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Def · 04-26-2012, 08:21 AM

I'd use a 370Z wheel bearing, I believe they are strong than the 350Z bearings.

GripTerror · 04-26-2012, 08:55 AM

Something newer is good for us in the long run anyway... when shit starts dissapearing because of car age... Try finding a low mileage KA24DE lol

codyace · 04-26-2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Croustibat

ford mustang seems to use 5x114.3 spindles and are RWD. Maybe you could use that ?

The IRS Cobra rears are a press in bearing, not a bolt in.

s13 loverr · 04-27-2012, 07:29 PM

Does anyone know when the rear knuckles for PSM will be out? They said end of March.....

godrifttoday · 04-28-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by s13 loverr

Does anyone know when the rear knuckles for PSM will be out? They said end of March.....

They probably did not order enough in the production run, that u would need to wait 3 additional months to get a set, that's if they have in stock ... Lol

PoorMans180SX · 04-28-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan at MAX USA

may 2nd arrival is my latest info. preordering is OK.

Forums /

There you go.

GripTerror · 04-28-2012, 03:49 PM

ouch:

brainfood · 04-28-2012, 07:06 PM

That seems like a terrible design to start with

C. Anderson · 04-28-2012, 09:05 PM

Why not use rear oem s14/z32 hubs up front to try a bolt on front hub design?

brainfood · 04-28-2012, 10:10 PM

Because without bolting an axle in it will be super loose/wear out

mikerbike · 04-28-2012, 10:37 PM

Or bolt a bolt through it?

lidlleecher · 04-29-2012, 12:16 AM

whats the difference between 350z 370z front and s14-z32 rear hubs, do they have difference in bolt to bolt dimension, and in the central hole? also, in hight, from the place where they meet the knuckle, to the place they meet the wheel ... the idea is, can i use the rears for bolt on design, and then buy 370z one ans swap them, or they are too different, also, if somebody have the dimensions of the 370z ones ... will be perfect, so i can start building my knuckles, because this is the only thing i need to start.

PoorMans180SX · 04-29-2012, 04:15 PM

New LCA design from TDP.

C. Anderson · 04-29-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainfood

Because without bolting an axle in it will be super loose/wear out

New Camaros use the same hub front and rear that are splined.

az_240 · 04-30-2012, 12:45 AM

Hopefully they make a spot for the sway bar on that LCA... wonder what it'll weigh/cost

JFoxx · 04-30-2012, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

Hopefully they make a spot for the sway bar on that LCA... wonder what it'll weigh/cost

+1 any idea on a release date?

Chris28 · 04-30-2012, 06:59 AM

Anyone try installing the PBM offset rack bushings yet? I put mine in on Friday, driver's side went on fine but it seems like there is too much material in the bushing for the passenger side bracket to completely bolt down, I ended up using longer bolts to reach through the subframe to the bracket. Also if the halves are moved so the flat sides touch, they don't sit flush with each other. In order to get the flat sides on parallel planes, so to speak, there has to be about a 1/2" gap between the two. I'll try to snap a picture today after work, but here's the stock picture for reference.

Black R · 04-30-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by motoxris

This isn't a stupid question. I know as of now there bar is closer to stock fitment. It is made to be a little more forward than stock tho. It should clear 1 jz's but haven't installed one on a 1jz car.
LS1 as of now will need an oil pan but that should be done anyways.
Rb26 oil pan sticks out pretty far so probably will need to mod it as usual.

I have a vested interest in this also...

I was about to buy a sikky bar otherwise...

[email protected] · 04-30-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

New LCA design from TDP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

Hopefully they make a spot for the sway bar on that LCA... wonder what it'll weigh/cost

We can add a pick up point for the sway bar at time of order as all parts are made to order. The complete weight of each LCA and hardware is 2.78 Kgs.
The cost of the LCA's is something we are working on at the moment they are part of our full Kit. We are working on a Roll center pin for STD Nissan knuckles to see if we can get enough angle in the spherical bearing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFoxx

+1 any idea on a release date?

