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BlackZenkiS14 · 10-18-2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dboyizmlg

That was with pump gas, AND Meth injection right?

Yes, but I was only using it as a safety against detonation, I never altered my AFR or timing to accomodate it. I was running a standard off the shelf JWT tune.

Jorgs_7 · 10-19-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by codyace

There is an entire thread of how to pull it off, called the 2871r owners thread. The thing is that thread has been so cluttered for yeras that it's hard to say where it's all gone.

The basic cookbook recipie of success however is:

JWT or Enthalpy ECU
GT2871r or GTX2867r (in .64 housing for both IMO is the better setup)
JWT S3 or S4 cams
OEM turbo manifold with Honing
Greddy (or freddy, sigh) Intake Manifold
Quality Intercooler (Read: Greddy RSPL)
Pump gas/20 psi.

Now engine wise we can forver debate what is best. I think we all can agree (know better) than trusting that setup on a stock engine. Sure will 1 or 2 guys never have an issue? Sure. I went a while until popping an injector gromet up and leaning it out. The safe bet though is to put a set of forged (CP) pistons (stock rods IMO are totally fine for sub 500whp) and a Quality (Apexi, Cosworth) headgasket and some ARP or Mazworx head studs.

It's a simple setup for sure, a little costly, but nothing more than blowing up stock junk twice anymore. WHen I set the car up, SR parts weren't the easiest to find, so you had to make it last.

My engine is still around, and I'd argue sees THE MOST road race time of anyone on Zilvia that can still drive their junk on the street(ok there may be 1 or maybe 2 that have more) and I've never had any issue. Quality parts will last.

The biggest issue IMO of the setup is everyone wants to skip a corner, or try something different...which is fine, but then people begin to forget that these setups can make awesome power...just not with an ISIS 2871r, or small cams, or with similar 'not the same' type builds. The setup I have works, and has worked for almost a decade...yet nothing has come out to really impress me enough to change the entire deal over. Sure VVL heads and that technology is aweseome, but I'm not spinning to 9500 rpm, and i only have a T2 turbo. If I was reallyy going to make a full out max setup I'd have a GTX30, and a wild VVL, but that's not streetable fun to me...

This is fantastic.

Thank you much for clarifying the "grey" areas thats floated around.

I guess we'll see how long stock pistons last.

BlackZenkiS14 · 10-19-2015, 02:45 PM

Mine lasted 2 track days at 400whp. Plus a few more days of fun around town.

codyace · 10-19-2015, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dboyizmlg

That was with pump gas, AND Meth injection right?

No meth on my run, but I do have it for a safety factor

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Originally Posted by Jorgs_7

This is fantastic.

Thank you much for clarifying the "grey" areas thats floated around.

I guess we'll see how long stock pistons last.

There are guys that ran some for a LONG time. Steve K(shadows) had some good success on two cars IIRC. Some other OG guys too. Seems like most of those cars/setups have all moved on though, so it' shard to say how long it lasts.

These small turbo setups are just awesome. 120mph traps, track monsters, street sweepers...it takes one hell of a setup to really run them down!

I'd love to see what a superlight s13, maybe 2200/2300 lbs with a smaller GTX-RS sorta setup would do with a 4.9 final drive if it could find traction...it would undoubtedly be a high ten second car with a basic punch you in the throat mid range. Yum!

Dboyizmlg · 10-19-2015, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by codyace

No meth on my run, but I do have it for a safety factor

There are guys that ran some for a LONG time. Steve K(shadows) had some good success on two cars IIRC. Some other OG guys too. Seems like most of those cars/setups have all moved on though, so it' shard to say how long it lasts.

These small turbo setups are just awesome. 120mph traps, track monsters, street sweepers...it takes one hell of a setup to really run them down!

I'd love to see what a superlight s13, maybe 2200/2300 lbs with a smaller GTX-RS sorta setup would do with a 4.9 final drive if it could find traction...it would undoubtedly be a high ten second car with a basic punch you in the throat mid range. Yum!

Even better when tuned on E85, and some higher comp pistons. I think the gtx2863 would be an extremely fun car to drive!

Not sure what kind of 1/4 times a "legit" driver can trap. I'm no expert in drag racing, but I think that would be an awesome set up.

Jorgs_7 · 10-21-2015, 12:17 PM

Does anyone have a solution to the compressor "elbow" issue when using the GTX2867r? (assuming the intercooler kit isnt full custom)

Because they dont have the bolt on style, like the regular T28 turbochargers.

TheRealSy90 · 10-21-2015, 12:34 PM

Weld on cast elbow is what most people use I'd think.

e1_griego · 10-21-2015, 01:22 PM

I'm just using a silicon elbow coming out vertically which goes right to my hotpipe (redtop/t25 style) with no modification.

Simple as possible.

