so how about this election

[DOOK]

fuck this election... I can't wait for tuesday to be over

[RJF]

Originally Posted by PHLIP

More dirty little things:
GOP operatives may have broken the law in spreading 'Obama's aunt' smear | Crooks and Liars

... man, they're running an all-American campaign here.

And blatant voter fraud by Democrats is not against the law?

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by RJF

And blatant voter fraud by Democrats is not against the law?

What voter fraud do you speak of?
I seem to recall something about people putting false information on REGISTRATIONS, but considering that I had to show my ID and voter registration card TWICE to vote the other day, I do not see how that constitutes a fraudulent vote.
Shady individuals beefing their registration numbers does not make for fradulent voters.

[RJF]

AD: Ohio Voter Fraud almost Complete - Sher Zieve - Oct 30, 08

[Phlip]

I see your favorite words in that article.

Liberal
Communist
Socialist
Clinton
Barack Hussein Obama

You've swayed me, I need to run to Ohio and register to vote, then vote again, for McCain this time.

... oh, wait.

[RJF]

There's more.....New Mexico

Palestra.net ~ The College Network


Edit:

More?

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/15...entee-ballots/

[40daws]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah hate to break this to you. The whole economic situation that has come about due to sub prime and cheap and easy credit has nothing to do with Bush. The Bailout was for financial institutions and again had nothing to do with Bush. It was something that was set in motion back in the late 90's under the Clinton Adminstration and Orchestrated and pushed for by none other than Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman. Clinton approved the relaxation of the regulations that led to this.
Oh and its not a trillion dollars its 700 billion and it averted us going into a depression. If you don't know your economic facts don't even start going there.

Bush is fucked up and he may have spent quite a bit of money but it was not what lead us to the current economic situation.

Wrong.

800 billion to Wallstreet
79 billion to AIG
25 billion to the automakers.
7 billion to California (may not be approved yet)

Ask any economist and they are all saying this will end up at about 2-2.5 Trillion.

[RJF]

Originally Posted by 40daws

Wrong.

800 billion to Wallstreet
79 billion to AIG
25 billion to the automakers.
7 billion to California (may not be approved yet)

Ask any economist and they are all saying this will end up at about 2-2.5 Trillion.

And what do you think would have happened if the Government didn't bailout those entities?

And $800B didn't goto to Wall Street....it went into the financial markets to make sure banks all over the country don't fail.

[sillyvia13]

Originally Posted by RJF

And what do you think would have happened if the Government didn't bailout those entities?

And $800B didn't goto to Wall Street....it went into the financial markets to make sure banks all over the country don't fail.

1 billion went to bush!
read the bill..

[mRclARK1]

Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

ok lemme save everyone the trouble of posting and sum this up.

We
Are
FUCKED.

You're only fucked if you think you are. That's one of the problems today... people are convinced they're defeated so easily, and then they are.

I don't see Obama as a hard socialist, but he has leanings in that direction and that scares me.

[40daws]

Originally Posted by RJF

And what do you think would have happened if the Government didn't bailout those entities?

And $800B didn't goto to Wall Street....it went into the financial markets to make sure banks all over the country don't fail.

What happens anyway. They close or get bought out and become a stronger company with better financial future. Read Ron Pauls latest book The Revolution. Mr.Paul sums all this up.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by sillyvia13

1 billion went to bush!
read the bill..

Of course a billion went to Bush, it was his payment for being the best president in the history of the office, without him the US would be overrun with terrorists and a million times LESS safe.
I say the taxpayers should pay him ANOTHER billion too.

[mRclARK1]

^^^I'm not going to say that Bush has been a great, or even really good, President by any means. However, I don't think he's as evil as he was made out to be... Something I think most people fail to think about or realize is what HAS NOT happened while Bush has been president after 9/11. There has not been a single person killed in the United States by a definite act of foreign terrorism for example, or at least not that I am aware of. Events abroad and military casualties (which are entirely different contrary to what people seem to think today) are largely outside his control from the persepctive of a single act or event.

