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killer240 · 11-21-2010, 11:46 PM

what do you think about using this kind of paint for a dashboard?

is it illegal/legal to run custom cluster? i don't think so, but im not sure?

ALEXTHESUS*PECT · 11-22-2010, 12:03 AM

wooooooow, so nice!

punkmonkey0913 · 11-22-2010, 01:10 AM

and he does it AGAIN
broadfield is my hero

scottie · 11-22-2010, 06:44 AM

What can I say? Broadfield IS the MAN!

And just to add...........

DASH 2 Cluster Solution
Innovative Wideband
Nordskog Fuel Level

Thanks again Toby! The cluster is the cherry on top of my build.

CamryOnBronze · 11-22-2010, 07:17 AM

^ Glad to see another gauge was added to the other side. I think that is a perfect layout. Nice work as always Tob...

conrad_s13.5 · 11-22-2010, 07:29 AM

so dope man!

kyles1988 · 11-22-2010, 08:05 AM

Nice work Greg!

nathanong87 · 11-22-2010, 08:18 AM

holy moly.

G240 · 11-22-2010, 08:42 AM

Looks great, any reason why you didn't make a custom clear cover? I just think the 3 holes takes away from the awesome work that was done.

kyles1988 · 11-22-2010, 08:56 AM

I don't think people realize it takes 73 master's degrees in thermodynamics and being awesome to make that kind of plastic cover.

ixfxi · 11-22-2010, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyles1988

I don't think people realize it takes 73 master's degrees in thermodynamics and being awesome to make that kind of plastic cover.

or you could just use acrylic...

it wont be easy, but it is possible.

you could also use an optically clear adhesive to fill the hole since its being wetsanded and polished. it wont be perfect but i guess its better than having open holes.

either way, not a big deal. some people are so picky they forget they're driving a 20+ year old rust-bucket

tricky_ab · 11-22-2010, 12:22 PM

Looking great like always! Man I have to use your services for my glovebox once I figure out what I'd like to run.

ILoveMyRHS13 · 11-22-2010, 12:24 PM

Fantastic work as well.

Our of curiosity, how do you know the driver will be looking at the cluster at 12 degrees?

funes · 11-22-2010, 12:25 PM

clean work, it is awesome!

Broadfield · 11-22-2010, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer240

what do you think about using this kind of paint for a dashboard?

is it illegal/legal to run custom cluster? i don't think so, but im not sure?

I'm sure it's illegal not to have an odometer in certain states/cities.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

Fantastic work as well.

Our of curiosity, how do you know the driver will be looking at the cluster at 12 degrees?

12 degrees off axis of a straight on view. So the customer determined where he sat and where the Dash2 would sit in the cluster. It's not an exact science of how much I angled it... as long as it was close.

Broadfield · 11-22-2010, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G240

Looks great, any reason why you didn't make a custom clear cover? I just think the 3 holes takes away from the awesome work that was done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

or you could just use acrylic...

it wont be easy, but it is possible.

you could also use an optically clear adhesive to fill the hole since its being wetsanded and polished. it wont be perfect but i guess its better than having open holes.

either way, not a big deal. some people are so picky they forget they're driving a 20+ year old rust-bucket

As Kyle stated, it would not be easy to simply make that piece. I would have to make a mold of the original first... which would be VERY time consuming and VERY difficult. I would then need to use a product called Liquid Ice... which is basically liquid acrylic. That stuff is not cheap either. Then yes, I would have a perfect piece of OEM replica without the holes. But who in their right mind is going to pay me $300 - $400 or more for that piece?

As far as using a piece of acrylic... that's not good either. Acrylic is flat and the OEM piece is actually a compound angle. That would be VERY difficult to form with heat on a consistent level acceptable to me. Then you still wouldn't have anyway to attach it to the front trim. The OEM piece has the clips molded into it.

As for filling the holes... it would look like I tried to fill the holes and failed. Why bother filling the holes if it's going to look like you filled it? It would be different if the holes were a hazard issue... like water was going to get in there or something. Otherwise the holes are harmless.

