KA24E Performance Build For Drift??***pic***

[ixfxi]

Originally Posted by txrxs

Cool, that was me.



I was running no fan shroud on a stock radiator. Like I said when I popped the hood it's not surprising the car was overheating as I was in stop and go traffic for about 30 minutes prior to getting to your parents house. I suppose I wouldn't have driven the car 3 hours if I was worried about it breaking down.

Like most of zilvia, it's very easy to judge people based on what you've read or what will make you a cool guy on here. You have a stock car yet you can judge other people? You and 90% of the forum with stock/non-running cars that always comment on weak fitment or other "cool guy zilvia" topics, yet don't walk the walk themselves.

Anyways, to the OP. If your motor is in good shape then you will be fine. It really boils down to budget. Don't cheap out on important stuff and the motor will last the same as any other motor.

what on earth are you talking about?

your motor setup looks like complete trash, thats why your car is overheating.. its held together with zipties.

walking the walk doesnt mean owning a slapped together car. and upgrade that damm radiator, theres absolutely NO reason to install a turbo and skimp on something as vital such as a radiator, jesus christ.. what a mess.

[Edgar]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Rebuilt SOHC's are not cheap. My argument is that SR's are cheaper.



Exactly.



Goddamn, I guess I knew what I was talking about. Did he mention all of the things I originally did, with the addition of gas mileage? I believe he did.



I guess I'm the other 10% that can safely tell you you're living on borrowed time with an old NA motor and a GT28RS? slapped on there. Oh, and taking your fan shroud out? Great idea - that's why you overheated, not because you're turbo'd.

Originality be damned, show me one person who's owned an SR and decided to SOHC-T their next car. It's just a bad plan, on any budget.

I wont lie, I was a person that told TR that was a bad idea but considering the price he got the car+kit and his urge to get on the track and drive it made it awesome in my eyes. The car did pull decently, and yes it probably was a POS but someone that has stock car and then talking shit on this site and thinking they are the fucking shit doesn't get any respect from me. Especially living at home with mommy and daddy. I'm not defending the fact that SOHC-T is a bad idea but I guess arguing about it is even fucking dumber. Now lets get on the topic of boosting any KA, I bet some other dudes will get in here and defend some shit. <3

[Edgar]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

what on earth are you talking about?

your motor setup looks like complete trash, thats why your car is overheating.. its held together with zipties.

walking the walk doesnt mean owning a slapped together car. and upgrade that damm radiator, theres absolutely NO reason to install a turbo and skimp on something as vital such as a radiator, jesus christ.. what a mess.

the car is dead

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by Edgar

... and his urge to get on the track and drive it made it awesome in my eyes...

I can totally relate to that, I know that's how monstrosities like SOHC-T's happen... but we're not talking about just running it till it blows and swapping in another block (which is what a lot of SR guys do), we're trying to have a fairly high-level discussion about what's cheaper, and what will be a better finished product. S13 SR20 > *all* when it comes to value, unless you've got a mint stock motor you want to NA-T and don't want much power.

[lflkajfj12123]

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Rebuilt SOHC's are not cheap. My argument is that SR's are cheaper.



Exactly.



Goddamn, I guess I knew what I was talking about. Did he mention all of the things I originally did, with the addition of gas mileage? I believe he did.



I guess I'm the other 10% that can safely tell you you're living on borrowed time with an old NA motor and a GT28RS? slapped on there. Oh, and taking your fan shroud out? Great idea - that's why you overheated, not because you're turbo'd.

Originality be damned, show me one person who's owned an SR and decided to SOHC-T their next car. It's just a bad plan, on any budget.

thank you

i don't have anything against the sohc

its just that you can buy a dohc for so cheap its like under 400 dollars for everything

if you're on a budget anyways why would you be turboing it

txrxs take it easy

i don't have anything against you or your car (it is nice)

if it were me i would of put in a dohc first then turbo'd thats all

yes my car is STOCK, you came two weeks after i bought that car it is my fourth 240sx

and the parts ive bought since you came are sitting in my garage right now are going to stay there until the spring time

but apparently i don't walk the walk myself

and yes i live at my parents house hahahaha i goto college 4 miles down the road

i would be retarded NOT to

[Edgar]

oh totally

that picture doesn't do his shit justice tho

[txrxs]

Hugs all around.

