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Old 04-18-2011, 10:32 PM   #361
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Can anyone reccomend me a stronger pre-workout other than muscle marinade?

Jack3d, and black powder do not work for me. The MM is ok, not as intense as I'd like. Is there something wrong with my body considering I barely feel this pre-workout that ive read reviews of being the strongest out there? The pump is good, but the focus isnt at a level I want.
Lol you may have adhd... Most of them are very immune tonstimulants.
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50lbs of muscle in a year... LOL is all I can say. Come on, 25 maybe 30 if your michael phelps with 10x the human testosterone count. At the least dont come in here telling kids they can put on 50lbs of muscle in a year. I train around and know pro's and 50lbs is rediculous even when on. Unless your way far from your genetic limit(ie. 6'0 @ 142 lbs) even then.... Maybe.... With a perfect diet, training regimen and 5500 kcals a day and over 350g of protein I was stuck at 150lb and 6-8% till I was 25. Sure I had an awesome body but there was no way I was gonna put on 50lbs in 12 months especially of muscle. That means you put on a total of 75lbs including fat... And thats if you was clean bulking which was highly doubtful. But hey, I maybe totally wrong and your definately a candidate for the natural arnold classic. 1 out of 1,000,000 guys are born with genetics of a god.
i hate all the bro science people have.

gained 50 lbs in a year, gained 10lbs in a week, etc etc.

we are aware of what it takes, so we understand what goes on to get those gains.

others, not so much.

genetics > everything. usually african american males have good genetics for physical activities for such. I'm very sure NFL players can easily transition into bodybuilding.

the roids allow you to pass genetics.

also, there is something called NOOB GAINS.

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Can anyone reccomend me a stronger pre-workout other than muscle marinade?

Jack3d, and black powder do not work for me. The MM is ok, not as intense as I'd like. Is there something wrong with my body considering I barely feel this pre-workout that ive read reviews of being the strongest out there? The pump is good, but the focus isnt at a level I want.
they don't work because you didn't cycle off of it.

you have to cycle stim's or else your body will get use to it. then you'll have to take more and more.
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Is that why I snort soooo much more coke these days for the same effect. i need to cycle off of them? LOL
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Lost count... Started at 24 and im in my 30's now.... 2-3x a year easy lol... Ive done long ones and short ones...
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they don't work because you didn't cycle off of it.

you have to cycle stim's or else your body will get use to it. then you'll have to take more and more.
Jack3d worked for me for about a week. Then i took like 2 weeks off, not taking anything, and when i tried it again...nothing. even with 3 scoops.

Its very depressing..

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Lol you may have adhd... Most of them are very immune tonstimulants.
are you being serious? I do have a brain injury(a bruise on the left front temporal lobe of my brain) Could that be the reason why these pre-workouts dont affect me the way they should?
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yes. adhd patients are prescribed riddlin and adderal and it normalizes them. im grinding like a raver on 3 pills of Extacy on their meds but damn is studying easy LOL. i used it through out college and it was a tremendous help. but adhd people dont feel nything. sorry for typos im at the gym shaking on leanrevolution and half a rockstar!
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Lean rev owns. its the best pre workout Ive tried yet.
pricey at 50-60$ per tub, but worth every penny. Only thing that may top it is sack of coke but thats not good for you lol
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Lean rev owns. its the best pre workout Ive tried yet.
pricey at 50-60$ per tub, but worth every penny. Only thing that may top it is sack of coke but thats not good for you lol
In controlled amounts it cant be that bad.
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Lean rev owns. its the best pre workout Ive tried yet.
pricey at 50-60$ per tub, but worth every penny. Only thing that may top it is sack of coke but thats not good for you lol
I will give it a shot, I know alot of dudes I know swear by Ravage.
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my chest workout for the next month is..

start of heavy straight of the back, find a weight that makes me struggle to do 6 reps. no warm up reps. aiming for 4-6reps/3 sets.

225lbs flat barbell bench.(use a spot on the last 2 reps)
70lbs dumbbell slight incline using balance ball(great for isolating the pecks)
80lbs dumbbells decline bench
weighted push ups(switch between wide/triangle between sets) with 45lbs plate on back.

biceps/triceps tonight and will be doing the same method as i do for chest weight/rep wise.

diet wise, mostly chicken/steak for meals. brown rice. snacks like almonds/protein shakes between meals. i work out at night so before i sleep ill have a banana+peanut butter sandwich. a lot of water throughout the day.
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You've been on steroids for six + years to look like this?