And on top of all of that, you don't really notice the holes when it's actually mounted in the car and under the dash hood. The only reason you notice them now is because of the direct lighting on it.

As seen in mine, you just don't notice it that much:

Toby

ZilviaKid · 11-22-2010, 01:56 PM

so good man, you really are inspirational.

G240 · 11-22-2010, 02:00 PM

You make valid points Toby. Thanks for the time in explaining.

ixfxi · 11-22-2010, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadfield

As Kyle stated, it would not be easy to simply make that piece. I would have to make a mold of the original first... which would be VERY time consuming and VERY difficult. I would then need to use a product called Liquid Ice... which is basically liquid acrylic. That stuff is not cheap either. Then yes, I would have a perfect piece of OEM replica without the holes. But who in their right mind is going to pay me $300 - $400 or more for that piece?

As far as using a piece of acrylic... that's not good either. Acrylic is flat and the OEM piece is actually a compound angle. That would be VERY difficult to form with heat on a consistent level acceptable to me. Then you still wouldn't have anyway to attach it to the front trim. The OEM piece has the clips molded into it.

As for filling the holes... it would look like I tried to fill the holes and failed. Why bother filling the holes if it's going to look like you filled it? It would be different if the holes were a hazard issue... like water was going to get in there or something. Otherwise the holes are harmless.

And on top of all of that, you don't really notice the holes when it's actually mounted in the car and under the dash hood. The only reason you notice them now is because of the direct lighting on it.

As seen in mine, you just don't notice it that much:
Toby

i notice it, but then again i am not the customer so it doesnt matter

good job though

PoorMans180SX · 11-22-2010, 08:51 PM

Call me weird, but I kind of like the asymmetrical design. Either way, this looks awesome. I'll definitely be giving you a call when I want a cluster put together.

bllabong89 · 11-23-2010, 10:44 AM

your work is sooooo sick. great job like always.

CLM_s13Type-x · 11-23-2010, 11:05 AM

Man you got skills. Its looks factory. Awesome!

blueshark123 · 11-23-2010, 05:50 PM

wouldnt it just be better not using that plastic shield at all

Broadfield · 11-23-2010, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Call me weird, but I kind of like the asymmetrical design. Either way, this looks awesome. I'll definitely be giving you a call when I want a cluster put together.

Actually, I like the asymmetrical layout also. Gives it that "raw" feel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshark123

wouldnt it just be better not using that plastic shield at all

It would look a little unfinished, but it's completely up to each person... you can do whatever you want. It is nice because it helps keep dust out.

ixfxi · 11-24-2010, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshark123

wouldnt it just be better not using that plastic shield at all

deep

i mean, imagine how hard its going to be for the new owner to UNCLIP the original cover

he may need to send it back to toby, in case he doesnt have the strength and/or tools necessary

onepuff · 11-24-2010, 04:48 PM

Toby have you ever tried vacuum forming for the clear plastic. Here's a link

Vacuum form a clear canopy!

Broadfield · 11-24-2010, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onepuff

Toby have you ever tried vacuum forming for the clear plastic. Here's a link

Vacuum form a clear canopy!

I have a vacuum bag setup at work that we use to make our own veneers on wood etc. However, the plastic I would need to use would be at least 4x as thick as the stuff in that write-up. So I'm not really sure if it would work. It looks to be a good way to do it if it would work on thicker acrylic though. But like I stated, it's not a matter of if I can do it, it's a matter of a customer wanting to pay to have it done. I think a lot of people on here think I make a ton of clusters and that the customer may want an option for a new clear front.... I have made TWO clusters for customers, that's it! Hell, I can't even give away a free S14 cluster because no one has the gauges to put in it. Grant it, I have a couple clusters lined up within the next couple months, but it's just not something that is popular. If they will pay, I will make it!

onepuff · 11-24-2010, 09:02 PM

Cool just throwing it out there. You were talking about the liquid acrylic stuff so wasn't sure if you were aware of this way.

xBlastoisex · 11-25-2010, 07:58 PM

dude your stuff is insane!! i remember meeting you a few summers ago at IA. was with kim. do you also do upholstery for customers or only the clusters.

holemilk00 · 11-27-2010, 02:38 PM

There are things on the market for the aquarium industry that you could use to fill those holes that would be flawless after the sanding and polishing process if it ever really bothers someone that much. But for the most part, you don't see it.