That photo is from when everything was getting put together. The quality parts are there. Like I said, budget was my main concern. I boosted the car for under $700 total. I'm surprised as anyone else that it held up. The motor that was in that car was sitting in the back of a box truck for like 7 years prior to putting it into my car. I ran 15psi on a FC T3 with the stock block without any issues.

I just see so much biased hate from everyone that doesn't have first hand experience and it just weighs on my nerves.

If you want to do an sr swap go nuts, I may be doing that in my new car. If you want to boost what you have, the ka is not a bad motor in that respect either.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Hmm, So im getting lots of votes for "no go SR" i get so many mixed suggestions from ppl.


the reason i wanna build the KA is cuz ill have a built engine there for the engine will be ready to take hard beating all season.



If i were to buy a stock SR for about the same prive as the motor rebuild im getting a stock motor.

Now,, i know theres probly lots of stock Sr's out there that probly run the track all say with stock internals but im not sure how long that would last.

Like i said before, all im trying to do is work with what i got and make it by. Ive found internal parts for decent prices.

[issac]

If It's drifting that your building your car for I say stick with the stock motor sohc or dohc until you have reached the point where the only thing thats holding you back is power. Invest in suspension, tires, lsd, etc......learn how to control your car well. I only say this because I have seen people (quoc ly) for one be able to hang with the big dogs with a DOHC with minor mods intake, exhaust, cams, header etc....and is now a driver for Jasper Performance. My thing is that your car should see as much track time as possible vs garage time. Drifting is pure fun and should always be that way. If you feel that you have already reached this point than ignore my post. Bottom line is that building the SOHC can be great but at the expense of downtime. I can assume that it will require lots of time, money, and energy. If you have those three things than go for it. But why have so much downtime??? I say get on the track and have FUN!!!!

[lflkajfj12123]

i didn't mean to be a dick about that txrxs lol i was just trying to express my view on the sohc-t i do like your car its pretty clean post some pics

you're right i don't have any experience with an sohc-t but ive had sr in my first car and dohc in all my others i think that its a better choice

i won't be going SR but i will be turboing my dohc for cheap too like you did on your car

hugs

[BoostSlideWayz]

Originally Posted by issac

If It's drifting that your building your car for I say stick with the stock motor sohc or dohc until you have reached the point where the only thing thats holding you back is power. Invest in suspension, tires, lsd, etc......learn how to control your car well. I only say this because I have seen people (quoc ly) for one be able to hang with the big dogs with a DOHC with minor mods intake, exhaust, cams, header etc....and is now a driver for Jasper Performance. My thing is that your car should see as much track time as possible vs garage time. Drifting is pure fun and should always be that way. If you feel that you have already reached this point than ignore my post. Bottom line is that building the SOHC can be great but at the expense of downtime. I can assume that it will require lots of time, money, and energy. If you have those three things than go for it. But why have so much downtime??? I say get on the track and have FUN!!!!

Agreed, drifting is just so fun to me and it seems to be my passion. I cant get enough of it yet im stuck home with my engine sitting in the garage.

Lately ive tried drifing my MK4 supra and it was alittle tough to do but it deffinatly was fun. for my first drift i tried doing 60 MPH ha. and i tried pulling the ebrake slightly and instantly did a 180...... ( just experimenting) but all in all i felt that this is the only time im happy. in a car, working on a car, building motors.. its basicly the only time when everythings alright.

I mean, i think the KA can only get me so far. But im willing to get that far with the KA and see how it treats me after i finish it.

