Obama Police State - This is what you'll get

[altalti]

Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

Hitler was voted as President because of the HEAVY HEAVY sanctions from a result of WWI. The German people were so down at that point they'd believe anything anyone would say and Hitler said all the right things.

Sound like Obama in these tough times??? We are no where near as down and out as the German people but

[SlideWell]

[SoSideways]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

What you wrote above, shows your lack of understanding of Political history is absolutely phenomenal.
Hitler strong armed his way into Political office. He was a rabble rouser who strong armed both public and political people with the Brown Shirts. Once he got himself elected by strong arming he then went and executed all his fellow brown shirts.
Then he started the Nazi party and did a wholesale power grab of the bundestag. If you think the people just voted him into office it was not that simple. Did he sway the public with Oratorical power? Yes, has Obama swayed the Public with Oratorical Power? Yes.
Fact is this if anything near what RJF pointed out above is true it shows Obama has possible Dictatorial ideas. Aka if he felt it need be he would instigate a Dictatorship.
Do I think he would? I don't know, does he kinda of scare me? Yes. Am I in favore of McCain not sure, but he does seem to be the lesser of evils in all manners.
Sorry guys but the Democrats are fucking up big time right now and I do not wish to be affiliated with the part in any way whatsoever . I am officially and Independent as of today.

I do know how he came into power.

Although that was probably back in high school, because I honestly don't remember 100% by now.

So sure, call me an idiot, whatever.

He made his way into office.

Does Obama sound like him? Sure.

What I have a problem with him is, as RJF posted, he's starting to act like the Nazis by suppressing the media and infringing on the First Amendment.

That alone, is worth my vote against him in McCain's direction, even though McCain isn't without his flaws and problems.

But I think we can both agree on that, McCain is indeed the lesser of the two evils.

[40daws]

America throughout its history has looked the other way,even when it has "laws"
on the books. This is not about the haves (wallstreet) vs the have-nots (95% of middle class americans). Its about the have-nots vs the have-nots.

[boro otaku]

Wow, if this is true then Obama voters need to be butt-raped with a knife.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by altalti

Sound like Obama in these tough times??? We are no where near as down and out as the German people but

we are certainly in an economic downtime but I don't think a character like Hitler would go unnoticed in this country. Not only that but this country was built on diversity so the SECOND one group of people start singling out another set of people there will be an outcry.
But it is a scary time in this country. I believe that there could be so much done in the background if the cover says that it will fix your lives. Scary stuff man, but I don't think Obama is a naturally corrupt person.

[boro otaku]

Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

I don't think Obama is a naturally corrupt person.

His background, pastor & racist wife would suggest otherwise...

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by mRclARK1

So if the movie is false and just a good scare tactic, doesn't that make it the exact thing that many people campaign against on the basis of change within the US? False accusations and unfair intimidation etc. If Obama is indeed doing what RJF posted, then is it not fair to draw a comparison as they're both tactics of fear based on lies?

But Zeitgeist was not created to persuade people to NOT vote for a Presidential candidate, it was a means to open up minds. Sure, some might be misleading and one sided but, unless your a moron, most people would at least google some of the stuff on the movie.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by boro otaku

His background, pastor & racist wife would suggest otherwise...

examples including link please. And no right wing websites please. A thought might not generate actual fact.
What about his background would lead you to the conclusion that he is a corrupt person?
What about a, yes, racist pastor would lead you to believe that he's corrupt?
And what about his "racist" wife leads you to believe that he's corrupt?

Racism does not equal being corrupt. Not saying that Obama IS racist, but most people who ACTUALLY believe this ACTUALLY believe that Obama hates middle class white people, while his MOTHER was a middle class white person. This is a form of racism and if you believe otherwise then it's worst because you've convinced yourself that it's acceptable to believe this.

[Matej]

Both of the articles you posted are from republican influenced sources, once again.

If you say Obama is trying to be a dictator, look into what Palin has been doing in Alaska. I'm not saying Obama is innocent because I have no idea, but to me Palin is way scarier. Yes I know she's not running for president, but in a way McCain scares me as well. Despite boasting about his years of experience, he seems to have a scary lack of knowledge on any subject other than wanting to win wars.

[40daws]

If your racist daddy,or trashy mother, told you that a black man (kind word) cannot run this country,then no one here ,on the web,or on TV is going to charge your mind.

[Pank]

So now instead of just reading "zilvias" views of obama on twitter, now i get to actually read them on the site.

[ESmorz]

Vote McCain mother fuckers!

