The 2020 Presidential Race

[kingkilburn]

The flags in the current system mostly revolve around criminal records and court orders, people that have shown to be a danger to themselves(mental health) and/or others(credible threats on others, felony convictions, etc). Generally if you flag you already knew you shouldn't have been trying to buy a gun, and that is usually a criminal act by itself.

I like the red flag laws some places are trying that would seek to temporarily remove firearms from someone that has shown to be a danger.

Sending this stuff through the courts rather than some political appointment office I think keeps it more open and honest. This is definitely something requiring a lot of care. False reports and abuse of power should be harshly punished. You could easily ruin someone.

[kingkilburn]

So we're talking about flagging people in background checks before purchase and petitioning the court on existing ownership, if that's not clear. I know I can post some fragmented shit sometimes.

[Green Arrow]

If flagging works anything like the green/red rating system that's used here, the red flagging will be a circus. I went from like 10 green dots to like 6 red ones. Because the facts in my post hurt someone's feelings.

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

I like the red flag laws some places are trying that would seek to temporarily remove firearms from someone that has shown to be a danger.

SAY HER NAME! BREONNA TAYLOR!!!! (repeat to the end of time)

Originally Posted by Green Arrow

If flagging works anything like the green/red rating system that's used here, the red flagging will be a circus. I went from like 10 green dots to like 6 red ones. Because the facts in my post hurt someone's feelings.

Shows you what they really think about the 'unity' they preach "be like us or be exiled"

[Green Arrow]

Now when I hover over it..." You're not welcome here anymore." Wow. lol.

[zombiewolf513]

Well that's what you get for conducting the Trump Train and sharing your opinions, bigot.

[kingkilburn]

Originally Posted by Green Arrow

If flagging works anything like the green/red rating system that's used here, the red flagging will be a circus. I went from like 10 green dots to like 6 red ones. Because the facts in my post hurt someone's feelings.

Considering that the ownership of this forum is more conservative than anymore posting here you're complaining about nothing. If your rep was unwarranted it would easily be green with two mouse clicks.

[zombiewolf513]

^^^Found the cry baby

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Considering that the ownership of this forum is more conservative than anymore posting here you're complaining about nothing. If your rep was unwarranted it would easily be green with two mouse clicks.

^^^ Can confirm

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

So we're talking about flagging people in background checks before purchase and petitioning the court on existing ownership, if that's not clear. I know I can post some fragmented shit sometimes.

Red flags prior to gun owner ship is kinda alread 4473 form.

Its the government running a background check on a firearm purchase. Even for me i beleve all gun purchase transactions should run thru an ffl/4473 approval.

As for red flag laws like others above have posted, are concerning with already firearm owners, hurt feelings, assholes and revenge will be free for all.


Same as people filing false childabuse/danger claims. In those case dcf doesnt showup kick open ur door qnd take ur kids no questions asked. They "investigate".

Accountablity needs tobe on the otherside of this..false filings should be followed with legal actions... freely

That i would be more open to the idea. But just anyone can call say whatever they please, and bammmm, your rights violated.

I would go so far as saying you would see hella amounts of "breanna taylor" style deaths where cops showup, no knock bullshit kick open the door and a shoot out occurs. Just for the fact the homeowner has no knowledge of this.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by Phlip

^^^ Can confirm

Dont beleve this....

[kingkilburn]

Personally I think false rape accusations should come with the same penalties as a rape conviction, so you can guess how I feel about all these abuses of the authority of the system.

From what I've seen with these gun removal cases there's a whole process that appears to err on the side of not removing guns even temporarily. I think the general "defund the police"(which is really about radically reforming their roll to leave them with just police work to do) trend will make that process more accountable and transparent.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Personally I think false rape accusations should come with the same penalties as a rape conviction, so you can guess how I feel about all these abuses of the authority of the system.

From what I've seen with these gun removal cases there's a whole process that appears to err on the side of not removing guns even temporarily. I think the general "defund the police"(which is really about radically reforming their roll to leave them with just police work to do) trend will make that process more accountable and transparent.

Agreeded apon on rape allegerations....

I wonder whats the "deciding factor" in red flag court approval?

And what would deem after the fact everything is "ok"

We all know goverment is there in 1 second to take away but its almost impossible to get it back.

Hell i have a good friend that was involved in a home invasion self defense shooting. 5 yrs later he still hasnt been given back his firearm he used to defend himself and family. He was never tried/no charges pressed was 100% justjfied. I know 1 case isnt basis for ALL but its what i see from government over n over. They take rights, never give them back.

