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jakerps13 · 01-02-2009, 05:06 PM

The steam engine.

This has got to be one of the easiest engines to drive, maintain, and learn on. Jordan's s14 kat build is on ka-t.org if you're looking for specs.

fckillerbee · 01-02-2009, 05:39 PM

YouTube - Henry Schelley Smokin Sideway Federal Tyres
Henry built this car from the ground up. used the ka since it was easy to pickup motors in case he ever blew one. who knew this motor would last him the whole formula d 2008 season. Only thing to think about now, is 100mph+ drifting in a ka-t. around 380whp around 4800 rpm's. but dies to around 240 at redline. great for track days...not so good for formula d's 500-600whp competition.

My opinion...depends on your final destination. I was gonna go ka-t till I found out they max at 400whp with great mods. I know you can get rediculous 800whp out of them...but buy a SR, forge the internals, and run 14psi of boost, car will be reliable for damn near forever running 300whp.

haha or you can be a complete cheater and put a LSx motor in your 240 and you'll have infinite NA power hahahaha.

BoostSlideWayz · 01-02-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

YouTube - Henry Schelley Smokin Sideway Federal Tyres
Henry built this car from the ground up. used the ka since it was easy to pickup motors in case he ever blew one. who knew this motor would last him the whole formula d 2008 season. Only thing to think about now, is 100mph+ drifting in a ka-t. around 380whp around 4800 rpm's. but dies to around 240 at redline. great for track days...not so good for formula d's 500-600whp competition.

My opinion...depends on your final destination. I was gonna go ka-t till I found out they max at 400whp with great mods. I know you can get rediculous 800whp out of them...but buy a SR, forge the internals, and run 14psi of boost, car will be reliable for damn near forever running 300whp.

haha or you can be a complete cheater and put a LSx motor in your 240 and you'll have infinite NA power hahahaha.

That cars got it down for sure. I dont look forward to hitting the formula D events anytime soon since im gonna need ALOTTA practice jsut to get on podium. Im hoping i can start this build soon cuz i think im just gonna go for it and see how this build turns out.

Thanks guys for the advice!! im not sure how soon this build will happen since this family is really low on money at the moment. theyve been helping me this whole time get the car where it is right just to find out we need a couple more grand to fofill this dream of mine.

fromxtor · 01-02-2009, 08:45 PM

My old setup:

YouTube - Turbo's love heat
YouTube - SOHC Turbo S13
^^ 327 corrected wheel HP and 362 corrected lbs tq at the wheels at 18-20 psi and this was before they switched over to a N62 maf.

BustedS13 · 01-02-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakerps13

The steam engine.

This has got to be one of the easiest engines to drive, maintain, and learn on. Jordan's s14 kat build is on ka-t.org if you're looking for specs.

is that detroit diesel alpine green? i can dig it

ChristopherL · 01-02-2009, 09:09 PM

I think it'd be a great project to build a KA-T especially if you have another car to drive around and play with. (Mk4 Supra) But I'm reading alot of people saying that they're 'bored' of seeing Sr's in 240's and saying that it isn't original etc... I'd just like to make it clear that the KA COMES in the 240sx, incase everyone forgot that, so anyone that owns a 240sx at some point had a KA in it..... Unless they bought one with a swapped Sr/whatever. And personally I'd say Sr's are quite reliable, just stick with an S14/15 SR and upgrade injectors/turbo/tune/fuel pump and you could be putting down a reliable 300whp setup. If you so desired to invest some time and quality parts into it. Motors designed for boost, will always take it better.

BustedS13 · 01-02-2009, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristopherL

But I'm reading alot of people saying that they're 'bored' of seeing Sr's in 240's and saying that it isn't original etc...

people who say this are generally POSER DOUCHEBAGS.
and these POSER DOUCHEBAGS rarely get anything done, ka, sr, rb, ls1, or other.

jrbump · 01-02-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakerps13

This has got to be one of the easiest engines to drive, maintain, and learn on.