I tend to keep my opinions on events such as the sandbox (was it justified or not blah blah) and the war on terror etc. to myself... They won't make one damn fucking bit of difference. Especially if you find yourself in the middle of it.

[DOOK]

I just wanna know what the canidates stance on gay marriage and abortion are cause that is what is important....

fucking stupid

[RJF]

And this is from a Democrat.

Political Punch



“Says Nadler: “I have no personal knowledge of what I’m about to say. What I’m about to say is my guess…”

“My guess,” Nadler said, “knowing how politics works, what I’m about to say is not particularly…”

He searches for the word. Rejects a couple suggestions.

“…not particularly complimentary towards Sen. Obama,” he says.

“Think of the history here,” says the six-term New York congressman. “You have a guy who’s half-white, half-black. He goes to an Ivy League school, comes to Chicago … to start a political career. Doesn’t know anybody.

“Gets involved with community organizing — why? Because that’s how you form a base. OK. Joins the largest church in the neighborhood. About 8,000 members. … Why did he join the church? … Because that’s how you get to know people.

“Now maybe it takes a couple years,” Nadler says, suggesting that soon Obama starts to think of Wright, “’Jesus, the guy’s a nut, the guy’s a lunatic.’ But you don’t walk out of a church with 8,000 members in your district.”

Suggests a woman: “You don’t walk in though.”

“He didn’t know it when he walked in, presumably,” said Nadler.

And then, the line that may haunt Nadler for four years or longer: “He didn’t have the political courage to make the statement of walking out.”

“Now, what does it tell me?” Nadler asked. “It tells me that he wasn’t terribly political courageous. Does it tell me that he agreed with the reverend in any way? No. It tells me he didn’t want to walk out of a church in his district.”

What’s even funnier about this is that the previous time I can recall Nadler talking about Obama was in December 2006, when Jason Horowitz of the New York Observer chatted with him at the Israeli Policy Forum.

Nadler told the Observer that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., “had called him earlier yesterday to tell him that she was leaning towards running for president, and that he said he would support her. His choice, he explained, was a pragmatic one.

“‘I don’t see a lot of other good possibilities in our party,’ said Nadler… ‘Someone like Barack Obama, who is suddenly a real candidate, always worries me, because he is a novice candidate. He hasn’t done it before. Novice candidates, not always, but 95 percent of the time make a mistake. I made some terrible mistakes in office, when I was district leader, no one remembers what they are. I wasn’t in front of all the news cameras.’”

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

This is typical Republican fear speach! Make everyone so scared to vote for a democrat that they HAVE to vote republican. I haven't heard a single thing that you've said that would make me think differently about McCain. Instead of saying positive things about McCain and defending the bashers you try to reverse the heat and attack Obama.
Sad thing too because I'm more Republican than Democrat but I can't lower myself to vote for this abortion.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

This is typical Republican fear speach! Make everyone so scared to vote for a democrat that they HAVE to vote republican. I haven't heard a single thing that you've said that would make me think differently about McCain. Instead of saying positive things about McCain and defending the bashers you try to reverse the heat and attack Obama.
Sad thing too because I'm more Republican than Democrat but I can't lower myself to vote for this abortion.

Funny you mention that, he is doing the same thing McCain is doing.
Funnier thing is that there is still a very real chance that the good ol fashioned ingrained ideals that this country was built on the back of could STILL serve it that McShame wins, just because his skin is not brown, polls be damned.

[sillyvia13]

i like crispy french fries.
Like the small ones that get burnt, MY FAV!

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by sillyvia13

i like crispy french fries.
Like the small ones that get burnt, MY FAV!

FREEDOM FRIES!!!
You will call them freedom fries, since those socialist Frenchies support terrorists by not believing us when we say they should preemptively bombed to shit--... err, "liberated."
Jesus, what are you, some kind of liberal?

**edit**
This is funny:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27455136
Cast vote, receive dildo.

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by 40daws

Wrong.

