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SimpleS14 · 03-10-2009, 03:02 PM

I was looking at a thread on a UK forum where the guy removed rust from various components of his S14 using a gel like solution. I tired to search for where I can buy it and worse case I'm making a call to the UK

http://www.bilthamber.com/deoxgelbuy.php

Here are some pics of the solution he used and the end result...

I'm pretty much trying to do the same thing but I don't know what is an alternative solution here in the states.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

cc4usmc · 03-10-2009, 03:07 PM

thats bling bling right thurr

IIIXziuR · 03-10-2009, 03:23 PM

wow that's pretty neat. I could use some of that.
Isn't that similar to what Naval Jelly does?

http://www.loctiteproducts.com/produ...id=47&plid=169

......If not time to call the UK.

***enkei2k*** · 03-10-2009, 03:28 PM

shit would that work on other parts of the car? lol my rear fender is rusted to shit

awesomenick · 03-10-2009, 03:32 PM

Holy crap. I need that stuff.

redline racer510 · 03-10-2009, 03:32 PM

thats the same thing as naval jelly right?

ChiSleepyEyes · 03-10-2009, 03:34 PM

would be very helpful to us 240 owners in the midwest

zorak · 03-10-2009, 03:41 PM

i want that, my trunk is messed up. f-in SE spoilers

sileighty83 · 03-10-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorak

i want that, my trunk is messed up. f-in SE spoilers

^^
haha me too! I hate boomerang spoilers

SimpleS14 · 03-10-2009, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIIXziuR

wow that's pretty neat. I could use some of that.
Isn't that similar to what Naval Jelly does?

Loctite Consumer Retail Products | Product Detail

......If not time to call the UK.

Thank you kind sir. Now I will figure out where I can find this and give it a try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k

shit would that work on other parts of the car? lol my rear fender is rusted to shit

Yea, this guy even used a syringe to get at the body seams.

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***S14DB*** · 03-10-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

thats the same thing as naval jelly right?

looks like it to me.

karl wasabi · 03-10-2009, 04:31 PM

Wow. Someone please figure out where we can get some of this stuff. haha. I need it too.

reaxion · 03-10-2009, 04:36 PM

im buyin this stuff this summer and doin some major cleaning

cotbu · 03-10-2009, 04:39 PM

it clean the studs too!

**mrmephistopheles** · 03-10-2009, 04:43 PM

Petrol is on here as well.

Jakob · 03-10-2009, 05:23 PM

you guys should check out his build thread! that car is SOOO clean he could sell it back to nissan as a showcar....

btw in that shop it says:

"For North America and non-listed countries, we will contact you before processing payment with the cheapest available shipping price. "

so yea they ship it to america

SimpleS14 · 03-10-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_russian_one

you guys should check out his build thread! that car is SOOO clean he could sell it back to nissan as a showcar....

btw in that shop it says:

"For North America and non-listed countries, we will contact you before processing payment with the cheapest available shipping price. "

so yea they ship it to america

lol yes, it's ridiculously clean

Yes, I know they ship...but it won't be cheap considering it's hazmat material. I also I don't want to make the call to UK unless I can't find an alternative stateside.

Man...even finding that Naval Jelly is a hassle :/

MisawaJason · 03-10-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cc4usmc

thats bling bling right thurr

did someone say bling bling?

***S14DB*** · 03-10-2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Man...even finding that Naval Jelly is a hassle :/

Home Despot much?

8 Oz. Rust Remover, Naval Jelly

Model 01-80276-01

$3.99/Each

ranger240 · 03-10-2009, 06:51 PM

that guy is insane about cleaning that car...

SimpleS14 · 03-10-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Home Despot much?

8 Oz. Rust Remover, Naval Jelly

Model 01-80276-01

$3.99/Each

Thanks, I was going off the website with no luck. I will check out the stores and see if I have any luck.

lflkajfj12123 · 03-10-2009, 08:42 PM

its awesome how that thread started like 2 and 1/2 years ago and he's still not finished

100 pages of tight anal

Bigsyke · 03-10-2009, 11:04 PM

That naval jelly doesnt do shit! It etches the surface, and stains the metal.

You will then have to follow with a wirewheel to clean off the white residue.

Again, ive used 2 bottles of that naval jelly and it didnt remove jack shit, ive even set some bolts in a cup full of that for hours, and it was the same thing as putting them in a bucket full of cascade and water.

eklips3 · 03-11-2009, 03:20 AM

zilvia group buy on the stuff from UK ??

SimpleS14 · 03-11-2009, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eklips3

zilvia group buy on the stuff from UK ??

Maybe...the going currency rate is not too kind for us in the U.S. though.

I'll get a phone card and make a call to them next week.

koukimonster139 · 03-11-2009, 10:17 AM

if its that bad...

take it to your nearest restoration shop and have it sandblasted/beadblasted or acid dipped. that would save a lot of time and mess

worst case get some rust converter, automotive paint supply stores usually carry it. Its a spray on/ brush on liquid that converts rust to black oxide primer.

r6_240sx · 03-11-2009, 09:01 PM

If the UK guy posted that those last two pics back to back, than that's a little deceiving.