Woooooooooooo

[raen419]

Obama is inconsistent.
McCain is inconsistent.
They're politicians. Is anyone surprised by this?

Obama is for social programs (like 'free' medical care). McCain probably is too, but isn't as vocal about it b/c he wants to look like he is different from Obama. They're both liberal, and they both need to realize that many of the ideas pushed by many 'liberals' are unConstitutional. Liberal idiocy has given us welfare, social security, income tax, and several other programs that do nothing but take money from our wallets, and give it to a majority of people who don't need it, but want it. All of these programs sounded great at first, but ignorance and laziness has corrupted them.

I'm not for more social programs. I like being able to spend my own money, and all these tax increases Obama has spoken of aren't cool. However, I'm weary of McCain as well.

Also, for anyone wanting to blame Bush and his admin. for how 'bad this country is'....take a look at your Democratically controlled Congress.... They are the problem.

[renegade_ewok]

Offer two candidates with literally the same political views and guise them under the black/white political mentality that everyone is used to from years past. Sounds like the perfect way to perpetuate a system which people think they are changing.

Nothings ever gonna change here in this country unless people wake up.

[renegade_ewok]

Originally Posted by SoSideways

I do know how he came into power.

Although that was probably back in high school, because I honestly don't remember 100% by now.

So sure, call me an idiot, whatever.

He made his way into office.

Does Obama sound like him? Sure.

What I have a problem with him is, as RJF posted, he's starting to act like the Nazis by suppressing the media and infringing on the First Amendment.

That alone, is worth my vote against him in McCain's direction, even though McCain isn't without his flaws and problems.

But I think we can both agree on that, McCain is indeed the lesser of the two evils.

McCain is butt buddies with the chairmen of the FCC giving them mucho money in the past. He also gets funding from them. I wonder how that effects what is broadcast about him? Of course its easy to disavow this kind of stuff because there is no real source for this kind of information, but get into broadcasting and this is stuff the media knows behind the scenes.

These are the things you learn when you have a friend on the inside. I know someone in broadcasting and trust me, there is stuff that comes down the pipeline that is snuffed out before you even realize it is there. I don't know what it is either, but he assures me that there is so much censorship out there on either side which we don't realize.

[illvialuver]

Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

we are certainly in an economic downtime but I don't think a character like Hitler would go unnoticed in this country. Not only that but this country was built on diversity so the SECOND one group of people start singling out another set of people there will be an outcry.
But it is a scary time in this country. I believe that there could be so much done in the background if the cover says that it will fix your lives. Scary stuff man, but I don't think Obama is a naturally corrupt person.

this country built on diversity? it was all white Europeans.
But by diversity you mean religious diversity? than okay.
I don't like that Obama preaches to people, I don't trust him at all. I think he definitely has a hidden agenda and is using the color of his skin to sway people that he is different. so we are going to judge a man on the color of his skin? he is half white so it is not like malcom x or MARTIN lUTHER kING is running for office. it's all a facade.

and McCain? damn, he thinks woman should be payed less than men and wants to make woman enlist into the draft. but yet his dumbfounded vp canidate is a woman? wtf? this whole election has got to be the worst one ever.

it's like he you dying of thirst? wel you can choose between two things to drink, hot piss, or cold piss.
in the end, its all piss.

[Kn1ves]

If Obama becomes the next Hitler and overthrows the government for a dictatorship
(In a capitalist country, no less. )

Who has military prowess to liberate us? Seeing as we have the most powerful army in the world...

China? Russia?

Uhm... What?!

If Obama was elected, he'll get shot by some crazy white supremacist before he becomes a dictator. Guaranteed.

[illvialuver]

Originally Posted by renegade_ewok

Offer two candidates with literally the same political views and guise them under the black/white political mentality that everyone is used to from years past. Sounds like the perfect way to perpetuate a system which people think they are changing.

Nothings ever gonna change here in this country unless people wake up.

or revolt? or vote for Ron Paul, so different he would cause change for sure. so different simpleminded old Americans were too scared of real change.
I think most Americans what the same thing we have no but just a new face, that's there idea of change.

[illvialuver]

Originally Posted by Kn1ves

If Obama becomes the next Hitler and overthrows the government for a dictatorship
(In a capitalist country, no less. )

Who has military prowess to liberate us? Seeing as we have the most powerful army in the world...

China? Russia?

Uhm... What?!

If Obama was elected, he'll get shot by some crazy white supremacist before he becomes a dictator. Guaranteed.

is that your personal guarantee? i hope not you should be careful what you write.