I would have to agree, as you are going to have endless opportunities to maintain and learn on a KA-T setup. lawlz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13

people who say this are generally POSER DOUCHEBAGS.
and these POSER DOUCHEBAGS rarely get anything done, ka, sr, rb, ls1, or other.

agreemanceXelevenfinity.

I just love what they are tired of "seeing", not "doing" shit -but tired of "seeing" nonetheless.

drftwerks · 01-02-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s0apgun

my mind has just been boggled

kae-t in a s14....

mind bottling isnt it.

mobilesuit818 · 01-02-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fromxtor

My old setup:

YouTube - Turbo's love heat
YouTube - SOHC Turbo S13
^^ 327 corrected wheel HP and 362 corrected lbs tq at the wheels at 18-20 psi and this was before they switched over to a N62 maf.

What manifold did you guys use? How did you guys relocated the power steering?

SochBAT · 01-02-2009, 11:35 PM

Hi guys!

KAE-T, do it. Most fun you will ever have.

Tracking it shouldn't be a problem. One big problem with SOHC's are the numerous vacuum lines which get effing retarded. Otherwise, have fun.

PS. Doug says hello!

Makotoseven.com
Makotoseven.com

He sold his car back in December but does have some things left over if any KA boosters want. Nismo FPR, MSD-6AL, Q45 TB's.

PPS.

Foxtrot, were you running a topmount log?

fromxtor · 01-03-2009, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilesuit818

What manifold did you guys use? How did you guys relocated the power steering?

JGS manifold, and get some rubber hose. You can mount the reservoir where ever you want.

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 12:09 AM

Im really liking the pics that are being posted this is awesome!

I have enough money right now to buy the bottom end...

Pistons i was thinking 8.8 Cr
eagle rods
Engine bearings
Rods Bearings

should i go all standard ? or what ??

if so im gonna order them tomorrow

Thanks!!!!

PS: Are ARP main and head studs a MUST for my build ??

s13 @ fullboost · 01-03-2009, 12:20 AM

Yess ARP is the shit although once in awhile you get a bad batch and they snapp but most the time they work wonders =]

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 12:53 AM

Ok, when i get the parts in ill let you guys see some photos.

What do you think is good to paint my car ??

Since the motor is out i can probly paint under the hood so i might aswell take that advantage.

primer white right now. I just wet sanded it. Im currently studying paint jobs. for Christmas i got a HVLP spray gun with a 26 LBS 150 PSI air compressor.

what colors do you guys think is good for a comp car? I was thinking a flashy color since i would want the judges to focus on my car when ever im out there..

Yellow? light blue ? white ?? im not sure lemme know guys thanks !

artdrifter · 01-03-2009, 12:54 AM

TOTALLY GO FOR IT!! my first 240 was a single cam and that thing was a beast. i beat the shit out of that thing and it held on forever.... until i smashed into a 1 foot high curb. It will be a lot of money but will be worth it in the end.

Matej · 01-03-2009, 12:58 AM

SOHC's look so small and cool, I kind of want one.

My favorite car with a KA24E is the BN demo S14.

ESmorz · 01-03-2009, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoostSlideWayz

what colors do you guys think is good for a comp car? I was thinking a flashy color since i would want the judges to focus on my car when ever im out there..

Yellow? light blue ? white ?? im not sure lemme know guys thanks !

/Life

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESmorz

/Life

Im kinda one of the slow ones....

I dont get it..

ESmorz · 01-03-2009, 01:12 AM

I know.

I even kind of feel bad now.

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESmorz

I know.

I even kind of feel bad now.

Lol ok then

mobilesuit818 · 01-03-2009, 01:18 AM

Turboing my SOHC is so tempting....

ESmorz · 01-03-2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoostSlideWayz

PS: Are ARP main and head studs a MUST for my build ??

Not a must but, it certainly won't hurt.

Hell even on OEM rebuilds I still use ARP.

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESmorz

Not a must but, it certainly won't hurt.

Hell even on OEM rebuilds I still use ARP.

So should i get the main and head studs ? or just the head studs alone?

Im thinking of getting both.

ESmorz · 01-03-2009, 01:33 AM

Well if it is power you want, why not go all out. In the grand scheme of things it's just a couple bucks.

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESmorz

Well if it is power you want, why not go all out. In the grand scheme of things it's just a couple bucks.

True true, so far in price range im looking at:

Pistons-499.99- not including shipping on any of products...
Rods-334.99
Engine main bearings-54.99
Rods Bearings-39.99
ARP main studs-129.99
ARP head studs -139.99

......$1199.94

GSXRJJordan · 01-03-2009, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoostSlideWayz

True true, so far in price range im looking at:

Pistons-499.99- not including shipping on any of products...
Rods-334.99
Engine main bearings-54.99
Rods Bearings-39.99
ARP main studs-129.99
ARP head studs -139.99

......$1199.94

Hahaha.

Assuming you have all the turbo equipment, + Fuel Pump + FPR + Injectors + MAF + ECU (ROM tune?)/Standalone, and all that will get you to where a stock-block SR20 is power-wise.

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Hahaha.

Assuming you have all the turbo equipment, + Fuel Pump + FPR + Injectors + MAF + ECU (ROM tune?)/Standalone, and all that will get you to where a stock-block SR20 is power-wise.

Yeah ive got all that.. I just wanna get the bottom end complete.

Ive already got

T3/T4 turbo with all the other etc needed for a kit.
255LPH fuel pump
460CC RX7 Injectors but i think i might get some bran new injectors not sure yet
I have yet to get FPR
i have stock ecu tuned with e-prom. Im looking forward to upgrade to the greddy emanage to cancel the MAF and have a better controll over everything under the hood.

jrbump · 01-03-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

SOHC's look so small and cool, I kind of want one.

My favorite car with a KA24E is the BN demo S14.

I was under the impression that the single cam was put in that car solely for the purpose of driving it to a meet to help sell it. Not for any love of single cams.

I don't want to put words in the owners or the shop that had it's mouths but that was my understanding.

BoostSlideWayz · 01-03-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrbump

I was under the impression that the single cam was put in that car solely for the purpose of driving it to a meet to help sell it. Not for any love of single cams.

I don't want to put words in the owners or the shop that had it's mouths but that was my understanding.

How did you find that out?? I think thats sad... SOHC in my sight are beautiful engines.... in a way a dream engine for drifters...

super easy to work on. Low maintanace and torque.... You may need a diff motor if you heading forthe high MPH drifts but this engine to me is perfect for a beginner.

01-02-2009, 05:06 PM	#61
jakerps13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Appleton, WI Age: 40 Posts: 171 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The steam engine. This has got to be one of the easiest engines to drive, maintain, and learn on. Jordan's s14 kat build is on ka-t.org if you're looking for specs. __________________ Lower than a pornstar's morals.

01-02-2009, 08:45 PM	#64
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 43 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	My old setup: YouTube - Turbo's love heat YouTube - SOHC Turbo S13 ^^ 327 corrected wheel HP and 362 corrected lbs tq at the wheels at 18-20 psi and this was before they switched over to a N62 maf. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

01-03-2009, 12:09 AM	#73
BoostSlideWayz Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lebec Age: 35 Posts: 1,686 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Im really liking the pics that are being posted this is awesome! I have enough money right now to buy the bottom end... Pistons i was thinking 8.8 Cr eagle rods Engine bearings Rods Bearings should i go all standard ? or what ?? if so im gonna order them tomorrow Thanks!!!! PS: Are ARP main and head studs a MUST for my build ?? __________________ 1994 toyota supra...... n-a D= 1992 nissan 240sx KA24E-T fully Built =D

