB: Boost Gauge, Hatch Roof Wing