11-21-2010, 11:46 PM	#31
killer240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pair of dice, Norcal Age: 34 Posts: 2,621 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	what do you think about using this kind of paint for a dashboard? is it illegal/legal to run custom cluster? i don't think so, but im not sure? __________________ REVIEW

11-22-2010, 12:03 AM	#32
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11-22-2010, 07:17 AM	#35
CamryOnBronze Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MI Age: 38 Posts: 3,916 Trader Rating: (131) Rides Gallery: CamryOnBronze Feedback Score: 131 reviews	^ Glad to see another gauge was added to the other side. I think that is a perfect layout. Nice work as always Tob... __________________ CamryOnBronze.com

11-22-2010, 07:29 AM	#36
conrad_s13.5 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: STL Age: 36 Posts: 1,533 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	so dope man! __________________ cONtRol FReAkS

11-22-2010, 08:18 AM	#38
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11-22-2010, 01:10 AM	#33
punkmonkey0913 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Lubbock Tx. Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	and he does it AGAIN broadfield is my hero

11-22-2010, 06:44 AM	#34
scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	What can I say? Broadfield IS the MAN! And just to add........... DASH 2 Cluster Solution Innovative Wideband Nordskog Fuel Level Thanks again Toby! The cluster is the cherry on top of my build.

11-22-2010, 08:05 AM	#37
kyles1988 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Normal, IL Posts: 1,026 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Nice work Greg!

11-22-2010, 08:42 AM	#39
G240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Looks great, any reason why you didn't make a custom clear cover? I just think the 3 holes takes away from the awesome work that was done.

11-22-2010, 08:56 AM	#40
kyles1988 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Normal, IL Posts: 1,026 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I don't think people realize it takes 73 master's degrees in thermodynamics and being awesome to make that kind of plastic cover.

11-22-2010, 12:22 PM	#42
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,414 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Looking great like always! Man I have to use your services for my glovebox once I figure out what I'd like to run.

11-22-2010, 12:25 PM	#44
funes Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: California 909/626/714/949 Age: 34 Posts: 164 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	clean work, it is awesome!

11-22-2010, 01:56 PM	#47
ZilviaKid Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto Age: 34 Posts: 1,441 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so good man, you really are inspirational. __________________ 2004 Nissan 350z 2002 Nissan Silvia

11-22-2010, 02:00 PM	#48
G240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	You make valid points Toby. Thanks for the time in explaining.

11-22-2010, 08:51 PM	#50
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,574 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Call me weird, but I kind of like the asymmetrical design. Either way, this looks awesome. I'll definitely be giving you a call when I want a cluster put together. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

11-23-2010, 10:44 AM	#51
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11-23-2010, 11:05 AM	#52
CLM_s13Type-x Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: greenville, SC Age: 34 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man you got skills. Its looks factory. Awesome!

11-23-2010, 05:50 PM	#53
blueshark123 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 5,481 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	wouldnt it just be better not using that plastic shield at all

11-24-2010, 04:48 PM	#56
onepuff Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Age: 45 Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Toby have you ever tried vacuum forming for the clear plastic. Here's a link Vacuum form a clear canopy!

11-24-2010, 09:02 PM	#58
onepuff Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Age: 45 Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Cool just throwing it out there. You were talking about the liquid acrylic stuff so wasn't sure if you were aware of this way.

11-25-2010, 07:58 PM	#59
xBlastoisex Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: indiana Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dude your stuff is insane!! i remember meeting you a few summers ago at IA. was with kim. do you also do upholstery for customers or only the clusters.

11-27-2010, 02:38 PM	#60
holemilk00 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 2,485 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	There are things on the market for the aquarium industry that you could use to fill those holes that would be flawless after the sanding and polishing process if it ever really bothers someone that much. But for the most part, you don't see it. __________________ I had a cool signature