You're 5 foot tall, you should look thick if you think about going to the gym.
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You're 5 foot tall, you should look thick if you think about going to the gym.
in not on roids and im bigger than that and im 5ft 6 170! i didnt want to say anything about it but hey it is so funny! Real note if your a fan of JAK3D buy that shit up now! the military are pulling it from their shelfs and the GNC on Camp PEN. cant sell it! Its due to DIMETHYLAMLAMINE, i heard so many excusses why there pulling it. Some say u pop on drug test for cocaine, others say its because people are making speed with it, and Marines are abusing it and passing the fuck out! What have u heard?
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i was thinkin the same thing.

you sure you doin it right? your legs should be like 27", arms 18" wide back, thick lats, 19" calves, all that.
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i was thinkin the same thing.

you sure you doin it right? your legs should be like 27", arms 18" wide back, thick lats, 19" calves, all that.
I was wondering who has a hard time buying clothes! My waist is 29 inches but my legs are so damn big i have to buy a 32 waist pants! I dont even rock skinny jeans! When it comes to buying shirts it sucks, im short so when i find a shirt to fit my arms it looks like a damn tent on me. i like dressing nice so i shop at express and other stores but most department stores dont carry jeans i can fit. I can go with the plan jane Levis, but they dont offer that much style. I use to wear a lot of Polo jeans but R.L. decide to cancel his line of relax fit jeans! One of the guys i know from the gym just wears shorts, or the pants from track suits. i make fun of him all the time but the truth of the matter is once u commit to being big u run out of alot of clothing options! I still have a few more pounds of muscle to gain before that happens, but im not looking forward to it!
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I have a problem with buying jeans too! Sprinting is ALL glutes, quads, and hammies. My waist is small, but my legs totally make me have to buy pants 2 or 3 sizes up. Totally sucks.

In other news, its getting to that part of the season where my body is beginning to peak. It's awesome. lol
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i was thinkin the same thing.

you sure you doin it right? your legs should be like 27", arms 18" wide back, thick lats, 19" calves, all that.
lol all while trying to maintain 175lb? ive been as big as 195 and hated it. I took a year off once my daughter was born 1.5 years ago. Im currently 176 12% and cutting. I use it as more of a recovery and joint protection. my goal is to be 170@ 8% by the summer. 27" arms just arent possible at this weight. kinda funny coming from a kid with 1,000's of rep points in BB.com and is still smaller than me. Some guys like size, I like to be lean and vascular. I also do construction and need the mobility.
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I have a problem with buying jeans too! Sprinting is ALL glutes, quads, and hammies. My waist is small, but my legs totally make me have to buy pants 2 or 3 sizes up. Totally sucks.

In other news, its getting to that part of the season where my body is beginning to peak. It's awesome. lol
that sucks bro... i also have a 29" waste but I definatley dont have your problem or your awesome genetics. Track and field guys always had the best bodies in highschool and college. I just buy straight leg boot cut in 30's to fit my quads.
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^ so since ive sent you the Lean Rev, Which would you say is better.
Jack3d or lean rev.
What do you have to say about both, Likes and dislikes?
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lol all while trying to maintain 175lb? ive been as big as 195 and hated it. I took a year off once my daughter was born 1.5 years ago. Im currently 176 12% and cutting. I use it as more of a recovery and joint protection. my goal is to be 170@ 8% by the summer. 27" arms just arent possible at this weight. kinda funny coming from a kid with 1,000's of rep points in BB.com and is still smaller than me. Some guys like size, I like to be lean and vascular. I also do construction and need the mobility.
legs man, not arms. i wasn't being mean or anything, i was just wondering. i'm still natty at this point, i can only do so much with it. i'm 6' 185lbs @ 10% bro..
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^ so since ive sent you the Lean Rev, Which would you say is better.
Jack3d or lean rev.
What do you have to say about both, Likes and dislikes?
Im about a week in and I think im feeling the differenxe now. Its smoother and lasts alot longer. buy im still shaking like a mofo.
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legs man, not arms. i wasn't being mean or anything, i was just wondering. i'm still natty at this point, i can only do so much with it. i'm 6' 185lbs @ 10% bro..
I gotcha... When I started I was plateu'd at 145 @ 8% or less. I graduated Highschool @ 119lbs LOL due to wrestling the weight class I feel it totally stunted my growth. It was murder getting up to 145lbs in college.I honestly feel my genetics were to blaim. Put it this way, I had a serious height defiecency in Junior highschool and I was prescribed Growth @ 13 years old. I went from 5'0 to 5'4 in a matter or weeks. In highschool I was still undersized but ended up graduating at 5'6" thankgod.
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this dude is 160lbs guess his bodyfat.
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this dude is 160lbs guess his bodyfat.
Dddoooopppeeee... definately round 4%
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^thats what youre gonna look like when youre done cutting right?
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4% Is a huge wish... We shall see... Id be happy with 8% to be honest. I can only get in 4 days a week right now with my work schedule. Its all diet from here on out..
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i think 4% is a bit low, last i remember Pham was 5.5% or 6%.
Have you ever checked out Matus Valent. 3.5% body fat, he is gnar!
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