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Old 10-23-2020, 05:28 PM   #2401
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Oooo them?s fighting? words!

One diSTINKtion is it doesn?t smell like shit outside everywhere here. Other than that, you got me.

I wish they?d just split California into two states. Draw a line south/east from Santa Barbara to Yosemite that excludes Bakersfield and I?d be happy



That would be hilarious. Just have a little buzzer that sounds when things they say are false.

Yea either by the moderator or the Candidates... theres no reason for this not to happen and i think it will move this way. Theres just to much shit recorded, filmed "on the record".
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Yea either by the moderator or the Candidates... theres no reason for this not to happen and i think it will move this way. Theres just to much shit recorded, filmed "on the record".
I like the idea of having two moderators. We all know they are biased, so just come out with it and have one Pro GOP and one Pro DNC Moderator.
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Either or. I just want facts presented at the debate... not ohh look it up lager or post it on ur website..... pull it up on a screen, show the source and qouted statement. So theres no out of context, no i didnt say that or i didnt do that.... just straight proof and facts.

The 2min qnd mic cut off worked awesomely. Many thought that would hang trump as it wold make him look foolish... but instead i think it hurt biden... specially towards the end of the debate qs he was allowed to talk longer he was studdering, stumbling qnd have a few mix ups. Not huge gaffes but enough to show his lack of stringn together off the cuff dialog.

There were a few points where i thought trump could of pushed harder on some points but missed and allowed biden to cruise past.

Yes im a trump voter but open minded in the debate i see what biden wants but in order todo it you have to raise taxes/ move away from fossil fuels and thats gonna kill his votes..

Transparency is what we all want!
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Either or. I just want facts presented at the debate... not ohh look it up lager or post it on ur website..... pull it up on a screen, show the source and qouted statement. So theres no out of context, no i didnt say that or i didnt do that.... just straight proof and facts.

The 2min qnd mic cut off worked awesomely. Many thought that would hang trump as it wold make him look foolish... but instead i think it hurt biden... specially towards the end of the debate qs he was allowed to talk longer he was studdering, stumbling qnd have a few mix ups. Not huge gaffes but enough to show his lack of stringn together off the cuff dialog.

There were a few points where i thought trump could of pushed harder on some points but missed and allowed biden to cruise past.

Yes im a trump voter but open minded in the debate i see what biden wants but in order todo it you have to raise taxes/ move away from fossil fuels and thats gonna kill his votes..

Transparency is what we all want!
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Either or. I just want facts presented at the debate... not ohh look it up lager or post it on ur website..... pull it up on a screen, show the source and qouted statement. So theres no out of context, no i didnt say that or i didnt do that.... just straight proof and facts.

The 2min qnd mic cut off worked awesomely. Many thought that would hang trump as it wold make him look foolish... but instead i think it hurt biden... specially towards the end of the debate qs he was allowed to talk longer he was studdering, stumbling qnd have a few mix ups. Not huge gaffes but enough to show his lack of stringn together off the cuff dialog.

There were a few points where i thought trump could of pushed harder on some points but missed and allowed biden to cruise past.

Yes im a trump voter but open minded in the debate i see what biden wants but in order todo it you have to raise taxes/ move away from fossil fuels and thats gonna kill his votes..

Transparency is what we all want!
Really nice to read posts without namecalling and I agree mostly.

Biden was walking a tightrope rope of fucking his words up but did just enough to keep the shit afloat.

Trump I thought was more composed but took some L?s when it comes to immigration and race relations failing to acknowledge and outline a path forward for minorities and why they should vote for him doesn?t help imo.

A good debate that I think proved what most if not already knew about both candidates.

Also if you are undecided at this point and not looking for a check from a focus group I don’t know what to tell you.
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Trump I thought was more composed but took some L?s when it comes to immigration and race relations failing to acknowledge and outline a path forward for minorities and why they should vote for him doesn?t help imo.
Trump clearly laid out how he's meeting with anyone that'll meet with him, pushing forward THEIR plans, and getting it done. Prison Reform, First Start, Platinum Plan...

