weird thing I heard about the 9/11 attack last night

[stiizy]

Originally Posted by HalveBlue

By the way, man never landed on the moon.

Word it was a desert!!

[Killa_D]

Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

the only thing I've proven is that I'm a fucking lunatic, in case you havn't already known that. But there really isn't much to prove except a plane hit the WTC. What kind of pane is it is the question.

Well actually we know that a plane hit and we might never know what actual plane was used but what gets me is why the WTC fell in the first place. Now let me take you back i remember watching the news like 5 min after the first plane hit (so i was glued to the tv during the hole time till the second tower fell). When One of the towers fell i remember cnn or some other big news company interviewing a couple of people on the streets including a fireman and a police officer and some other random people and they all said the same thing that they heard multiple loud bangs like 5 or 6 bangs as the tower was falling now what could that be?

[HalveBlue]

Originally Posted by Killa_D

When One of the towers fell i remember cnn or some other big news company interviewing a couple of people on the streets including a fireman and a police officer and some other random people and they all said the same thing that they heard multiple loud bangs like 5 or 6 bangs as the tower was falling now what could that be?

ECHO!

Have you ever been in a huge city? The large, mostly flat, surfaces and dense concentration of high rises are perfect for reflecting sound.

The sound of an explosion as loud as what happened on 9/11 would have been reflected several times across the city.

[water]

^(Killa_D) You honestly think a building would collapse and not make banging noises?

The thing that gets me the most about all the theories is how quickly they change and how quickly people grasp onto each theory as irrefutable facts.

For one reason or another, some people want to believe there is some huge conspiracy. I'm sorry, I just don't believe that Bush or anyone else convinced some commercial airline pilots to commit suicide for some imaginary new world order movement or something.

[Om1kron]

isn't it incinerated... not insenerated? i'm just saying. You guys need to look into the spelling before getting to the facts.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by smellslikecurry

i was actually in my moms office building maybe 6 blocks away when this all happened
i only managed to get one picture before running for all holy hell


it was fucking drftgirl i knew that pyscho was coming for me

ahahahhaahhahahahahhahaahhaha.

[SoSideways]

Have you people not seen any of the documentaries where they interviewed all the top engineers that have built some of the world's most recognized high rise buildings, and they all provided information on why/how the towers fell?

The evidence is there to support the fact that the jet fuel weakened the structure enough to where the building itself could no longer support the weight of the tower above the impact point, thus the buildings fell.

It's not rocket science, there's no conspiracy on that, it's just physics.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

ahahahhaahhahahahahhahaahhaha.

Pics of the terrorist have been leaked.

[SoSideways]

Where's his turban?

[ChiSleepyEyes]

Originally Posted by mRclARK1

...Ok, so sure, that plane may not be a plane still used in AA fleet at the time of 9/11, but they were used at one time, and you yourself said that the plane for 175 was supposedly grounded that day. Could the airline perhaps have used an older AA plane still in the fleet to take its place? Happens quite often. Most airlines keep a certain amount of older aircraft that they no longer routinely use for various purposes.

why would they ground a flight and then let another plane take its place. wouldnt it just make more sense to let the original plane take back off??? Replacing a new plane with an old one on the fly sounds fishy to me...

Originally Posted by mRclARK1

Ok, well then a guy I know who works for this little government department called the FAA says that's the correct plane that it was always believed to be. How do you know I'm telling the truth or not? You don't... My point is just that so far you haven't proved anything at all.

and even if u have a friend in this "little government department" thats the problem at hand, its a government controlled department...please get your head out of your and look at the facts...

[SoSideways]

Originally Posted by ChiSleepyEyes

why would they ground a flight and then let another plane take its place. wouldnt it just make more sense to let the original plane take back off??? Replacing a new plane with an old one on the fly sounds fishy to me...

If the original plane had mechanical issues, and the "older" one didn't, which one would you have assume the flight number 175 and take passengers around instead?

and even if u have a friend in this "little government department" thats the problem at hand, its a government controlled department...please get your head out of your and look at the facts...

Honestly, if you don't trust your government THAT MUCH, nobody's keeping you here.

You can always GTFO and nobody will cry over you leaving.

[ChiSleepyEyes]

Originally Posted by SoSideways

The evidence is there to support the fact that the jet fuel weakened the structure enough to where the building itself could no longer support the weight of the tower above the impact point, thus the buildings fell.

It's not rocket science, there's no conspiracy on that, it's just physics.

physics my a$$ after that long re-routed flight back to NY there wouldnt be enough fuel to heat metal till it was molten...look at the numerous instances where buildings..high rise buildings... have been struck my planes and burned completely from top to bottom and are still standing today... so your telling me the little remnants of jet fuel that were left took down that building. and the explosions that were heard from inside the building were not echo...they were spaced explosions, planted within the towers. they did not happen all at once, they were planned and spaced throughout the burning of the building to create the illusion that shit was going wrong...you people honestly have no idea

[ChiSleepyEyes]

Originally Posted by SoSideways

Honestly, if you don't trust your government THAT MUCH, nobody's keeping you here.

You can always GTFO and nobody will cry over you leaving.

bush was slumping and needed something to turn heads and make him the hero...he brought pain and suffering on thousands of unexpected people. not including those he sent to take over and remove middle eastern rule... are u kidding me..

[ChiSleepyEyes]

your fighting a losing battle

[SoSideways]

Originally Posted by ChiSleepyEyes

physics my a$$ after that long re-routed flight back to NY there wouldnt be enough fuel to heat metal till it was molten...look at the numerous instances where buildings..high rise buildings... have been struck my planes and burned completely from top to bottom and are still standing today... so your telling me the little remnants of jet fuel that were left took down that building. and the explosions that were heard from inside the building were not echo...they were spaced explosions, planted within the towers. they did not happen all at once, they were planned and spaced throughout the burning of the building to create the illusion that shit was going wrong...you people honestly have no idea

The WTCs were built with an exoskeleton design, meaning the main support structure was from the OUTSIDE of the building.