[mRclARK1]

Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

But Zeitgeist was not created to persuade people to NOT vote for a Presidential candidate, it was a means to open up minds. Sure, some might be misleading and one sided but, unless your a moron, most people would at least google some of the stuff on the movie.

It was created to advance several ideas of conspiracies merged into one giant "super conspiracy" and then neatly packaged up with the modern label of "Right wing agenda" etc. and all the political connotations associated with those, and thrown out into the public without much backing or proof as to its sources, evidence, or frankly its research. Several aspects of the film in the first several minutes regarding religion are just blatantly wrong historically for example, showing a severe lack of reasearch. That undermines its credibility. You can believe anything you want. Truth will remain what it is, independent of your beliefs (I'm not meaning "you" personally).

If you think it would not have an effect on a political decision on someone still undecided in this election, I think that's a little naive and to generous of credit given to the intelligence of people and society as a whole.

A means to open up a mind to truth isn't going to do it effectively using lies. I don't care what hollywood might say.

Originally Posted by 40daws

If your racist daddy,or trashy mother, told you that a black man (kind word) cannot run this country,then no one here ,on the web,or on TV is going to charge your mind.

"If your racist daddy or trashy mother told you that the white man (kind word) cannot run this country, then no one here, on the web, or on TV is going to change your mind."

It goes both ways. Historically white people have been guilty of horrible acts of racism (slavery), due to the fact they have been in the position of power to do so by the events of history, but from an individual level, racism is not a mindset bound by any restrictions of color, race, ethnicity etc.

Arguing otherwise is akin to saying that all historical events etc. remaining the same, with only the color of skin changed between races, that blacks would not have imposed slavery on the, now historically, white africans, simply because they "just aren't racist by nature". Racism is propagated by nurture and prejudice of those around an individual (like you said, the parents). No one is born hating someone of a particular skin color. I'm not saying you believe that, but a surprising amount of people do, and it's ridiculous how racism is still an issue in the public realm, often rooted solely out of the fact that we try so hard to not make it one.

[ESmorz]

Originally Posted by illvialuver

is that your personal guarantee? i hope not you should be careful what you write.

Oh noes the internet police are gonna charge him with conspiracy.



That right there just proves this country is beyond saving.

[illvialuver]

NO, but people have gotten in trouble for saying less.
some people are snitches and others take things the wrong way.

[Matej]

Originally Posted by Kn1ves

If Obama becomes the next Hitler and overthrows the government for a dictatorship
(In a capitalist country, no less. )

Who has military prowess to liberate us? Seeing as we have the most powerful army in the world...

China? Russia?

Uhm... What?!

If things keep going as they are those two countries will just buy the US. They already own a large portion of US shares. While America has been on a decline for the past decade, Chinese economy has been growing at an amazing rate, it wouldn't be surprising if China becomes a major world superpower.
And Russia is just unbelievably ridiculously rich, at least in the private sector.

[JesusFreakDrifter]

if barack has this, then i wonder what destruction mccain will have waiting,,,,

[98s14inaz]

A few people mentioned Obama's character and religion. I want to share a personal story and then make a point.

Research Obama's minister and you will find that he might as well be a black panther, look up the church's mission and then read the black panther mission statement...pretty similar if you ask me. Of course that fact got swept under the rug. Obama claims he does not share the beliefs of his pastor/church, yet he continues to go there.

When I was a kid, our pastor hit on my mom knowing full well she was married. We didn't believe that it was right for a religious leader to do that and we did not agree with his stance on married women. We immediately stopped going there and went somewhere else. For the record I've had it with religion and have not stepped foot in a church unless it was a friend's wedding (story for another day).

My point is that we disagreed with our church and left. Obama claims to disagrees with his church but continues to go there. What does that tell you about the man? Even Jesse Jackson wants to "cut his balls off." If this man and his policies/beliefs don't scare the shit out of you, take your head out of your ass.

[Matej]

So I looked up "Obama's minister" as you said. From what I read, it seems that they've been friends for about 20 years, perhaps that's why Obama goes to his church?

Do you and your friends all share the exact same beliefs?
Are you unable to refrain from imposing your personal beliefs on everyone at your workplace?

[imotion s14]

I wouldn't say it's a police state.. more like neo-serfdom.

[illvialuver]

well If i have a friend and he has fucked up beliefs than he is not my friend.
maybe they have been friends for 20 years because they share the same beliefs ?

[Matej]

So I looked up the guy's "controversial" quotes.
Some of them are actually pretty interesting.
I guess some could be offensive if you're really trying hard to be offended.