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Old 07-12-2010, 11:33 AM   #151
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it would appear that the tray isn't level and sports a reverse rake (front is higher than the rear)

what clips are u using to clip onto the molding over the rear 1/4 windows? the same as me? hrmmmmm

i still adore my stretch kit!

i might* be selling my rack setup. not in college anymore so i'm not taking my bike to campus . i'm still riding bikes though!
q38 clips or w.e same as you and if you sell your rack i got dips on the stretch kit and fairing just saying
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q38 clips or w.e same as you and if you sell your rack i got dips on the stretch kit and fairing just saying
doubtful that i will part out the fairing, but the stretch kit , 2 steelhead trays, and pounder hound can be parted. i'll let u know buddy!
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:05 PM   #153
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doubtful that i will part out the fairing, but the stretch kit , 2 steelhead trays, and pounder hound can be parted. i'll let u know buddy!
i need a fairing and another trule tray so bad but i hate to spend money of a rack for my car when its not running right now lol

i wanted to be a hella flush miami but with a broken flywheel my time line got pushed further to get the car done
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for the measurments i just adjusted the q towers on the crossbars untill they clamped down good and tight
heres a picture of were the q clips hook on too (q38 clips)
Has anyone had problems with the towers not clamping down snug? I'm using q38 clips mounted to the roof. The guy I bought the clips from gave me two types of rubber pads: thin type " a" and thick type "d". Nothing I've done seems to make clamp down tight. Are the pads the problem? Any suggestions?


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Kouki (if it matters)
Used yakima towers with no lock cores
Q38 clips mounted directly to the roof.
Rubber pads thin and thick : type A/ D (as seen on the bottom of the pad)

Thx in advance
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:21 PM   #155
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Has anyone had problems with the towers not clamping down snug? I'm using q38 clips mounted to the roof. The guy I bought the clips from gave me two types of rubber pads: thin type " a" and thick type "d". Nothing I've done seems to make clamp down tight. Are the pads the problem? Any suggestions?


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Used yakima towers with no lock cores
Q38 clips mounted directly to the roof.
Rubber pads thin and thick : type A/ D (as seen on the bottom of the pad)

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a u need to move the tower further in on the bar or b u need to adjust the screw so it will clamp tighter
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I moved the clamps and adjusted the screw tensior but hasn't worked. are ur pads the same thickness all around?
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:26 AM   #157
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u need to move the clamps WIDER* so there is an angle to the towers, rather than just sitting on your roof. my pads are like within an inch of my molding.
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I clipped to the molding and moved the clamps wider. This has worked pretty well. I'll keep messing around to see if it work jus as well using the clips on the roof. I've also asked the guy to send me (2) more "A" pads. We'll see.
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I clipped to the molding and moved the clamps wider. This has worked pretty well. I'll keep messing around to see if it work jus as well using the clips on the roof. I've also asked the guy to send me (2) more "A" pads. We'll see.
yea i have used "A" pads on all 3 of the cars that have used the yakima setup and so far i think those are the best. If u have the clips for the roof, i can't see how they will clip to your molding. I have different clips than you as i just reused the ones i had off my old integra sedan
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Sweet, that reinforces that my rack isn't working because I don't have all A pads. I guess the q38 clips work well on both the molding and the roof. One of the other members (black kouki with tire rack) is also using the same setup.
Have u tried using the q11 clips on the roof? Or have u always used it on the molding?
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Sweet, that reinforces that my rack isn't working because I don't have all A pads. I guess the q38 clips work well on both the molding and the roof. One of the other members (black kouki with tire rack) is also using the same setup.
Have u tried using the q11 clips on the roof? Or have u always used it on the molding?
i've only tried them on my molding. from just visual comparison, i do not think the clip will grab where the roof is...not sure. never tried.

my rack is currently off the s14 and on my camry
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:48 PM   #162
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i've only tried them on my molding. from just visual comparison, i do not think the clip will grab where the roof is...not sure. never tried.

my rack is currently off the s14 and on my camry
pics of car w/o rack plz have to see this
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pics of car w/o rack plz have to see this
haha i've had pictures floating around rackless. i only had my rack up when i was riding that day. i prefer to try and get as good of gas mileage other times lol

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Old 07-22-2010, 10:13 PM   #164
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Anybody know if a beach cruiser will fit on these racks?
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Old 07-23-2010, 02:53 AM   #165
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Anybody know if a beach cruiser will fit on these racks?
yes it will
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Anyone get a noticeable loss of MPG with the addition of a roof rack or hitch? I currently own an IS300 (saving up for S13), and as soon as I threw the roof rack on- my MPG went down about 5-7mpg with two DH bikes. Each of my bikes weigh 40-50lbs each.

