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Old 04-17-2010, 10:27 PM   #31
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except they built the Mustang to handle much better than the Camaro. Gm did an awesome job, but i think alot of the Camaro's succes has to do with the 8 year absence. next year will be interesting, we can see if the Camaro stays on top. i think if they bring out the Z28 they may.
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iirc, the z28 was the Camaro's equivelent to the Mustang Shelby 500 or whatever.
Totally different car in the 40k-50k price range.
Kinda redundant as at that level, the Camaro is priced the same as a C6 Corvette.
If I had 50k to blow, a Vette or M3 are the best contenders imo.

Come to think of it, the value of the 30k GT now is just so much better than the 48k Shelby 500.
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iirc, the z28 was the Camaro's equivelent to the Mustang Shelby 500 or whatever.
Totally different car in the 40k-50k price range.
Kinda redundant as at that level, the Camaro is priced the same as a C6 Corvette.
If I had 50k to blow, a Vette or M3 are the best contenders imo.

Come to think of it, the value of the 30k GT now is just so much better than the 48k Shelby 500.
vette is a whole nother type of car though.

No back seats, lol.
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anyone ever drive a new camaro? IMO, it's a joke. you cant see shit, the interior is nice looking, but shitty to operate. that car has so many blindspots! and for such a huge car, you cant fit jack shit in it! the 2 2010 mustangs i drove were much nicer to drive. new model should be even better. no to mention, mother-effing grabber blue.
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Ford is the only American automaker that's doing things right. With the exception of the Corvette and their trucks, GM is garbage. Chrysler isn't doing any better.
wasn't saying it was any better than any of the other american car companies... actually, tesla is better than ford, but besides them, they're all the same.
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Like someone said.. I'd rather get a c6 vette. Even if it's a "whole other car." Value is better, the car is just... better.
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I think it's safe to say the Genesis Coupe is irrelevant now. The V6 Mustang is even going to give the 370z it's run for the money.
It seems a little like that... Factory turbo power is nice and all... but the little 2.0L's powerband ain't gonna compare to these big boys. It's like the 90's entry level sports car market all over again... Well, maybe not with the RX8 and Sk2 bowing out, but almost...
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30k and the car goes to 60 in 4.3 seconds stock

thats MIND BLOWING

all these ig'nant folks whining about how bmw's are better blah blah blah, domestics make me burn when i pee,, wah, wah, wah


that new 5.0 will kill nearly all contenders within 15 grand of its price point.

we're 240 enthusiasts, we're about underdog low buck performance cars.


the new GT is ridiculously dominant and none of the objections presented as of yet address the fact that the numbers just bury naysayers.


it still would be nice if it was lighter but nobody makes lightweight mainstream cars anymore. maybe the new ft86 will have a ballsy engine option, who knows. with segment competition like v6 mustangs, the new ft probably will need a higher hp model
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Have you ever owned a Ford or do you just think "I'm gay and joined a nissan forum cause everyones doing it and I think all american cars are gay buts everyone else does" ? my parents have owned plenty of Fords and over course there are the ones that are always gonna have problems, but there are also the ones that run flawless for example my dads 93 bronco ran like a champ up until 275xxx miles and the tranny blew out but there is also my sisters 2000 v6 mustang that has gone through one engine and about 4 alternators. So it goes to show there will always be two sides to each story
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wasn't saying it was any better than any of the other american car companies... actually, tesla is better than ford, but besides them, they're all the same.
LOL you seriously have to be Joking first off the Tesla uses a Lotus Chassis. Second off when compared to how a real Lotus is its a pile of shit. Its heavy , It wallows in the corners and is just stupidly overpriced for what you get.

Its a rich persons "I am trying to look green" status symbol, by driving an electric sports car and nothing more.

As far as sports cars go I would just as soon save 60k and Buy the Lotus. Great gas mileage goes like stink and handles like a bat out of hell.

Tesla is not even worth mentioning in this convo as well as the Mustang would make mince meat of it.
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I was never really into Mustangs. I always thought they were the cliche American-person-car to buy since forever.

However I really did like their retro styling on the newer Mustangs. It definitely kept the car true to its roots, unlike the Foxbodys etc which were terribly ugly.

