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Old 02-14-2011, 07:46 AM   #31
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Yeah but the ZL1 is not a new designation is what I am saying. The ZL1 was a factory option in 69 with all aluminum head etc etc and a 427 engine that was built specificaly for street/drag... Basically a NHRA dragster that had a factory street warranty:

RS: 37,773
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Z-28: 19,014

Engines:
250 I6 155bhp @ 4200rpm, 235lb-ft @ 1600rpm.
Z28: 302 V8 290bhp @ 5800rpm, 290lb-ft @ 4200rpm.
307 V8 200bhp @ 4600rpm, 300lb-ft @ 2400rpm.
327 V8 210bhp.
327 V8 275bhp.
350 LM1 V8 255bhp.
(SS350) 350 V8 300bhp @ 4800rpm, 380lb-ft @ 3200rpm.
(SS396) 396 V8 325bhp @ 4800rpm, 410lb-ft @ 3200rpm.
(SS396) 396 V8 350bhp @ 5200rpm, 415lb-ft @ 3200rpm.
(SS396) 396 V8 375bhp @ 5600rpm, 415lb-ft @ 3600rpm.
ZL1(COPO 9561) 427 V8 425bhp @ 5600rpm, 460lb-ft @ 4000rpm.
ZL1(COPO 9560) 427 V8 430bhp @ 5200rpm, 450lb-ft @ 4400rpm.

Performance:
(Z-28) 302/290bhp: 0-60 in 7.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 15.12 sec @ 94.8mph.
(SS396) 396/375bhp: 0-60 in 6.8 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.7 sec @ 98.7mph.
ZL1(COPO 9561) 427/425bhp: 0-60 in 5.4 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.5 sec @ 102mph.
ZL1(COPO 9560) 427/430bhp: 0-60 in 5.3 sec, 1/4 mile in 13.16 sec @ 110 mph.
My point was that there won't be a Z28. Everyone thought it was going to be called a Z28 but they went with the ZL1 moniker instead.
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:51 AM   #32
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:32 AM   #33
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Report: GM to launch special edition Camaro every six months — Autoblog

So GM is going to start launching special edition camaros every 6 months
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:44 AM   #34
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Report: GM to launch special edition Camaro every six months — Autoblog

So GM is going to start launching special edition camaros every 6 months
This is a bad move IMO. I mean the special edition Mustangs are anything but. There's too damn many of them.
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Are there too many Mustang trims?
Seems reasonable to me.
V6, Premium V6, GT, Premium GT, Boss, Boss Laguna Seca, & Cobra.

'The California Edition' is awfully tacky, but that's more of a package than a trim.
I also don't care for how the Premium trim is around $3k, and I need it to get a better sound system & HID's, but that's my only complaint.
I DO like how a base GT w/ Brembo pkg is around $32k, & how dealers are actually stocking it up.

Now the whole thing about Camaros having a new trim seems a bit gimmicky to me,
but maybe the public takes well to stuff like 'Transformers' ed. Camaro.
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I don't think they will all be new trim levels, just special editions. By releasing new special editions every 6 months, they get free advertising in magazine reviews and blog sites. Most likely, a special edition will be available for a while, and then quietly disappear, replaced by another special edition. The mustang has special editions coming out of it's ass, not to mention the 47 varieties of 911.
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Now the whole thing about Camaros having a new trim seems a bit gimmicky to me,
but maybe the public takes well to stuff like 'Transformers' ed. Camaro.
Gotta catch em all, man.
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