They are available now as part of of the full S-body steering kit.

I have a quick question for you. Would you be interested in a version of our kit that is based on a grip setup for track use ? We do allot of work on circuit cars and have plans in pace for a grip setup already.

Regards

Robbie Thornton

JFoxx · 04-30-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

We can add a pick up point for the sway bar at time of order as all parts are made to order. The complete weight of each LCA and hardware is 2.78 Kgs.
The cost of the LCA's is something we are working on at the moment they are part of our full Kit. We are working on a Roll center pin for STD Nissan knuckles to see if we can get enough angle in the spherical bearing.

They are available now as part of of the full S-body steering kit.

I have a quick question for you. Would you be interested in a version of our kit that is based on a grip setup for track use ? We do allot of work on circuit cars and have plans in pace for a grip setup already.

Regards

Robbie Thornton

im definately interested...im not running all this rubber for the hell of it...

what would be the differences?

GripTerror · 04-30-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

I have a quick question for you. Would you be interested in a version of our kit that is based on a grip setup for track use ? We do allot of work on circuit cars and have plans in pace for a grip setup already.

Fuck yes and so would all of NRR if you listen to their criticisms/demands

PerilousActs · 04-30-2012, 07:22 PM

^^ I would like to 2nd that and also state that I'm interested.

SomeoneWhoIsntMe · 04-30-2012, 09:27 PM

well, ordered a pair of era1 knuckles today after my shitty cut ones snapped. so if you guys still need any info on them, I'll have a set in my hands sometime this week with any luck.

DJPimpFlex · 04-30-2012, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris28

Anyone try installing the PBM offset rack bushings yet? I put mine in on Friday, driver's side went on fine but it seems like there is too much material in the bushing for the passenger side bracket to completely bolt down, I ended up using longer bolts to reach through the subframe to the bracket. Also if the halves are moved so the flat sides touch, they don't sit flush with each other. In order to get the flat sides on parallel planes, so to speak, there has to be about a 1/2" gap between the two. I'll try to snap a picture today after work, but here's the stock picture for reference.

I have the same problem. I put a few washers in there. Well see how it goes.

SomeoneWhoIsntMe · 04-30-2012, 09:48 PM

well, ordered a pair of era1 knuckles today after my shitty cut ones snapped. so if you guys still need any info on them, I'll have a set in my hands sometime this week with any luck.

tacotacotaco · 05-01-2012, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

We can add a pick up point for the sway bar at time of order as all parts are made to order. The complete weight of each LCA and hardware is 2.78 Kgs.
The cost of the LCA's is something we are working on at the moment they are part of our full Kit. We are working on a Roll center pin for STD Nissan knuckles to see if we can get enough angle in the spherical bearing.

They are available now as part of of the full S-body steering kit.

I have a quick question for you. Would you be interested in a version of our kit that is based on a grip setup for track use ? We do allot of work on circuit cars and have plans in pace for a grip setup already.

Regards

Robbie Thornton

I would def be interested in a grip setup verison.

[email protected] · 05-01-2012, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFoxx

im definately interested...im not running all this rubber for the hell of it...

what would be the differences?

HI Foxx, The main differences would be.
-The offset top mounts would be different to allow for some castor on the damper.
- The steering rack would be in the normal position no offset spaces needed. - Steering angle reduced to approx 45 degrees.
- KPI altered to give correct negative camber at up to 30 degrees lock.
- LCA have pick up points for sway bars

I am building a grip kit for my Nissan Skyline GTR Time Attack Car. This car has been converted to RWD and I want to ditch all the front suspension weight and test the grip levels of my new kit against the clock.

Other suggestions welcome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GripTerror

Fuck yes and so would all of NRR if you listen to their criticisms/demands

Who is NRR ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerilousActs

^^ I would like to 2nd that and also state that I'm interested.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tacotacotaco

I would def be interested in a grip setup verison.