RurouniMidnight · 10-21-2015, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorgs_7

Does anyone have a solution to the compressor "elbow" issue when using the GTX2867r? (assuming the intercooler kit isnt full custom)

Because they dont have the bolt on style, like the regular T28 turbochargers.

They do offer the stock style bolt on compressor housing when ordering new, otherwise just a 90 degree 2" coupler should work to connect hotpipe.

codyace · 10-24-2015, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dboyizmlg

Not sure what kind of 1/4 times a "legit" driver can trap. I'm no expert in drag racing, but I think that would be an awesome set up.

Trap speed is indicative of power, not so much ability. A 350-400whp s13 should be just into the 10's at that weight with a drag setup for sure.

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Originally Posted by Jorgs_7

Does anyone have a solution to the compressor "elbow" issue when using the GTX2867r? (assuming the intercooler kit isnt full custom)

Because they dont have the bolt on style, like the regular T28 turbochargers.

Nothing custom at all. 90* 3" sillicone coupler off the inlet, and then mated to a 45* bent 3" tube that you trim to size (to filter, or to maf etc etc). THis clears all of the 'traditional' style hotside intercooler pipes.

On my personal car I was able to combine it to fit with a Cobra Maf and JWT popcharger as well, so i know there is room.

WIth that said, I'd never opt for the smaller inlet/stock style inlet. 3" or go home!

codyace · 10-24-2015, 07:20 AM

Not the best pictures, and she's dirty, but it may help give the idea

Jorgs_7 · 10-26-2015, 06:36 AM

^ Now THAT, is a strut tower brace.

Is everyones compressor inlet piping some off-the-shelf 3" bends and coupler?

fatduece · 11-09-2015, 08:07 PM

What size oil restrictor do we need for this turbo? Or is the internal restrictor enough?

BlackZenkiS14 · 11-15-2015, 04:52 PM

Well, it's been fun dudes. But I'm stepping out of the GTX2867R world. 420whp was great, but upgrades are required. Full part out soon.

derass · 11-15-2015, 06:03 PM

What are your plans? Are you sticking with the SR?

BlackZenkiS14 · 11-18-2015, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by derass

What are your plans? Are you sticking with the SR?

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p...04#post5977504

Nah, JZ.

But let me know if anyone wants a full drop in kit, with all fab work done. Selling as complete.

RurouniMidnight · 12-26-2015, 02:02 PM

Yaaaay very happy and excited that i finally get to join the GTX turbo family. I sold my .52 trim gt2871 that served me well for over a year and picked up a gtx2867. Also it will be going on a new SR that is fully built and will be using e85 on. The motor will be in and running about 2 weeks from now. Looking forward to it, should be fun ;^)

RurouniMidnight · 01-12-2016, 03:31 PM

I was able to get my motor in the car this past weekend and fire it up. Now to drive around and break it in then hopefully i can get on the dyno and see what kind of numbers it puts down ;p

Rb26kouki · 01-12-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RurouniMidnight

I was able to get my motor in the car this past weekend and fire it up. Now to drive around and break it in then hopefully i can get on the dyno and see what kind of numbers it puts down ;p

What cams will you be running

codyace · 01-12-2016, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RurouniMidnight

I was able to get my motor in the car this past weekend and fire it up. Now to drive around and break it in then hopefully i can get on the dyno and see what kind of numbers it puts down ;p

Good stuff!

One word of warning/advice though:

Get some heat wrap around that black fabric line stuff. It doens't like super high heat areas in my experience.

RurouniMidnight · 01-12-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rb26kouki

What cams will you be running

Running tomei poncams

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Originally Posted by codyace

Good stuff!

One word of warning/advice though:

Get some heat wrap around that black fabric line stuff. It doens't like super high heat areas in my experience.

Will do, thanks man!

Rb26kouki · 01-12-2016, 07:05 PM

Anyone running this turbo on a KA ?

codyace · 01-12-2016, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RurouniMidnight

Running tomei poncams

Will do, thanks man!

It's one of those things that 'shouldn't happen' but it does happen on cars that get beat on pretty good. Sucks as the black hose looks 100x better! I ended up getting the black fire hose stuff from DEI and haven't ever looked back as it works so well.

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Originally Posted by Rb26kouki

Anyone running this turbo on a KA ?