There's no way in hell a gel type remover will just wash off and give off that bling bling appearance right afterwords. You have some heavy scrubbin to do with a steel wool pad afterwards like Bigsyke said.

Check out this guys review:
Bilt Hamber Deox Gel (work in progress) - Detailing World

Gel-types rust removers are usually for light rust damage.

Do what all the hotrodders do, get it mediablasted.

Bigsyke · 03-11-2009, 11:14 PM

I read through most of his thread, he wirewheeled it,

Why not just wirewheel it??

fromxtor · 03-12-2009, 08:07 AM

^^ I think I got my naval jelly from walmart or autozone, i used some on my roll cage that had been sitting. It worked really well i still had to use some sand paper/ wire wheel, but thats understood.

03-10-2009, 03:02 PM	#1
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 41 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Rust removal solution (gel form) I was looking at a thread on a UK forum where the guy removed rust from various components of his S14 using a gel like solution. I tired to search for where I can buy it and worse case I'm making a call to the UK http://www.bilthamber.com/deoxgelbuy.php Here are some pics of the solution he used and the end result... I'm pretty much trying to do the same thing but I don't know what is an alternative solution here in the states. Does anyone have any suggestions? __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

03-10-2009, 03:23 PM	#3
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,655 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	wow that's pretty neat. I could use some of that. Isn't that similar to what Naval Jelly does? http://www.loctiteproducts.com/produ...id=47&plid=169 ......If not time to call the UK. __________________ ... ... ... ... .

03-10-2009, 03:28 PM	#4
*enkei2k* Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: over the river and through the woods Age: 39 Posts: 7,160 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	shit would that work on other parts of the car? lol my rear fender is rusted to shit __________________ Ask enkei2k xquizitditz

03-10-2009, 04:31 PM	#12
karl wasabi Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Walnut/SoCal Posts: 3,898 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Wow. Someone please figure out where we can get some of this stuff. haha. I need it too. __________________ Karl Wasabi Private Seller - Review Thread

03-10-2009, 04:39 PM	#14
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 49 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	it clean the studs too! __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

03-10-2009, 03:32 PM	#5
awesomenick Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: UT Age: 35 Posts: 945 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Holy crap. I need that stuff.

03-10-2009, 03:32 PM	#6
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats the same thing as naval jelly right?

03-10-2009, 03:34 PM	#7
ChiSleepyEyes Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 36 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	would be very helpful to us 240 owners in the midwest

03-10-2009, 03:41 PM	#8
zorak Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Age: 34 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: zorak Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i want that, my trunk is messed up. f-in SE spoilers

03-10-2009, 04:36 PM	#13
reaxion Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: midwest / Chi-city Age: 41 Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im buyin this stuff this summer and doin some major cleaning

03-10-2009, 05:23 PM	#16
Jakob Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: deutschland Age: 35 Posts: 483 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you guys should check out his build thread! that car is SOOO clean he could sell it back to nissan as a showcar.... btw in that shop it says: "For North America and non-listed countries, we will contact you before processing payment with the cheapest available shipping price. " so yea they ship it to america

03-10-2009, 08:42 PM	#22
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,483 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	its awesome how that thread started like 2 and 1/2 years ago and he's still not finished 100 pages of tight anal

03-10-2009, 11:04 PM	#23
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 39 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That naval jelly doesnt do shit! It etches the surface, and stains the metal. You will then have to follow with a wirewheel to clean off the white residue. Again, ive used 2 bottles of that naval jelly and it didnt remove jack shit, ive even set some bolts in a cup full of that for hours, and it was the same thing as putting them in a bucket full of cascade and water.

03-11-2009, 03:20 AM	#24
eklips3 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary Canada Age: 34 Posts: 626 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	zilvia group buy on the stuff from UK ?? __________________ 1992 240sx (RB20. 362whp@16psi)

03-11-2009, 10:17 AM	#26
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 37 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if its that bad... take it to your nearest restoration shop and have it sandblasted/beadblasted or acid dipped. that would save a lot of time and mess worst case get some rust converter, automotive paint supply stores usually carry it. Its a spray on/ brush on liquid that converts rust to black oxide primer. __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

03-11-2009, 09:01 PM	#27
r6_240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 756 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If the UK guy posted that those last two pics back to back, than that's a little deceiving. There's no way in hell a gel type remover will just wash off and give off that bling bling appearance right afterwords. You have some heavy scrubbin to do with a steel wool pad afterwards like Bigsyke said. Check out this guys review: Bilt Hamber Deox Gel (work in progress) - Detailing World Gel-types rust removers are usually for light rust damage. Do what all the hotrodders do, get it mediablasted.

03-11-2009, 11:14 PM	#28
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 39 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I read through most of his thread, he wirewheeled it, Why not just wirewheel it??

03-12-2009, 08:07 AM	#29
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 43 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	^^ I think I got my naval jelly from walmart or autozone, i used some on my roll cage that had been sitting. It worked really well i still had to use some sand paper/ wire wheel, but thats understood. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor