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Old 05-21-2010, 09:45 AM   #691
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He does... uses it in the manga ALL THE TIME... Old news.
yes yes i know... but this leads to another theory... an old theory that i'm sure ppl will keep rejecting, but seems very possible.

People would agree that the masked akatsuki leader possesses the same type of sharingan as kakashi right??? the whole sending things to the third dimension... they just use it in different forms..

soooo.... there must be a link between kakashi and akatsuki leader, correct?... but wait, kakashi's sharingan isn't his.... OBITO gave it to him......... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Akatsuki leader= right side sharingan
Kakashi= left side sharingan
tobi= obito's personality
madara= waaay too old to actually exist
Akatsuki leader= hides his face for some uknown reason. Maybe crushed faced?

So my final thought is:

Masked akatsuki leader must have some sort of connection with Obito.
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:37 PM   #693
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if you rearrange obito you get tobi minus an o. profit ?

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yes yes i know... but this leads to another theory... an old theory that i'm sure ppl will keep rejecting, but seems very possible.

People would agree that the masked akatsuki leader possesses the same type of sharingan as kakashi right??? the whole sending things to the third dimension... they just use it in different forms..

soooo.... there must be a link between kakashi and akatsuki leader, correct?... but wait, kakashi's sharingan isn't his.... OBITO gave it to him......... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Akatsuki leader= right side sharingan
Kakashi= left side sharingan
tobi= obito's personality
madara= waaay too old to actually exist
Akatsuki leader= hides his face for some uknown reason. Maybe crushed faced?

So my final thought is:

Masked akatsuki leader must have some sort of connection with Obito.
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yes yes i know... but this leads to another theory... an old theory that i'm sure ppl will keep rejecting, but seems very possible.

People would agree that the masked akatsuki leader possesses the same type of sharingan as kakashi right??? the whole sending things to the third dimension... they just use it in different forms..

soooo.... there must be a link between kakashi and akatsuki leader, correct?... but wait, kakashi's sharingan isn't his.... OBITO gave it to him......... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Akatsuki leader= right side sharingan
Kakashi= left side sharingan
tobi= obito's personality
madara= waaay too old to actually exist
Akatsuki leader= hides his face for some uknown reason. Maybe crushed faced?

So my final thought is:

Masked akatsuki leader must have some sort of connection with Obito.
Tobi IS Madaara, and Madaara is very well alive. Tobi is a fake "personality" to cover up his identity

Spoiler: The real Akatsuki leader is hiding in some far away place because he's well.. 'weak' but he controls Pein and all the other dudes with crazy piercings, because he's... well, basically god. =o (Cause he possesses the Rinnegan)

I sound like a little nerd.
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yes yes i know... but this leads to another theory... an old theory that i'm sure ppl will keep rejecting, but seems very possible.

People would agree that the masked akatsuki leader possesses the same type of sharingan as kakashi right??? the whole sending things to the third dimension... they just use it in different forms..

soooo.... there must be a link between kakashi and akatsuki leader, correct?... but wait, kakashi's sharingan isn't his.... OBITO gave it to him......... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Akatsuki leader= right side sharingan
Kakashi= left side sharingan
tobi= obito's personality
madara= waaay too old to actually exist
Akatsuki leader= hides his face for some uknown reason. Maybe crushed faced?

So my final thought is:

Masked akatsuki leader must have some sort of connection with Obito.
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Tobi IS Madaara, and Madaara is very well alive. Tobi is a fake "personality" to cover up his identity

Spoiler: The real Akatsuki leader is hiding in some far away place because he's well.. 'weak' but he controls Pein and all the other dudes with crazy piercings, because he's... well, basically god. =o (Cause he possesses the Rinnegan)

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Also wrong. You go read the manga too. Pain/Nagato is not the real leader of Akatsuki. Madara/Tobi is.
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what in the manga has disproved obito's connection with madara i'd like to ask. it's probably a looooong shot of being true but a theory is still a theory

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^^^The fact that several characters have recognized Madara for who he is. Like Kisame and Danzo.

Also... the manga doesn't really need to dispove the Madara/Obito connection since it never drew the conclusion in the first place. Obito is dead, homie. Crushed under a boulder. In fact, Madara uses the eye that should have been destroyed by that boulder. They can't be the same person.
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^^^The fact that several characters have recognized Madara for who he is. Like Kisame and Danzo.

Also... the manga doesn't really need to dispove the Madara/Obito connection since it never drew the conclusion in the first place. Obito is dead, homie. Crushed under a boulder. In fact, Madara uses the eye that should have been destroyed by that boulder. They can't be the same person.
That is also still only a theory. Tobi may not even be who he says he is at all. For all we know he's disguising himself as madara.

Naruto 489 page 17 | One Manga

there kabuto greets tobi but then says " excuse me, you go by madara these days, don't you. " That also plays into that scene when kabuto reveals something to tobi and obviously knows something or has someone that tobi wouldn't like to have exposed.
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Tobi IS Madaara, and Madaara is very well alive. Tobi is a fake "personality" to cover up his identity

Spoiler: The real Akatsuki leader is hiding in some far away place because he's well.. 'weak' but he controls Pein and all the other dudes with crazy piercings, because he's... well, basically god. =o (Cause he possesses the Rinnegan)

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Obviously Obito is dead. The theory that he's alive and calling himself Madara these days MIGHT be true only because this is a comic written by one man and Kishimoto can write anything he wants. He can bring people people back from the dead, blah blah blah. To me the theory that Obito is Madara is unlikely. There's got to be a better explanation than that.

