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03-10-2016, 07:42 AM | #122 |
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Voting for the classic Jew socialist?
he's gonna liberate ur weed and stuff man. Social Justice for the win dawg. On a more serious note, Militarily who do you think will be best in terms of policy etc. I'm not part of the military nor have I been, but it is a pretty big deal and a big chunk of our national expenditure. None of them really have any military background now, and I haven't heard of their positions,so I was just wondering. Also Foreign policy wise, none of them seem very diplomatic or aloof. I have heard them mention china, which is probably this countries greatest enemy/rival, but have not gone into it in detail. All the repub candidates seem pretty similar, I just don't really agree with the deport everyone rhetoric they seem to spout. They should just deport terrorists and people on welfare hahaha. I don't want them to deport all the people I work with. I know they're all full of shit, and couldn't possibly hope to deport all illegals, but it's the thought that counts man. Trump is the ultimate troll, and it is very sad that people get so serious about him. Like "he is a racist" or " he is the next hitler!" and I'm all like "you realize he's just fucking with you right?". It's funny to watch all the SJW's react to his showmanship. I do respect Trump's political ability and charisma man. He responds and politicizes quite adeptly. not voting, it's just interesting to see what will happen. |
03-11-2016, 08:01 PM | #123 | |
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Trump is a troll, but in a matter that shouldn't be fucked with. It was already convoluted as shit. I'm a troll and like to watch the e-world burn, but reality is a different matter. I don't see him doing much good for the country. I don't see him being an appropriate representative of our country. I don't see much good coming from a guy who has never held office before, regardless of how much money or "success" they have. I don't trust him. He entered in the right election year, though...his competitors make it easy for him. I think we "lose" no matter who we have end up in office.
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03-11-2016, 08:38 PM | #124 |
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I'm under the assumption that no matter who's in office, shi* will stay the same. That is the way politics goes, and that is the way people are. I can tell you this from my experience in both government and millitary.
That being said, I just go for the JFK of the appropriate era; and it sure as hell won't be Trump LOL. |
03-12-2016, 10:52 AM | #127 |
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keep seeing these online, people putting trump hats on anime girls, it's pretty funny
apparently the trump rally in chicago was attacked by mobs of SJW's and black people. I wonder why he thought it was a good idea to have a rally in that shithole? seems real dumb, unless he has ulterior motives for it, and wanted that to happen for publicity sake to make the opposition look foolish, the problem with that is that the media condemned him for it. Seems like a lack of foresight on his part. You'd think he would have thought of avoiding what is literally the most leftish shithole in america. I'm kinda doubting his ability to forsee issues, he seemed smarter than that to me I guess |
03-12-2016, 11:30 AM | #128 |
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The irony is as much as everyone cries about GOP racism, I don't recall anyone ever trashing and rioting at one of Obama's rallies in any of the past election. Left Wing loves free speech and sharing ideas and everyone's equal right up until they don't agree with you. Trump had a huge turn out at that rally to support him. He truly is drawing more people from outside the normal GOP supporters. This is why the Right Wing is so pissed off at him. He's not a Ted Cruz evangelical conservative. He likely doesn't give two fucks about abortion, gay marriage and prayer in schools. He's not advocating paying down our debt either and isn't demanding broad budget cuts. His big points are - Fuck the Middle East Equal trading agreements (taxes, tariffs and regulations) Fuck Immigration Now before y'all get butt hurt, your beloved Japan has had this stance for 40 years. |
03-12-2016, 06:01 PM | #129 | |
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-Ethical trading agreements -We are all immigrants, this is the land of opportunity. I don't want just ANYBODY coming here, but people should be afforded the opportunity to provide a better life for themselves and their loved ones, given the fact that they learn the proper ways and avenues of doing so regardless of where their country of origin may be.
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03-12-2016, 09:52 PM | #130 |
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^^^^ You missed a zero after that 2 there, buddy. The percent of radical Muslims is estimated at between 15 and 25%, and that's about what it is for Christians too, as evidenced by the bible thumping fuckface zealots in this country that make up the extreme right wing of the Republican party. No, 20% aren't on the battlefield or blowing themselves up but you don't have to shoot at someone to be part of the problem. The scourge of radicalized religion is a very real problem and will continue to be until we rid ourselves of those sort of people.