My plan was to run a hitch on the S13- but it looks like very few have done it, so info is limited. Most class 1 hitches have a tongue weight of 200lbs with a 1 1/4'' receiver for cars. Figuring two DH bikes will weigh around 70-115 lbs both plus the weight of the bike rack- it would already be near the maximum limit for the tongue weight. Put that together with a car that has stiff suspension, the bikes would be bouncing around stressing the hitch quite a bit. But from seeing the photos of a 240 towing a street bike on a trailer, I guess DH mountain bikes wouldn't be too bad.

BTW NSR250, That's a sick bike!
No shit your mileage will suck, it has nothing to do weight but the now giant "parachute" you have on the roof.

Also, do you know what a ton is? A SAE Ton is 2,000lbs.

That means your two Bikes that way 115lbs are no where near close enough to maxing out a class 1 hitch.
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Hooray for craigslist. Just picked up my towers and crossbars today for cheap.

Also since the measurement info for S13's hasn't been listed yet, I figure I'll help out. (sorry, but I don't have the measurement info for S14's)



S13 Coupe (uses Q38 clips F&R): M1=38.125" M2=4" M3=38.25" M4=16"
S13 Hatch (uses Q11 clips F&R): M1=40.125" M2=3" M3=40.5" M4=18"

If you're using a stretch kit on an S13 coupe only the rear measurements change... M3=38.75" M4=30"
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Hooray for craigslist. Just picked up my towers and crossbars today for cheap.

Also since the measurement info for S13's hasn't been listed yet, I figure I'll help out. (sorry, but I don't have the measurement info for S14's)


S13 Coupe (uses Q38 clips F&R): M1=38.125" M2=4" M3=38.25" M4=16"
S13 Hatch (uses Q11 clips F&R): M1=40.125" M2=3" M3=40.5" M4=18"

If you're using a stretch kit on an S13 coupe only the rear measurements change... M3=38.75" M4=30"
great info. when i bought the rack for my integra sedan a couple years back the manual was actually tailored specifically for the integra and gave me this roll up measuring tape to do measurements. To be honest, as long as it's secure and clears your sunroof (if u have one) that's all that matters.

my rack was setup (on my integra) so that when it slid back it was within an inch of hitting the rear crossbar , based on yakima's spec.

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No shit your mileage will suck, it has nothing to do weight but the now giant "parachute" you have on the roof.

Also, do you know what a ton is? A SAE Ton is 2,000lbs.

That means your two Bikes that way 115lbs are no where near close enough to maxing out a class 1 hitch.
yea the amount of turbulent air caused by the cross bars and bikes is certainly enough to notice a 5mpg drop,...at least.
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I think its funny when someone gets their bike rack installed and NOT ONCE have I seen a bike or for that matter anyting else on there.

they look ok but here are my thoughts.

240sx + bike rack withought bike = TRENDY+ DIE and NO RIP... MY
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All i want to know is how there can be 6 pages on a roof rack?
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Ohh snap.. I wasnt too sure i wanted roof racks cause while i like em i dont have a bike or boards.. if anything i'd use em for this.. does he have a set up on how to attach a set of rubbers? I'll be hauling 15x6's
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...does he have a set up on how to attach a set of rubbers?...
Umm... really? You can't figure it out by
A) looking at the picture
B) Just trying it out

Just saying... it's kind of like tying a Christmas tree to your roof. No one right way to do it, just figure it out so it's strapped down secure. He obviously just used a bunch of ratcheting pull straps and bungee cords to secure it to the rack... pretty straight-forward.


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I think its funny when someone gets their bike rack installed and NOT ONCE have I seen a bike or for that matter anyting else on there.

they look ok but here are my thoughts.

240sx + bike rack withought bike = TRENDY+ DIE and NO RIP... MY
Yeah, your right... it's a shame that no one gets any use out of them and just have them for mad-tyte-hellaflush-jdm-drift-points.


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yeah i was about to say.... i havent seen anything other then bikes, cargo totes, and rubbers on the racks. what are you on>?

I'd lke to see a set with snowboards on them. Ive seen subie's like that
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I'm sure I'll be able to accommodate that next season. Roads seem to be well taken care of out here even in winter so I can still make it to the slopes even in the S13 as long as it's not gonna snow that day. Otherwise the rack and gear go onto the CR-V.

Edit: but if you look closely the second pic there has a board with the luggage box.
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yeah i was about to say.... i havent seen anything other then bikes, cargo totes, and rubbers on the racks. what are you on>?

I'd lke to see a set with snowboards on them. Ive seen subie's like that
tell me if yal can see this video

fast forward to 1:19
some car meet video thing

if u can't see the video then...here, a simple picture. washed it after returning from the slopes!
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So far I've only spent $83 on my rack. Craigslist finds and whatnot. I still could have saved a little more if I had gotten different crossbars, but they were brand new, so I jumped on 'em... also got an older style bike tray that sits level.



All that and I've got room for a board mount or a spare set of rear tires for the track. Once it goes on I doubt if this will ever come off of the car.
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dude these racks are loud. i cant imagine how loud it is with a bike, or surfboard on top. does that fairing really cut the noise down significantly?
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