CA 1985 Toyota Corolla GT-S, Zenki Trueno Resto

[Agent_Smith]

The original white color on your ae86 is in excellent shape. Thus, it's differently a SR5 and NOT GTS. ALL original GTS (4AGE) were never painted in color white for the USA market, except for the SR5 (4AC). Thus, the tags were swap from a GTS (AE88) for your SR5 (AE86). Shamefully, this is a NO NO.

If your ae86 was authentically an original GTS, or if this build had an accurate description build of a "SR5 w/ 20V 4AGE swap" then you wouldn't have be so many club4ag members all over you trying to discredit this sale, or you. We want to protect our community, especially prospects who don't know much about the AE86.

[speedracer5]

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[itsguyguy]

That was a bit of dirt dug up, but regardless I still think this is a hell of a deal.

[mattmoore44]

Can I just chime in and beat a dead horse real quick? I don't see how you guys missed it, but the rivets holding his VIN tags on are the farthest thing from factory, they have clearly been drilled out and replaced with your generic run of the mill rivets.

[mikeyee]

Originally Posted by ploop

Left picture is of his ad currently running/Right picture is from built thread on C4AG. **the stamp on the right from his build thread matches the vin numbers on Ebay and the pictures he posted

According to this here Club4AG Forum Topics: Buyers Guide To Identify Possible Stolen Car..Must READ!

You can swap vin numbers all you want but what you cant change is the stamp on the firewall

deny all you want but proof is in the pictures and youre build threads
Club4AG Forum Topics: UJ's 1984 Toyota Corolla GT-SR5

edit: oops. AE86 chassis all are stamped AE86 where you had circled in yellow, ploop. but the last 7 #'s should match the last 7 numbers on the VIN that's riveted. (the VIN is where you determine true GTS or SR5, GTS=AE88 and SR5=AE86 in the VIN# that's riveted, and under the windshield at the dash.)

As stated in the ebay post, the VIN is: JT2AE88C0F0130686
and last 7 digits of the chassis as recognized by ploop, it's 0234083. not a match./edit

I've also been following UJ's build (Karate_Crimson) on club4ag for a while and definitely remember this thing starting its life as an SR5. unfortunately the build page was 404'd.

this is pretty damn illegal if the vins were swapped.
V C Section 10752 Fraudulent Acquisition or Disposition of Vehicle Identification Number Penalty

shame shame shame, for posting this as a GTS. GTSR5 is understandable, but as a GTS is some shady stuff.

Hopefully this is just a misunderstanding.

edit2: after actually looking through the thread. wtf man. 1. http://i.imgur.com/i1dnr.jpg 2. http://i.imgur.com/6d3Ue.png . /edit

[!Zar!]

I would love if this thread ends with the OP being charged with a crime.

[grip40]

this got gnarly real fast. OP you make us 86 owners look awesome.
i like how youve had a comeback recently.
you were pretty quick to respond when this was all unfolding, now that youre exposed you havent said S$#t
nice job Needle D(%k

[smallport4ag]

I can vouch for this car also being a sr5 and I've been in the corolla scene from when OP first joined club4ag. Car is actually a 1986 or 1987 sr5 originally which he swapped from his flipped gts hatch. Vin is not connected to the dash board in these cars, its riveted onto the cowl which would need to be cut out as others stated or rivets drilled out with the windshield removed. Best option for OP would be to swap back vins and stop BSing everyone trying to get more money so he doesnt get sued for fraud (by the next owner), fined by the state, and possibly imprisoned.

Sad to see someone who went from being a disrespected fan boy to someone who redeemed himself (in my eyes) over the years but only to turn out as a SCAMMER.

[s14j]

LOL shaaatz would happen on zilvia.

[idrivetoys]

Your pm box is full

[miamiman323]

At first i though everyone was just trolling him but low and behold hes ran off like a scared girl. Good job car forum detectives, and i though the dude building this car paid attention to detail, you guys just blew my mind with facts.

[RB25Mueller]

Awesome job! Looks soo good, bumpity bump bump for you.

[touge_monster86]

holy shit hahahahahahaha. I did the swap on that GT-S he flipped . what ever happened to this U.J. kid?