800 billion to Wallstreet
79 billion to AIG
25 billion to the automakers.
7 billion to California (may not be approved yet)

Ask any economist and they are all saying this will end up at about 2-2.5 Trillion.

Ah.... come back when you actually have knowledge of following markets and are not just spouting numbers and rhetoric you have heard.

Oh and Auto makers are not even in this, at this point. They are asking for some, they have not received it as of yet.
Please again, study and speak with knowledge on this subject, because what you posted above is one or two peoples opinions and you have not posted facts or knowledge to back it up.

Oh and back to Topic, Obama will probably take this election. Lets only hope he moves more to center on his economic policy ideas vs the far left rhetoric he is spouting.

[kognition]

I heard NASCAR was just trying to get a bailout!

[kognition]

That's the truth, because poor uneducated people don't create jobs for the economy. Just got off the phone with a friend in the UK, the Government is offering up to 200 thousand pound loans interest free for three years to small businesses there. He owns a few clubs and is successful, he is taking them up on the offer. Would that ever happen here? Fuck to the NO!

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Oh and back to Topic, Obama will probably take this election. Lets only hope he moves more to center on his economic policy ideas vs the far left rhetoric he is spouting.

[CrimsonRockett]

[mRclARK1]

Just for all the socialist talk out there... From some people a lot smarter than any of us:

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

- Wintson Churchill

"One of the consequences of such notions as "entitlements" is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence."

- Thomas Sowell

[Phlip]

Can't get to it from work, because of their socialist anti-fun internet policies, but I will be playing this when I get home from work:
Sarah Palin: Governor Sarah Palin Is Air Milf

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah.... come back when you actually have knowledge of following markets and are not just spouting numbers and rhetoric you have heard.

Oh and Auto makers are not even in this, at this point. They are asking for some, they have not received it as of yet.
Please again, study and speak with knowledge on this subject, because what you posted above is one or two peoples opinions and you have not posted facts or knowledge to back it up.

Oh and back to Topic, Obama will probably take this election. Lets only hope he moves more to center on his economic policy ideas vs the far left rhetoric he is spouting.

Well think about this. American Airlines just received a 7 million dollar fine from the FAA because they admitted a cruise control problem, god forbit the pilots fly the plane. AA's reasoning why they couldn't correct the problem: Well........if we had better planes..... The AA fleet averaged being built in the early 80's. So basically AA sacrificed 7mil for a shot at 700mil. Truth is, they don't need new planes, there is no intention to buy new planes. It will do nothing but line pockets at the top of AA.
AND Delta just fudged their accounting numbers to show a loss for the first time in 15 years. In the meantime they're in the middle of profit city because jet fuel dropped dramatically yet ticket prices remain the same.
And this is just the airline industry. It might not be the bailout that's the problem, it's the people who take advantage of it.

[40daws]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah.... come back when you actually have knowledge of following markets and are not just spouting numbers and rhetoric you have heard.

Most of the thread is spam.

[surreybc]

Obama is a very ethnocentric candidate garnering almost every single black vote even from black republicans like powell. This is racial balkanization not seen since yugoslavia. When minorities are given power the country fragments into racial power blocks. Economically, the USA will be worse off than Cuba when this social experiment is over.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by surreybc

Obama is a very ethnocentric candidate garnering almost every single black vote even from black republicans like powell. This is racial balkanization not seen since yugoslavia. When minorities are given power the country fragments into racial power blocks. Economically, the USA will be worse off than Cuba when this social experiment is over.

The country is ALREADY segmented into racial power blocks.
Class and race lines are very closely related, anyone who tells you that they aren't is turning a blind eye to the obvious.

[RJF]

Originally Posted by surreybc

Obama is a very ethnocentric candidate garnering almost every single black vote even from black republicans like powell. This is racial balkanization not seen since yugoslavia. When minorities are given power the country fragments into racial power blocks. Economically, the USA will be worse off than Cuba when this social experiment is over.

Amen.