The interior shafts were not meant to support the brunt of the weight of the building, although it helps.

When the exterior of the building was compromised, the SKELETON of the structure, were weakened in like, 3 out of 4 sides of the building, the center part of the building was now burdened with bearing the weight of the entire structure above it.

Also, when the plane struck the building, the fire proof material wore off on numerous parts of the remaining structural part of the center shaft, causing them to catch fire and heat up.


Here's a good example for you.

Ever watch that episode of House when Wilson filed House's cane down the middle, and when House put his weight on it, the cane snapped in half and he fell on his ass?

No?

Well, same principle.

You have a cane, for a person, whom uses it to brunt his weight when he walks because of a leg problem.

The cane has been filed down the middle, so that most of the material that helps distribute the entire weight of the person goes up and down the entire circumference and center of the cane has been compromised, concentrating on a point only a few millimeters wide in diameter.

When the same weight pushes on it, that point can no longer bear that weight, and snaps.

Apply that same concept to a building.

How is that not physics?


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Fighting a losing battle?

I am not fighting any battle?

I'm just saying, if you hate your government or the country you live in so much, then why not simply GTFO?

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All of you conspiracy theoriests should become lawyers, if you guys aren't lawyers already.

You can turn any case into a conspiracy and thrown out of the court with the way you guys argue about anything.

[BOROSUN]

Aircraft & Aircraft Carrier Data | Airliners.net
i cant find any info on the 767-204
all these plane looks the same to me, but i probably can ID most every car on the road including some aerokits/wheels.

[Rey of Spots]

Enough with these damn conspiracy threads. 9/11 happened.
No, Bush was not behind it.

Fuck.

[ChiSleepyEyes]

on a side note..
-Planes that lose contact with control towers are usually intercepted by fighter jets inside of ten minutes, as the incident with the golfer's plane a few months earlier so clearly demonstrated. Yet on 9/11, the jetliners that struck New York were allowed to proceed unmolested for more than a half-hour, and the plane that supposedly crashed in Washington was not intercepted for more than an hour and forty minutes after it was widely known that four planes had been hijacked.

-The names of the alleged hijackers, all ostensibly Muslims, were released to the public only hours after the attacks, despite Mueller saying we had no knowledge this would happen. This is an impossible twist of logic. If he didn't know of a plan to strike buildings with planes, how would he know the names of the hijackers? Various artifacts were discovered in strategic places to try to confirm the government's story, but these have all been dismissed as suspicious planting of evidence. Since that time several names on that list have turned up alive and well, living in Arab countries. Yet no attempt has ever been made to update the list. And why were none of these names on the airlines' passenger lists?

-The hole in the Pentagon was not made by a jumbo jet. Damage to the building was simply not consistent with the size of the hole nor the absence of debris. At the supposed point of impact, a whole bank of windows remained unbroken and there were no marks on the lawn. No airplane debris (except what was planted on the lawn) nor remains of passengers were ever found.

-Radio communications from firefighters on the upper floors of the Trade Center towers clearly indicate that fires were under control and the structure was in no danger of collapsing.

and to top things off, an image released by the goverment...http://www.memlo.net/wtchoax/

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by Rey of Spots

Enough with these damn conspiracy threads. 9/11 happened.
No, Bush was not behind it.

Fuck.

OR was he...

lol.

[ESmorz]

Originally Posted by Rey of Spots

Enough with these damn conspiracy threads. 9/11 happened.
No, Bush was not behind it.

Fuck.

Thank you for your all mighty wisdom.

[SoSideways]

Conspiracy theoriests can only exist in the US of A, other wise, they'd all be arrested and prisoned in all the other countries that have remotely any world power.

Let's think about that for a second.

Yeap.

All they have in common is that they all did too much acid and are now paranoid, and have nowhere else to go but sit behind their computers all day and typing up "that knock was not a knock" on all the forums on the interweb.

[Rey of Spots]

Originally Posted by ESmorz

Thank you for your all mighty wisdom.

STFU, as if any of your retarded posts have any substance to them.
Go cut your hair, emo boy.

[ESmorz]

I have like an inch of hair...

You want substance? Try a Quiznos.

[BOROSUN]

yumm quiznos

[SexPanda]

Im sorry. But half of the posts in this thread are just fucked up. Alot of people died on that day, and alot of soldiers and other people have died because of what happened on that day. 9/11 is something I dont really joke about.

[DUFFM4N]

Originally Posted by Rey of Spots

STFU, as if any of your retarded posts have any substance to them.
Go cut your hair, emo boy.

get the fuckin sand outta your vagina

[exitspeed]

[ESmorz]

Oh man, I shot Marvin in the face...

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by ESmorz

Oh man, I shot Marvin in the face...

Or was it BUSH that shot Marvin in the face?....

[WERDdabuilder]

Originally Posted by SoSideways

Have you people not seen any of the documentaries where they interviewed all the top engineers that have built some of the world's most recognized high rise buildings, and they all provided information on why/how the towers fell?

The evidence is there to support the fact that the jet fuel weakened the structure enough to where the building itself could no longer support the weight of the tower above the impact point, thus the buildings fell.

It's not rocket science, there's no conspiracy on that, it's just physics.

we talk about this in my fire tech class. the impact of the plan hitting the building and support beams basically knocking off any fire protective coating to protect them from fire. at 1000 degrees steel starts to elongate. at about 1300 degrees steel loses 50% of its carrying load. the more you learn about building construction the more it make sense on how/why the buildings collapsed.