On the tear down it was just two friends but on the build up im taking it to a shop so everything is put in correctly and done right.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Originally Posted by s0apgun

i didn't mean to be a dick about that txrxs lol i was just trying to express my view on the sohc-t i do like your car its pretty clean post some pics

you're right i don't have any experience with an sohc-t but ive had sr in my first car and dohc in all my others i think that its a better choice

i won't be going SR but i will be turboing my dohc for cheap too like you did on your car

hugs

are you reffering to me ? or the guy above your last post ?

[lflkajfj12123]

neither of you

i was talking to txrxs

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ohk then.....

[SleepyS-14]

SR is better than the KA stock for stock for sure. I like how the SR feels, but if you can build a good setup the SOHC can be very good.

Take for instance my setup... Running for over 3 years, Track only. Never had an engine issue. It makes 320hp and 340ft-lbs. Not bragging at all, but I just want to show that it isn't the engines fault that people have shitty setups.

[Edgar]

disk swords right now.

too much ka talk in here

[Edgar]

i meant to type the d word for penis

[ESmorz]

Originally Posted by s0apgun

thank you

i don't have anything against the sohc

its just that you can buy a dohc for so cheap its like under 400 dollars for everything

if you're on a budget anyways why would you be turboing it

txrxs take it easy

i don't have anything against you or your car (it is nice)

if it were me i would of put in a dohc first then turbo'd thats all

yes my car is STOCK, you came two weeks after i bought that car it is my fourth 240sx

and the parts ive bought since you came are sitting in my garage right now are going to stay there until the spring time

but apparently i don't walk the walk myself

and yes i live at my parents house hahahaha i goto college 4 miles down the road

i would be retarded NOT to

How come I don't get to go visit you?



One thing will always be true. KA's are some of the ugliest motors I have ever seen imo. An eye sore no matter how much you make it kick ass until it explodes.

[lflkajfj12123]

my mind has just been boggled

kae-t in a s14....

[BoostSlideWayz]

Originally Posted by SleepyS-14

SR is better than the KA stock for stock for sure. I like how the SR feels, but if you can build a good setup the SOHC can be very good.

Take for instance my setup... Running for over 3 years, Track only. Never had an engine issue. It makes 320hp and 340ft-lbs. Not bragging at all, but I just want to show that it isn't the engines fault that people have shitty setups.

That is the sickest set up ive ever seen... This deffinatly give me hope for my build. Thank you so much I really appriciate your time. and if the engine has lasted you this long this is what i need cuz i need somthing to last me while so i can worry about getting practice in and not about how much work the engine needs after a run.

THANKS

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Originally Posted by SleepyS-14

SR is better than the KA stock for stock for sure. I like how the SR feels, but if you can build a good setup the SOHC can be very good.

Take for instance my setup... Running for over 3 years, Track only. Never had an engine issue. It makes 320hp and 340ft-lbs. Not bragging at all, but I just want to show that it isn't the engines fault that people have shitty setups.

Holy shit!
Specs, if you don't mind?

The only thing that keeps me away from a KA-T build is the shitty red line... In one hand I have 6500, in the other I have an 8000+ CA. Yeah, thats right, I'm NOT putting an SR in my 240.

[GSXRJJordan]

Have fun with your CA. They're not the easiest motors to get to work well, although they do handle tons of boost.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Originally Posted by ILoveMyRHS13

Holy shit!
Specs, if you don't mind?

The only thing that keeps me away from a KA-T build is the shitty red line... In one hand I have 6500, in the other I have an 8000+ CA. Yeah, thats right, I'm NOT putting an SR in my 240.

Awesome! yeah see its too common to see SRs in 240sx... Not to talk shit to any of you guys on the forums here i have mad respect for all of you.

But almost every 240sx i see at a show/event.. i see lots of 240sx for drift with sr20 and nothing else.. In my opinion drifting with a motor that takes alittle more skill to drift with is just to add to my advantage of the sport so when later on i actually get another competing car ill be able to tool it around like ive done it my whole life.