Overall, they're pretty neat now.
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30k and the car goes to 60 in 4.3 seconds stock

thats MIND BLOWING
yes, we will see what happens when it reaches the dealer with the markups and whatnot.

Are any of those prices officially released by ford?
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You can already 'build your own' on the Ford website.
Imo, you have to watch the options.

A 30k GT base trim seems reasonable enough.
Add the $1600ish brembo pkg, the $400 axle upgradw,
$600 hids, $1,300 stereo, etc,
it can run well beyond 40k before you know it.

I wouldnt be to concerned with the weight of the car.
It does well with the specs & reviews.
Besides 3500 isnt far from the norm.

ill try to test drive the Mustang the next few weeks.
The GF wants a new car & likes the V6 base trim.
soon youll be buried in option costs.
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I was never really into Mustangs. I always thought they were the cliche American-person-car to buy since forever.

However I really did like their retro styling on the newer Mustangs. It definitely kept the car true to its roots, unlike the Foxbodys etc which were terribly ugly.

Overall, they're pretty neat now.
I forgot in what advertisement but they actually stated that they are trying to get the attention of the "younger female" crowd ranging from ages 16 - 24 or something like that, and yes the foxbody was definitely the ugliest along with the generation that followed it
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lol, Tesla, really? You're joking, right?


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Have you ever owned a Ford or do you just think "I'm gay and joined a nissan forum cause everyones doing it and I think all american cars are gay buts everyone else does" ? my parents have owned plenty of Fords and over course there are the ones that are always gonna have problems, but there are also the ones that run flawless for example my dads 93 bronco ran like a champ up until 275xxx miles and the tranny blew out but there is also my sisters 2000 v6 mustang that has gone through one engine and about 4 alternators. So it goes to show there will always be two sides to each story
Do you think i've owned a ford based off of my comment??and it was a joke!! hence the abbreviations. I know all fords or any car for that matter dont require maintenace daily. but i guess your too simple minded to have even noticed. and really..?? look at the dates that we both joined.. yours is after mine you dumbass, so does that mean you just go around accusing people of what your probably guilty for.. and not once in my previous comment did i ever say that all domestics are gay, you automatically assumed my preference thus making yourself look like an idiot, lastly learn how to write, your sentences dont make sense "I think all american cars are gay BUTS everyone else does" "and over THE course "<---(i capitalized your mistakes for you.. maybe you'll notice this time around)
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I think the mustang downgraded from the previous generation as far as looks go. The new ones look like a weak chick version.
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wow with people thinking fox bodies and crappy s/c ones are the greatest its no wonder that mustangs have crappy reputations
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I think it's safe to say the Genesis Coupe is irrelevant now.
The V6 Mustang is even going to give the 370z it's run for the money.
I wouldn't buy the Mustang over the Gen Coupe. I just don't like it enough. I do think the Mustang is a better bang for your buck, but it's styling is not for me.
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actually, tesla is better than ford, but besides them, they're all the same.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

How can you compare a cottage industry firm with an as-yet not mass market technology to a Fortune 100 household name automaker?

I'll admit that the muscle car aesthetic isn't my bag, but the Stang GT outbrakes the M3, accelerates almost exactly the same, is lighter, is half the price, etc etc etc. If this isn't at all compelling to you than you're obviously not basing your auto-buying decisions on performance.

The V6 with 300hp and 31mpg for $23k is astonishing.
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the V6 will own anything in its price range.

the 2011 V6 Mustang is as quick as a 2010 GT
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i still dont respect american cars... it will break down sooner or later..it will become a junk car...and it doesnt deserve to b in this forum
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I'm not the "rah rah patriotism" type, but this is a seriously ignorant comment.

Do you look at rankings or read automotive news? Is it generally important to you to know what you're talking about before you speak?

Ford handily beat both Nissan and Infiniti in 2009-10 Initial Quality and Dependability rankings.

Toyota and Honda were still higher on both, but Ford ran over Nissan/Infiniti/Mazda (and all the Germans other than Porsche)
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i love the new motor and suspension on the 2011 mustangs but i personally think the body is booty on them compared to the 05-09... i could be a little biased though

if i had the coin i would swap a 5.0 into my 06 in a heartbeat. that motor is bad ass.
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