Suggestion on what you need in the kit. Wider track ? Better Camber/Castor control ? More positive steering inputs.

Regards

Robbie

Om1kron · 05-01-2012, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Who is NRR ?

Track Day Performance's new "Angle kit" - Nissan Road Racing Forums

[email protected] · 05-01-2012, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

Track Day Performance's new "Angle kit" - Nissan Road Racing Forums

I will register there later tonight.

Robbie

lidlleecher · 05-01-2012, 06:39 AM

please if somebody have access to 350z and 370z front knuckles or hubs to measure the bolts size and pattern (mm from each other) and the central big hole ... i need this dimensions because i will wait 45 days till my front hubs arrive from USA(i live in Bulgaria) so i need the dimensions earlier if possible ...

04-26-2012, 08:21 AM	#3931
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04-28-2012, 07:06 PM	#3938
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04-28-2012, 10:10 PM	#3940
brainfood Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Eagle Rock, CA Age: 41 Posts: 2,957 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Because without bolting an axle in it will be super loose/wear out __________________ Bryan Rogers http://www.seriousbadass.com

04-28-2012, 10:37 PM	#3941
mikerbike Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SLC, UT Age: 41 Posts: 461 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Or bolt a bolt through it? __________________

04-29-2012, 04:15 PM	#3943
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,574 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	New LCA design from TDP. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

04-26-2012, 08:55 AM	#3932
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04-28-2012, 03:49 PM	#3937
GripTerror Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 685 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ouch:

04-28-2012, 09:05 PM	#3939
C. Anderson Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Memphis, TN Age: 40 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	Why not use rear oem s14/z32 hubs up front to try a bolt on front hub design?

04-29-2012, 12:16 AM	#3942
lidlleecher Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bulgaria Age: 40 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whats the difference between 350z 370z front and s14-z32 rear hubs, do they have difference in bolt to bolt dimension, and in the central hole? also, in hight, from the place where they meet the knuckle, to the place they meet the wheel ... the idea is, can i use the rears for bolt on design, and then buy 370z one ans swap them, or they are too different, also, if somebody have the dimensions of the 370z ones ... will be perfect, so i can start building my knuckles, because this is the only thing i need to start.

04-30-2012, 12:45 AM	#3945
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Hopefully they make a spot for the sway bar on that LCA... wonder what it'll weigh/cost

04-30-2012, 06:59 AM	#3947
Chris28 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 757/919 Age: 34 Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Anyone try installing the PBM offset rack bushings yet? I put mine in on Friday, driver's side went on fine but it seems like there is too much material in the bushing for the passenger side bracket to completely bolt down, I ended up using longer bolts to reach through the subframe to the bracket. Also if the halves are moved so the flat sides touch, they don't sit flush with each other. In order to get the flat sides on parallel planes, so to speak, there has to be about a 1/2" gap between the two. I'll try to snap a picture today after work, but here's the stock picture for reference.

04-30-2012, 07:22 PM	#3952
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04-30-2012, 09:27 PM	#3953
SomeoneWhoIsntMe Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Waterford, MI Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	well, ordered a pair of era1 knuckles today after my shitty cut ones snapped. so if you guys still need any info on them, I'll have a set in my hands sometime this week with any luck.

04-30-2012, 09:48 PM	#3955
SomeoneWhoIsntMe Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Waterford, MI Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	well, ordered a pair of era1 knuckles today after my shitty cut ones snapped. so if you guys still need any info on them, I'll have a set in my hands sometime this week with any luck.

05-01-2012, 06:39 AM	#3960
lidlleecher Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Bulgaria Age: 40 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	please if somebody have access to 350z and 370z front knuckles or hubs to measure the bolts size and pattern (mm from each other) and the central big hole ... i need this dimensions because i will wait 45 days till my front hubs arrive from USA(i live in Bulgaria) so i need the dimensions earlier if possible ...