There's also obviously some funny business with "Madara's" identity because of the simple fact that he's wearing a mask. Kishimoto has something planned for when he finally takes off that mask, there's no doubt about it.

I told ReLic to read the manga because it seems like in the last few pages of this thread, there have been more than a few people who "only watch the Anime" or aren't caught up yet, and they're throwing around theories and ideas. Catch up with the rest of us and then we can all discuss current events.
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That is also still only a theory. Tobi may not even be who he says he is at all. For all we know he's disguising himself as madara.

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there kabuto greets tobi but then says " excuse me, you go by madara these days, don't you. " That also plays into that scene when kabuto reveals something to tobi and obviously knows something or has someone that tobi wouldn't like to have exposed.
this. But highly doubt it's obito. Like said, that eye is crushed. Could be iffy translation.
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Obviously Obito is dead. The theory that he's alive and calling himself Madara these days MIGHT be true only because this is a comic written by one man and Kishimoto can write anything he wants. He can bring people people back from the dead, blah blah blah. To me the theory that Obito is Madara is unlikely. There's got to be a better explanation than that.

There's also obviously some funny business with "Madara's" identity because of the simple fact that he's wearing a mask. Kishimoto has something planned for when he finally takes off that mask, there's no doubt about it.

I told ReLic to read the manga because it seems like in the last few pages of this thread, there have been more than a few people who "only watch the Anime" or aren't caught up yet, and they're throwing around theories and ideas. Catch up with the rest of us and then we can all discuss current events.
exactly! This is the manga thread not anime
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Obviously Obito is dead. The theory that he's alive and calling himself Madara these days MIGHT be true only because this is a comic written by one man and Kishimoto can write anything he wants. He can bring people people back from the dead, blah blah blah. To me the theory that Obito is Madara is unlikely. There's got to be a better explanation than that.

There's also obviously some funny business with "Madara's" identity because of the simple fact that he's wearing a mask. Kishimoto has something planned for when he finally takes off that mask, there's no doubt about it.

I told ReLic to read the manga because it seems like in the last few pages of this thread, there have been more than a few people who "only watch the Anime" or aren't caught up yet, and they're throwing around theories and ideas. Catch up with the rest of us and then we can all discuss current events.
I HAVE read the manga. I wouldn't even know who madara was if i hadn't ....

Your "fact" about tobi officially saying he is madara is wrong. It's not a fact. There's still uncertainty in that. Plus in the kage reunion "tobi" says that the body he's in is only an empty shell for his real body. Not in those exact words, but that's how i took it.

There's many little things suggesting obito is involved somehow. If you don't see them lmk and i'll show them to you.

Another thing i just remembered was when kakashi "died" to Pain. He talked to his dad and when he was brought back to life, his dad tells him there's still something he (kakashi) has to do in life. I don't think it'll be something small like saving a few ppl's lives or anything like that. It must be something big. What would be bigger then to confront obito?
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When did I ever use the word fact? + If you took the time to read what you quoted you'd see that I'm almost agreeing with you in regards to how "Madara" isn't who he says he is. I just happen to disagree that it's Obito.
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where the fuck have you been??
LOL I haven't read anything in a LONG time. I just posted what I thought from a while back.
All I do is watch the episodes now, tired of reading. Rather watch something move other than the scroll bar on my browser. Ha
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Plus in the kage reunion "tobi" says that the body he's in is only an empty shell for his real body. Not in those exact words, but that's how i took it.
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You didn't say it was a fact, but this ^^ sure tells me you think... or used to think (before changing your viewpoint in your next post) that madara was tobi's true identity.

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Are you serious? Go google it...
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Yeah, I'm serious. Cause I read that too and didn't see none of the shit you talking about...
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I'll go ahead and post it up since he doesn't want to.

Naruto Central | Manga Viewer > Naruto > 467

From that, it seems like he is simply still weakened from a battle he had long ago with Hashirama. NOT that he's using a "shell" of a body etc etc etc.

EDIT: OMG I FOUND A LEAKED PAGE FROM THE NEXT CHAPTER OF THE MANGA NEXT WEEK!

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Yeah, I'm serious. Cause I read that too and didn't see none of the shit you talking about...
You might want to re-read it then. Reading includes comprehending.

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Dude, i'm bringing this up so people could give me their reasoning to why they think i'm wrong. Nobody knows what's gonna happen. Most likely we'll all be wrong knowing how the writer twists things around. But there's no harm in talking about it.

Guess i'm just talking to the wrong people.. Huh daniel. lol I would expect childish crap from some of the younger side of this forum. But not by a 25 n 30 year old. lol
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I stopped taking the internet seriously a long time ago.

Besides that, how is simmode1 being childish? He's just asking you to provide proof to backup your theory.
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So let me get this right, Tobi is Madara which is fact? That's what I thought I saw when I watched the anime.
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Tobi claims to be Madara. This being a comic book, nothing is for sure. Kishimoto could make anything happen at any time.

I just hope he doesn't turn out to be Obito.
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