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03-12-2016, 10:20 PM | #131 | |
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Yeah, them pesky suicide bombing Evangelicals.... The Christian Right are not even in the same universe as "radical" Islam. |
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03-12-2016, 10:22 PM | #132 |
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^^^ Bro, so fucking true! Religion is a catalyst for doom when its your parties number one platform!!! 15 years and counting in the military and my worse fear is a President with a bible in the right hand and a gun in the left spouting out scriptures as if Jesus was here yesterday! I believe people use religion as means to divide, rather heal or talk! I feel people use race to divide, as well as economical stature. Without accountability the Country is lost, its a slave to the dollar! Why vote for someone who has whored himself for the biggest false idol, but Hillary or Sanders ? Damn, damn, damn Gina! John Stewart save me!
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03-13-2016, 01:25 AM | #133 | ||
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Not trying to take away from atrocities committed to innocent people or get into any conspiracy theory bullshit, but Islamic extremism is pretty exaggerated; ~106,000 "muslim" terrorists worldwide 205 million people in the middle east = 0.000517% 1.6 billion Muslims in the world = .0000663% (rounded up for you) 5 out of the past 12 Nobel prize winners have been Muslim Most of those illiterate idiots don't even want to come here and kill us. They just want us to get out of there and stop killing people and putting weapons and power in the wrong people's hands. We've killed hundreds of thousands of INNOCENT people in the middle east. There are definitely a lot of em that fucking hate our guts though, lol. Hope I don't see any of them wearin my kick ass 4th of July shirt from Old Navy. This leads back to the "you don't have to shoot at someone to be part of the problem" statement you made. This got OT so here's a sneak peak to my new fan fiction series "Talladega Nights 2: The Ballad of Donny Trumpy" Quote:
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03-13-2016, 09:17 AM | #134 |
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I really don't feel like fighting another war, especially on Trump's behalf
And for the most part, Arabs and middle easterners are awesome people. Its very sick to demonize a billion people over the actions of the few. Hell i dont feel any safer in this country than i do over there. |
03-13-2016, 09:37 AM | #135 | |
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seriously, there isn't really any other religion that has "kill all unbelievers", written in it's holy books and taken so seriously. Everyone else that comes here assimilates quite well, Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Matej, etc. Problem with Muslims is they are incompatible with Western Civilization for their belief in Theocracy. It wasn't to long ago that there was a big contention in Dallas over muslims thinking Shariah law takes precedent over actual western laws. A lot of the allure of Trump is that people are so tired of Social Justice propaganda and political correctness that they will be drawn to anyone who doesn't shit out their mouth about "absolute tolerance", which is something the muslim religion in itself does not promote. look at how much more of a shithole europe(it was already pretty shitty)has become as a result of these people, do you want the amount of rape to go up 7000% like it did in Sweden? Do you want there to be literal neighborhoods of only Muslims that operate outside the jurisdiction of Law, and that normal people aren't welcome to enter? We don't promote the creation of weird cult compounds here in america, and I'm pretty sure 90% of people are uncomfortable with cult members, Muslims act virtually the same, so I don't understand why people are so amicable to Salafists. Maybe everyone just likes to feel all warm and fuzzy inside I guess Also you realize how much bullshit we are involved with in the middle east? We are constantly trying to appease them when in reality they should try to appease us, we are the 1 world power, why are we paying them for nothing? We get very little from our involvement there. |
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03-13-2016, 09:52 AM | #136 | |
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Uh, thanks for the ignorance. You do realize Donald and Bernie are the only candidates saying fuck the Middle East right? And by that, I mean, leave the dictators in charge, let them kill each and not send troops. If you feel safer there, please, by all means move there. Unless of course you mean you felt safer there chilling on a US military base on Gatar or some shit. |
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03-13-2016, 10:28 AM | #137 |
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As if your vote even counts. Who ever the next president is has already been decided and this little show trump Hilary and Bernie are putting on is just to please you.