I'd be curious to this as well

Croustibat · 01-13-2016, 05:34 AM

I would not hold my breath on a KA, the exhaust turbine is on the small side for a 2.4L engine. It will be better than a T25 of course but... meh. I think a gtx30 would be much better suited (or gtx35 for serious ooomph)

Rb26kouki · 01-13-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Croustibat

I would not hold my breath on a KA, the exhaust turbine is on the small side for a 2.4L engine. It will be better than a T25 of course but... meh. I think a gtx30 would be much better suited (or gtx35 for serious ooomph)

We will see how it does I will do it within the next couple weeks

Rb26kouki · 01-13-2016, 10:23 AM

Built KA24DE (forged)

Gtx2867r .64
Tial mvs
Sard 850cc
JWT S1 cams
JWT ECU
Lighting MAF

Will update soon

RalliartRsX · 01-13-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Croustibat

I would not hold my breath on a KA, the exhaust turbine is on the small side for a 2.4L engine. It will be better than a T25 of course but... meh. I think a gtx30 would be much better suited (or gtx35 for serious ooomph)

That extra displacement is somewhat offset by how poorly the head flows compared to a S14SR for instance, so who knows. It may have similar results to the SR (or it may not)

codyace · 01-13-2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rb26kouki

Built KA24DE (forged)

Gtx2867r .64
Tial mvs
Sard 850cc
JWT S1 cams
JWT ECU
Lighting MAF

Will update soon

I can't wait man! That will be an awesome setup!!!!!

KAT-PWR · 01-13-2016, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

That extra displacement is somewhat offset by how poorly the head flows compared to a S14SR for instance, so who knows. It may have similar results to the SR (or it may not)

Do you have any data to support this? (Not trying to start a KA/SR debate)

Dboyizmlg · 01-13-2016, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rb26kouki

Built KA24DE (forged)

Gtx2867r .64
Tial mvs
Sard 850cc
JWT S1 cams
JWT ECU
Lighting MAF

Will update soon

That set up is going to suck!

Sell me that turbo, and get yourself the 3071!
Lol, just messing man, let me know when you get tired of running that turbo.
I'll be the first in line to buy it.

10-19-2015, 02:45 PM	#993
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10-24-2015, 07:20 AM	#1001
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11-15-2015, 04:52 PM	#1004
BlackZenkiS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "St. Chuck", MO Age: 38 Posts: 2,094 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Well, it's been fun dudes. But I'm stepping out of the GTX2867R world. 420whp was great, but upgrades are required. Full part out soon. __________________ -Kyle

12-26-2015, 02:02 PM	#1007
RurouniMidnight Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston TX Age: 41 Posts: 1,245 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Yaaaay very happy and excited that i finally get to join the GTX turbo family. I sold my .52 trim gt2871 that served me well for over a year and picked up a gtx2867. Also it will be going on a new SR that is fully built and will be using e85 on. The motor will be in and running about 2 weeks from now. Looking forward to it, should be fun ;^) __________________ http://nightparade.wordpress.com/ Join in on instagram @nightparade

01-12-2016, 03:31 PM	#1008
RurouniMidnight Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston TX Age: 41 Posts: 1,245 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I was able to get my motor in the car this past weekend and fire it up. Now to drive around and break it in then hopefully i can get on the dyno and see what kind of numbers it puts down ;p __________________ http://nightparade.wordpress.com/ Join in on instagram @nightparade

10-21-2015, 12:17 PM	#996
Jorgs_7 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Plymouth MN Posts: 406 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Does anyone have a solution to the compressor "elbow" issue when using the GTX2867r? (assuming the intercooler kit isnt full custom) Because they dont have the bolt on style, like the regular T28 turbochargers.

10-21-2015, 01:22 PM	#998
e1_griego Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Independence, Ore. Age: 39 Posts: 2,715 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	I'm just using a silicon elbow coming out vertically which goes right to my hotpipe (redtop/t25 style) with no modification. Simple as possible.

10-26-2015, 06:36 AM	#1002
Jorgs_7 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Plymouth MN Posts: 406 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ Now THAT, is a strut tower brace. Is everyones compressor inlet piping some off-the-shelf 3" bends and coupler?

11-09-2015, 08:07 PM	#1003
fatduece Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: hoonigay Posts: 673 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What size oil restrictor do we need for this turbo? Or is the internal restrictor enough?

11-15-2015, 06:03 PM	#1005
derass Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 36 Posts: 1,182 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What are your plans? Are you sticking with the SR?

01-12-2016, 07:05 PM	#1012
Rb26kouki Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Commerce Age: 32 Posts: 1,476 Trader Rating: (63) Feedback Score: 63 reviews	Anyone running this turbo on a KA ?

01-13-2016, 05:34 AM	#1014
Croustibat Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: France - Toulouse Age: 43 Posts: 1,851 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would not hold my breath on a KA, the exhaust turbine is on the small side for a 2.4L engine. It will be better than a T25 of course but... meh. I think a gtx30 would be much better suited (or gtx35 for serious ooomph)

01-13-2016, 10:23 AM	#1016
Rb26kouki Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Commerce Age: 32 Posts: 1,476 Trader Rating: (63) Feedback Score: 63 reviews	Built KA24DE (forged) Gtx2867r .64 Tial mvs Sard 850cc JWT S1 cams JWT ECU Lighting MAF Will update soon