How did Joe make $11,031,309 in 2017?
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Either or. I just want facts presented at the debate... not ohh look it up lager or post it on ur website..... pull it up on a screen, show the source and qouted statement. So theres no out of context, no i didnt say that or i didnt do that.... just straight proof and facts.

The 2min qnd mic cut off worked awesomely. Many thought that would hang trump as it wold make him look foolish... but instead i think it hurt biden... specially towards the end of the debate qs he was allowed to talk longer he was studdering, stumbling qnd have a few mix ups. Not huge gaffes but enough to show his lack of stringn together off the cuff dialog.

There were a few points where i thought trump could of pushed harder on some points but missed and allowed biden to cruise past.

Yes im a trump voter but open minded in the debate i see what biden wants but in order todo it you have to raise taxes/ move away from fossil fuels and thats gonna kill his votes..

Transparency is what we all want!
I can appreciate this post

But I would like to make one note; in order for him to do anything, the Dems need the senate. Biden presidency with GOP controlled house and senate, is just going to be land locked for 4 years

What I don't get, is why we can't train the folks and transition big oil to renewable?? If proper thought was put in, it could work!
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What I don't get, is why we can't train the folks and transition big oil to renewable?? If proper thought was put in, it could work!
You gonna make your tires out of hemp?
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You do realize you can still harvest oil, but at a lesser rates to fulfill product needs (tires, jet fuel) and still transition to renewable energy to power every else right?? Right??

The world as a whole will NEVER remove it's dependence on crude, but there is nothing that stops innovation to lower our dependence.......

But please, continue to put words into my mouth, make ignorant assumptions and remain 1 dimensional in your thought process.....
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Because you fail to read again, like I mentioned at the end of my text you quoted;

If proper thought was put in, it could all work! That means, what I posted above; you can have your cake and eat it as well....
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If proper thought was put in, it could all work!
Nothing makes me want to commit to a $100 Trillion 'plan' that upends everything, like a 'it could work bro.'

Don't come crying for a universal debt forgiveness plan when youre trying to power your city with potatos and the last of the pennies from your artificial coin shortages
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OK................

Why do you constantly pull shit out of thin air?? What 100 Trillion dollar plan??

What the fuck are you talking about!?!?!

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n August, Biden announced a $2 trillion, four-year climate plan designed to steer energy policy away from coddling Big Oil and toward bolstering green energy. He’s outlined several energy policies he’d pursue if elected, including reducing carbon emissions and creating 10 million jobs by building out a green energy infrastructure. The financing would come from a combination of corporate income taxes and government stimulus funds. "Joe is about saying, we're going to invest that in renewable energy," said running mate Senator Kamala Harris during Wednesday night's vice presidential debate. "It's going to be about the creation of millions of jobs. We will achieve net zero emissions by 2050, carbon neutral by 2035. Joe has a plan."
How does any of that sound bad??
1) Add jobs - check
2) Tax big boy corp - check
3) Reduce emission - check

Why do you always post wrong, inaccurate and just straight up bullshit, stuff??
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zombie, please point to me this "100" trillion dollar plan. YOu cannot even tell me where you got that info from, any info on the plan, or what it entails.......much less the fact that its NOT 100 trillion, but 2 over multiple years....

And how the fuck does it upend everything??
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But I would like to make one note; in order for him to do anything, the Dems need the senate. Biden presidency with GOP controlled house and senate, is just going to be land locked for 4 years



What I don't get, is why we can't train the folks and transition big oil to renewable?? If proper thought was put in, it could work!
You do realize plastic, rubber, and pretty much every synthetic material come from oil... Right?
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trump claims it's 100 trillion but the amount is up to a lot of speculation. 100 is likely an exaggeration but 2 is maybe unrealistic.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/ho...new-deal-cost/
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oh well it sounds good
it must be good DERRRRP
It costed $2T to write everyone a $1200 check. How the fuck do you think youre going to do ANY of that 'planned' bullshit on $2T??? Other than writing the government a blank check to destroy more industries, raising the cost of practically everything. Where do you think that 2T is going to go to? (Hint: big industry). Then after that 4 years then what? 3T a year? 10T a year? Until 2050? No thanks. Ill take fracking for liquid gold instead. Lets not forget he ALSO wants 'biden care' aka another blank check to the government. Shit, not to mention this scamdemic shit tbeyre pushing on us, costing trillions. Wtf are you smoking??? Really, i want to know.