Trump doesn't stand a chance. He's there to do exactly what he's doing. Put on a show. Just like Bernie has won a couple states popular vote but the democratic delegates have over turned the desicion giving Hilary the win. think about that HE WON THE POPULAR VOTE but still lost the state..... Yeah your vote means a whole lot. Also Hilary is a criminal and I don't like / trust her but she will be the next president no doubt. Trump on the other hand is a gamble. Can you imagine that guy negotiating a nuclear deal with North Korea? lol itd either be great or we'd be getting bombed of his mouth getting out of hand. Honestly in my opinion they are both crooks and neither of them deserve to run the country but I don't vote any way because I know it doesn't do anything But gun to my head had to vote? I guess I'd go with trump. I have a really bad gut feeling about Hilary. |
03-13-2016, 12:45 PM | #138 | |
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This isn't new or anything. We had a president for 8 years who lost the popular vote in 2000. |
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03-13-2016, 01:45 PM | #139 | ||
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I also remember the Thanksgiving Day Parade bombing that killed 40 people, as well as when they machine gunned and suicide bombed a Marilyn Manson concert. Remember all the kids those crazy Baptist killed last year for eating meat on Friday during lent? What about the time those wacky Methodists put people in cages and drowned them in pools for not taking holy communion? We seriously need to stop them!! Quote:
Bill Clinton? Bill was elected with only 43% of America supporting him. We work off electoral votes, not raw populist numbers - thank God. Of the only thing that mattered was populist votes then you've basically acknowledged the only thing that matters is the big cities - fuck the rest of America. |
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03-13-2016, 01:55 PM | #140 |
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Huh? You don't have any intrinsic right to pick a party's candidate. The Dems and GOP can easily just announce who their candidate is and that would be that. Their selection process is generous enough to allow party members voice who they want to represent the party. The party can easily overrule. It's feared that the Republicans may do just that when it comes to Trump. Many traditional conservatives hate him. The National Standard did an entire issue blasting him. The problem is, it would be the death of the party if they over rule his nomination and pick Cruz. Trump running independent guaranties a Dem win. Bernie is to left of center to win a national election. Sure he's genuine, but he's ideas are out there. Even if he wins he'd be a lame duck president as No one in congress with support him. Dems will turn on him fearing losing their seats at home to republican rivals. Bernie wants to raise taxes 8-60% on EVERYONE. He wants a $15 national minimal wage and he wants free college. Reality? A Dominos pizza becomes $30, and jobs that once required a degree and paid 20-25 an hour now pay $15 an hours. Why? Well everyone has a fucking degree now. Basic labor becomes to much and we push to outsource labor, tech support and automate services. Those "you checkouts" are the tip of the ice berg. I foresee fully automated fast food dinners in that future. |
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03-13-2016, 06:05 PM | #142 | |
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What?! The electoral college is part of the founding principle of our democracy (which is actually a republic btw). A populist tyranny is the very last thing we want. Just like you are talking about states, that's how the electoral college works. Winner takes the whole state. State comes with a set number of votes related to its overall size. So if every state votes 51/49 but one state votes 95/5, it doesn't screw the country into forever being at the mercy of said state. A populist vote would mean that the 95/5 state is the only once that matters and is in control of all 49 other states destinies. Also, there is nothing in wrong with going against what people want. There are enough fucking dumbasses out there that would vote for $30 minimum wage, free housing and free cable internet if given the chance. Luckily, some of the people in charge are smart enough to realize that is financial impossible and irresponsible. As far as technology, who gives a shit. Should we also let the nation vote on the guilt of high profile criminal cases? We certainly have the technology for that. What a spectacle it would be. OJ Simpson, Text Guilty or Not Guilty to #OJCASE27! Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman etc. |
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03-13-2016, 06:13 PM | #143 | |
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I'm all about it, but it will never happen. Our country has its hands in far more than you could ever imagine across this globe. Giving up that influence will put us at risk, becuase if we arent there some other nation will happily be there to exploit the situation But im sure you already know this as the armchair general |
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03-13-2016, 06:24 PM | #144 | |
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If we have so much influence in Syria and Libya, then why the endless fighting and refugee crisis? |
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Hence the rattling saber from Trump to then fuel his ego even more. He's doing this for himself not the country. He's in a win-win situation whether he becomes pres or not |
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03-13-2016, 08:04 PM | #147 | |
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Other than middle eastern shit, name an event where the US was bad at diplomacy, name what you think good diplomacy constitutes, name a country other than Japan where the US is viewed in a highly favorable nature 90%+ |
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03-13-2016, 08:20 PM | #148 |
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Nope. Not getting my vote. Too many obvious reasons why not. And that is even if he makes it far enough to be the republican running man. And for the folks who keep thinking Hilary will make it anywhere, just remeber Obama never won the popular vote either back in 2008. See how that turned out.
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If we dug the founding fathers up they would be freaking out over the fact we are letting women and coloreds vote. They would be besides themselves regarding welfare, taxes and the idea that we would even entertain abortion or gay marriage. They where likely far more conservative than anything we can compare too today. Remember only land owning, God fearing white men could originally vote? Also, history bro. Quote:
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