01-03-2009, 12:20 AM	#74
s13 @ fullboost Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: St.Petersburg,FL Posts: 2,549 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Yess ARP is the shit although once in awhile you get a bad batch and they snapp but most the time they work wonders =] __________________

01-03-2009, 12:53 AM	#75
BoostSlideWayz Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lebec Age: 35 Posts: 1,686 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ok, when i get the parts in ill let you guys see some photos. What do you think is good to paint my car ?? Since the motor is out i can probly paint under the hood so i might aswell take that advantage. primer white right now. I just wet sanded it. Im currently studying paint jobs. for Christmas i got a HVLP spray gun with a 26 LBS 150 PSI air compressor. what colors do you guys think is good for a comp car? I was thinking a flashy color since i would want the judges to focus on my car when ever im out there.. Yellow? light blue ? white ?? im not sure lemme know guys thanks ! __________________ 1994 toyota supra...... n-a D= 1992 nissan 240sx KA24E-T fully Built =D

01-02-2009, 05:39 PM	#62
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	YouTube - Henry Schelley Smokin Sideway Federal Tyres Henry built this car from the ground up. used the ka since it was easy to pickup motors in case he ever blew one. who knew this motor would last him the whole formula d 2008 season. Only thing to think about now, is 100mph+ drifting in a ka-t. around 380whp around 4800 rpm's. but dies to around 240 at redline. great for track days...not so good for formula d's 500-600whp competition. My opinion...depends on your final destination. I was gonna go ka-t till I found out they max at 400whp with great mods. I know you can get rediculous 800whp out of them...but buy a SR, forge the internals, and run 14psi of boost, car will be reliable for damn near forever running 300whp. haha or you can be a complete cheater and put a LSx motor in your 240 and you'll have infinite NA power hahahaha.

01-02-2009, 09:09 PM	#66
ChristopherL Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it'd be a great project to build a KA-T especially if you have another car to drive around and play with. (Mk4 Supra) But I'm reading alot of people saying that they're 'bored' of seeing Sr's in 240's and saying that it isn't original etc... I'd just like to make it clear that the KA COMES in the 240sx, incase everyone forgot that, so anyone that owns a 240sx at some point had a KA in it..... Unless they bought one with a swapped Sr/whatever. And personally I'd say Sr's are quite reliable, just stick with an S14/15 SR and upgrade injectors/turbo/tune/fuel pump and you could be putting down a reliable 300whp setup. If you so desired to invest some time and quality parts into it. Motors designed for boost, will always take it better.

01-02-2009, 11:35 PM	#71
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 38 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Hi guys! KAE-T, do it. Most fun you will ever have. Tracking it shouldn't be a problem. One big problem with SOHC's are the numerous vacuum lines which get effing retarded. Otherwise, have fun. PS. Doug says hello! Makotoseven.com Makotoseven.com He sold his car back in December but does have some things left over if any KA boosters want. Nismo FPR, MSD-6AL, Q45 TB's. PPS. Foxtrot, were you running a topmount log?

01-03-2009, 12:54 AM	#76
artdrifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Bernardino Age: 35 Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	TOTALLY GO FOR IT!! my first 240 was a single cam and that thing was a beast. i beat the shit out of that thing and it held on forever.... until i smashed into a 1 foot high curb. It will be a lot of money but will be worth it in the end.

01-03-2009, 12:58 AM	#77
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	SOHC's look so small and cool, I kind of want one. My favorite car with a KA24E is the BN demo S14.

01-03-2009, 01:12 AM	#80
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I know. I even kind of feel bad now. __________________

01-03-2009, 01:18 AM	#82
mobilesuit818 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 269 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Turboing my SOHC is so tempting.... __________________ Quality is not expensive, its priceless.

01-03-2009, 01:33 AM	#85
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Well if it is power you want, why not go all out. In the grand scheme of things it's just a couple bucks. __________________