-tax corps
Great so theyll raise prices, lower wages, cut hours, lay off employees and move to china. Biden said he was going to raise EVERYONES taxes multiple fucking times. Where tf do you think "government stimulus funds" come from? Also still waiting on how a government employee and a teacher made $11M in 2017.

-add jobs
See "tax corps" in addition to dismantling hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs dependent on the oil industry. #LearnToCode inbound. Shove that up your ass.

-reduce emmissions
Talk to china, india, and california about reducing their emmissions first, then we'll talk. Otherwise, do you have any idea the amount of carbon emmissions it would take to even accomplish such insane plans?

Spending tens of trillions to rebuild everything in sight is going to creat a hell of a lot of emmissions, and for what? To steep ourselves in debt for barely functional, unsustainable, unrecyclable, fake renewable energy junk that needs to be completely replaced every 5 years? Thats a hard no for me, dawg.

Still waiting on your answers about benghazi and the cdc. I know you cant though, all you can do is recite article headlines and AOCs half baked marxist poetry as the unequivacle truth.

The guy has been in government for 47 years and now all of a sudden you think hes got an actual plan to save the world? Last time he had a plan, he encarcerated blacks with the 94 crime bill and put kids in cages under obama. You really want to go with this guys 'plans'?

You must be smoking crack with Hunter Biden

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What I don't get, is why we can't train the folks and transition big oil to renewable?? If proper thought was put in, it could work!
2 things: todays jobs, and education


Most people in the states where fossil fuels are huge are not willing to give up their jobs. I beleve its only 1/3 would would be retained. Just how it is. No 40+ yr old rough neck whos whole family generations been in the oil industry wants to see it closed and trained to run a computer controlled windmill.

Education.... yes a more greener less earth impqct is the way togo. But the technology is not there yet for such a large scale. With out transparency and education, the people in fracting/oil industry wont give up on what they do.
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Shutting off the US oil industry isn't going to shut off the global demand for oil. It's only exporting another industry, like manufacturing, to China. Increasing our dependence on the worst offenders of pollution- who will then pollute even more. Which'll just be enriching them while impoverishing ourselves.



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b-but Biden said he has a plans? and he like listens to like super smart hivemind scientisms tho? plus he's like le good guy? so youre like super duper wrongses.
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A LESSON ON SYSTEMATIC RACISM FOR THE NON-BELIEVERS

https://youtu.be/t0YcDo19Luc

And just another reason why Trump will lose this election.
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https://youtu.be/t0YcDo19Luc

And just another reason why Trump will lose this election.
If you don't watch the news you're not informed, if you do watch the news you're misinformed.
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A LESSON ON SYSTEMATIC RACISM FOR THE NON-BELIEVERS

https://youtu.be/t0YcDo19Luc

And just another reason why Trump will lose this election.
Systemic Racism doesn't exist.

People are protesting because they are morons.

People are rioting because they are uncivil pieces of shit.

Go watch the video. Dude charges the cops with a knife while the cops. Have guns drawn, are running backwards and yelling to stop and drop the knife.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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The protests will just make more people vote trump :shrug:
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I predict a close race. 270/252. +/- 5

I still don't like either one for the record.
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I predict a close race. 270/252. +/- 5

I still don't like either one for the record.
That's ironic because the margin for error is 5 right now - Biden somehow leading the polls. If Biden does win, we're all fucked [but COVID will mysteriously disappear making all of you dumb fucks who go shopping on Black Friday pretty pumped].
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