-friend said at this point he wishes he used a hipoint instead of his custom.glock34 lol

[kingkilburn]

I don't think these red flag seizures are treated like civil asset forfeitures. If the cops take your shit assume they sold it onto the grey market or gave it to an informant. You don't want it back.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

I don't think these red flag seizures are treated like civil asset forfeitures. If the cops take your shit assume they sold it onto the grey market or gave it to an informant. You don't want it back.

Was more or less sayn if the did confiscate your firearms, im sure it would be an interesting process on getn them back. Once proven you are no "threat" i just see it all as too many ifs and whats.... scary to me


We can discuss these ideas with intelligence, i see this as biging to small for the democrats.....they want way more then what were discussing

[Future240]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Dont beleve this....

Whether you believe it or not, I also can confirm.

[zombiewolf513]

Lol at the idiot threatening to send my comments in this thread to the USMC HAHAHAHAHA

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by Green Arrow

Your geriatric candidate literally had 10 people at his " you know, the thing"

I can't even imagine the levels of smug on Elizabeth Warren's face.

[RalliartRsX]

......can trump even afford a recount ?

Its not close enough for states to pick up the tab and it seems like burning cash knowing full well recounts sway only 1-200 votes....not a swing of 10-100k

[KA24DESOneThree]

I'm buying more guns because I don't have enough guns. I'll have to get property in AZ or NV for what I really want, though.

I also believe the Dems will attempt more "common sense" gun control rather than addressing the root causes of both drug violence and mass shootings. One's easy and can be packaged and sold to blue-leaning city-dwellers, one's hard and has to be packaged and sold to everyone.

s14, have your friend call a gun rights attorney. $2k and he'll have his gun back.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

......can trump even afford a recount ?

Its not close enough for states to pick up the tab and it seems like burning cash knowing full well recounts sway only 1-200 votes....not a swing of 10-100k

Of course. Like Mexico did for the wall he will simply make the democrats pay for it.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

I'm buying more guns because I don't have enough guns. I'll have to get property in AZ or NV for what I really want, though.

I also believe the Dems will attempt more "common sense" gun control rather than addressing the root causes of both drug violence and mass shootings. One's easy and can be packaged and sold to blue-leaning city-dwellers, one's hard and has to be packaged and sold to everyone.

s14, have your friend call a gun rights attorney. $2k and he'll have his gun back.

Yea. He said for $2k they can keep it and hill buy another.

M107a1 would sure be nice...reachn out and touching(even though .338 would be better)

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

......can trump even afford a recount ?

Its not close enough for states to pick up the tab and it seems like burning cash knowing full well recounts sway only 1-200 votes....not a swing of 10-100k

He asking for donations and gonna hold campaign style rallies for support on recounts...


I get a text message atleast twice aday from his team asking...

[Future240]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

Yea. He said for $2k they can keep it and hill buy another.

M107a1 would sure be nice...reachn out and touching(even though .338 would be better)

https://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=181481&page=12

[RalliartRsX]

Actually if you look at the fine print

On the donation page, first highlighted by the Journal, there is a disclaimer that says 50 percent of any contribution will go toward the general election campaign debt retirement and 50 percent for the campaign's recount account.

:smh:

https://secure.winred.com/djt/electi...fund_teamtrump

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

He asking for donations and gonna hold campaign style rallies for support on recounts...


I get a text message atleast twice aday from his team asking...

So, no thats "50%" incorrect
1) Why should American people support his frivolous lawsuits?? Isn't he some sort of Billionaire?? Why can't he pay for it himself?? Didn't his campaign raise a boat load of money already??
2) Read above

Fine print state atleast 50 % will go to running down campaign debt. And with how shittily the campaign funds were managed on trump side, for every $1 you spent, the return would be in the negatives.....so yeah, goodluck with that lol!

[!Zar!]

Originally Posted by Green Arrow

Your geriatric candidate literally had 10 people at his " you know, the thing"... Trump had millions attend his events this campaign season...

Know how I know you don't believe in Covid?

[RalliartRsX]

P.S

People who support trump
- Fuck! Look at all those maskless people supporting trumps departure. Dispicable!

trump announces rally
- Fuck yeah dude! We in! No masks! Us yelling "trump trump trump!!" Fuck your feelings!!!" Herd immunity!! Rarr rarrrrrr rarrrr reeeehhh reehhh reehhhhh!!!

Let that sink in....

[RalliartRsX]

So where is the evidence again?? I guess they are still fabricating the evidence ands just need more time to make it.......seem....legit??

They got 21 days to come up with something.........or well, atleast get the paperwork right

[!Zar!]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

Lol at the idiot threatening to send my comments in this thread to the USMC HAHAHAHAHA

For being a Marine, you're not all that sharp. No wonder why they're still saying, "We're Looking for a Few Good Men."