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01-09-2012, 04:09 PM | #31 | |
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When it comes to painting, like most things, cleanliness is next to Godliness. And don't forget a drying system when painting. Moisture will kill you. |
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01-09-2012, 05:45 PM | #34 |
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Im even more impressed with the bodywork then I was the paint. haha looks good man, very helpful write up for those tryin to DIY some stuff.
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01-09-2012, 06:37 PM | #36 |
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Lol would you expect less from a bodyman with 8+ years exp and a techincal degree in collision/refinishing? Ill have some good write ups once i start back onn my s13
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01-09-2012, 11:43 PM | #37 |
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I expected less from zilvia. Lol. But seeing as you have more experience then me, glad you did it right haha. Like I said bro nice work.
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01-10-2012, 07:32 PM | #38 |
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1. Is there a specific temp/humidity you are aiming to spray base coat/clear? 2. Are you wet sanding between coats? 3. Is it best to plan on spraying base and clear in one session? 4. Can you let your base coat cure (for an extended period of time) prior to spraying clear? 5. How do you finish sand your clear coat(how long do you wait, etc..)
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01-10-2012, 08:30 PM | #39 | |
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me too! good enough for painting but for constant sanding and stuff, no! hell no! defenitly no!!! haha i like my compressor but i just wish it had a 5hp motor on it. would be sick!
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01-11-2012, 03:37 AM | #40 | |
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01-11-2012, 03:50 AM | #41 |
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It would be nice to one of the bigger compressors but my budget is tight so I make do with what I got. The craftsman barely puts out enough air to constantly run my sander for a long time. If I had the money I would love to buy a small rotary screw compressor
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01-12-2012, 09:31 PM | #47 |
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awesome thread! I am in the middle of stripping my whole car down and painting engine bay, interior, jams, and exterior been wondering what steps I need to take and materials needed. Keep up the good work! My bud has a hachi that is in need of some body work too
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01-13-2012, 03:02 AM | #49 |
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Ill go thru my project pictures and see if i have enough of the priming process to do a write up for you. Its basically the same process but its a bit more forgiving if you mess up since it has to be sanded down anyway.
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01-13-2012, 03:08 AM | #50 |
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So many things cann cause orange peel, its almost impossible to spray and not have some orange peel. Quality of your paint, distance from the surface when you spray, speed you move while spraying, viscosity of the paint( thicker paints tend to orange peel more), and air pressure. So many different issues can cause orange peel, thats why they make sandpaper and buffers
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01-13-2012, 11:38 AM | #53 |
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The cheapest price i found for online body shop supplies is stockwiseauto.com I also have a 5% off code that is savewise2012 i believe. I actually just found out they are only 10 mins from me so I can do pick ups instead of shipping.
I will still recommend a nice wet sand with 1800 to 2000 grit (correct me if im wrong) at the end with a compound/buff. Im by no means a body guy I have just been getting into learning how to do bodywork lately. Can you explain how to compund and what tools and brands you would recommend on that. I have been looking into wizards I really like some off their products or i can just get 3m. I will contribute to the thread when i fix my dash on how to fix cracks. I have done that with great results in the past. I like to use lord fuzor 152 to fix the crack then sem texture coat. Then finish it off with sem black trim paint. It comes out perfect. |
01-13-2012, 02:44 PM | #55 | |
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01-13-2012, 07:21 PM | #56 |
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For the most part I agree with your methods.
I do tinting differently. I use a base black and reduce it to desired shade spray on. Just be careful not to reduce it to much or it will react, then clear. A lot easier to do different shades.1 Because if you keep spraying it the way you said to make it darker the clear will eventually run. 2. If you do it my way you can reduce it pretty light and recoat until you get the shade you want (paint dries faster so u can recoat quicker and save clear) 3. They wont look as shiny because you have paint mixed in the clear. ( If you have foggy headlights wet sand outside good with 1000 grit then clear, they will look almost brand new) Also want to add, there are clears you reduce and clears you do not reduce. I always wet sand final coat in this order (nice cars) 1000,1500,2000,3000. Then hit it with compound and polish. In addition I use 2k primer over body work mostly (thicker) helps give it an even surface, I always wetsand 2k primer with 600 then 800. Another thing to note is they make different hardeners for clears depending on temps. Slow, Medium, Spot and Panel which is fast. I know prices vary in different areas but around my area I can get 1 gallon matrix clear with medium hardener for $100 and a 1gallon of Martin Senour Paint for $80(napa) just get a vin with the color you like call dealer get paint code. If you are on a budget that is your best bet. I work for a body shop and that is what we use on our cheaper jobs and to be honest they look amazing. I have done side jobs with that clear/paint/ and a harbor freight gun and people didnt believe me because it looked so damn good. I will post up pictures when I get a chance. For the most part its all about getting the clear down good and then a nice wetsand and buff. A few final notes. Never use enamel. When using metallic paint stir bottom of can VERY GOOD so it mixes evenly and shake, shaking the can alone will not cut it a good portion of the flakes stick to the bottom. 3M products are very good and reasonably priced. That is all for now. |
01-13-2012, 08:07 PM | #57 | |
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01-14-2012, 12:31 AM | #58 | |
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Here are some random pics from my cell: Friends SRT 8: Painted a lot of stuff black. Tinted tails, dirty in pic. Supra I helped with: Not streaks in the hood. Beams on roof. 350Z 350th Anniversary rims: Civic engine bay: My ZX10R: Jet SKI's: Before After My GSXR: Pearl really doesnt show in crappy pics. Looked super nice in person. Not my style but hey money is money: |
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01-17-2012, 09:59 PM | #60 |
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ok i have a couple questions.
1. are some colors easier to spray than others 2. is there a change in method for metallic and candy paints 3. have you ever used a prism clear 4. and finally when you use metal flake is that sprayed with the clear. thanks in advance i plan on painting my car here in the next 2-3 weeks. |
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