Thanks for the info guys. Ill keep you updated on when i start the build.

So i think i had 1 wote for not buy parts one by one?? i think today i have enough money to purchase the rods..

its not a matter of affording the parts. Its a matter of affording it all at once since i dont make the big bucks every check...

[lflkajfj12123]

you should wait till you have the money all at once

in case you changed your mind down the road

[SleepyS-14]

I am not saying that everyone should use a ka or SOHC for that matter. If you want a bolt together setup, then SR hands down. If you know how to build engines(that actually run good) and fabricate exhaust, intercooler piping, manifolds and whatever else then it really doesn't matter. Don't choose an engine that you can keep up with. If you have never built an engine or can't afford a stand-alone then I would not choose the SOHC. Sr is a simple bolt-in. I love both, I just choose the SOHC and thats all im saying. I just don't want to see another SOHC live another terrible life.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Originally Posted by BoostSlideWayz

Awesome! yeah see its too common to see SRs in 240sx... Not to talk shit to any of you guys on the forums here i have mad respect for all of you.

But almost every 240sx i see at a show/event.. i see lots of 240sx for drift with sr20 and nothing else.. In my opinion drifting with a motor that takes alittle more skill to drift with is just to add to my advantage of the sport so when later on i actually get another competing car ill be able to tool it around like ive done it my whole life.

Thanks for the info guys. Ill keep you updated on when i start the build.

So i think i had 1 wote for not buy parts one by one?? i think today i have enough money to purchase the rods..

its not a matter of affording the parts. Its a matter of affording it all at once since i dont make the big bucks every check...

I understand exactly. I think the SR is a great, easy to use motor; but I want something different. An OEM rebuilt CA with upgraded pistons and rods, with a T28 BB would be a simple little setup and would be reliable.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Originally Posted by s0apgun

you should wait till you have the money all at once

in case you changed your mind down the road

Ok, yeah that makes sense. I would hate to have a whole bunch of parts for the engine and give up on it ha..

Originally Posted by SleepyS-14

I am not saying that everyone should use a ka or SOHC for that matter. If you want a bolt together setup, then SR hands down. If you know how to build engines(that actually run good) and fabricate exhaust, intercooler piping, manifolds and whatever else then it really doesn't matter. Don't choose an engine that you can keep up with. If you have never built an engine or can't afford a stand-alone then I would not choose the SOHC. Sr is a simple bolt-in. I love both, I just choose the SOHC and thats all im saying. I just don't want to see another SOHC live another terrible life.

Well, im currently taking a welding class so i can start to fabricate my own things and the shop close to me has a tubular bending machine. and I my self know how to build a motor its just im gonna have a real machanic keep an over over my shoulder just incase.

And i was thinking of getting the greddy emanage mostly to cancel the MAF but ill deffinatly be getting everything required to keep an eye on the engine and have everything runing smooth.

[undesiredshoe]

SleepyS14's sohc setup is what made me decide to boost my sohc. Ive been driving my car boosted for almost a year and its been running fine. Like what Sleepys14 said, I couldve bought an Sr and bolted stuff but I am a diy kind of guy.

Im currently boosting at 9psi with a turbonetics t3/t4 on a completely stock block. This spring, I plan on running 20psi...just for shits and giggles because i have a spare sohc and i know i can get more for cheap.

[thefro526]

I have a friend who's building a SOHC.

It's definitely going to be fun when he's done. I rode in it before and it felt great. That being said, the person he got it from kinda half assed the whole thing so he blew some stuff after driving it for about a month.

I think you'll be fine though, KA-ET's are fun because they make really good torque.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Yeah when i was driving mine around it was really fun. Except the fact the injectors were stock so it was hitting fuel cut almost soon as it boosted. But the engine was getting the oil dirty and fouling the plugs sooooo fast it was getting on my nerves. I think the valve stem seals were gone cuz there was alittle oil in the turbo manifold when i took the motor out..