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aqwkmf · 01-21-2003, 08:02 PM

im looking at either a NA Z32 or RX-7 Turbo II for college....
after college im looking at a FD3 or TTZ....ill be in the USAF so money isnt a issue

96SEChick · 01-21-2003, 08:12 PM

What will your income be like when you're in college? If you won't have extra money to throw aside for "rainy day" car repairs, I would definitely go for the NA Z32. RX7 Turbo II's are great cars, but the repairs are VERY costly when they're needed. I'm not saying that NA Z repairs are cheap, but w/ it being a non-rotary motor and NA, repairs will be less-frequent and cheaper. With the NA Z32, you can also hopefully save even more money to put towards your after-college car fund and get one bad-ass TT Z32 or FD!!

Bbandit · 01-21-2003, 08:27 PM

i would have to agree with 96sechick on that one...

but you mentioned money isnt a problem huh?
go get an FC.. when you get out of college, get FD..
why? because FC and FD are my dream cars

Titan · 01-21-2003, 09:20 PM

I've posted this once, and I'll post it again.

If you are lacking money, DO NOT get the RX-7. Believe me, I wanted to buy one as well, but they are FAR more expensive to keep then the 240 or 300.

I've done alot of research on them and I decided it just isn't worth it, even if my older friend from work was selling his mint 86 FC to me for $1000 Canadian (~$600 US). It had only 139,000 km on it (~87,000 mi), but the motor already needed a rebuild.

In any case, here are the advantages and disadvantages I've found for the RX-7.

Advantages:

Fast, especially the Turbo II
Smooth power band
Great look, unique
Great community

Disadvantages:

- Unreliable (money pit) - contant repairs
- Hell ass expensive parts
- Burns fuel like a mother (the N/A gets 17 mpg tops in the city)
- A guy (Aaron Cake) from my city has a heavily modified custom turbo FC and he says he gets 4-5 mpg in the city
- The rotary motor will only take about 140,000 km with decent maintenance, and about 200,000 km with excellent maintenence.
- They are difficult to pass emissions
- There are other weakpoints on the car (the transmission is overloaded from stock, alternator is weak and brakes constantly, certain fuel rail/line problem that has caused thousands of FC's to catch on FIRE! )
- They run MUCH hotter then a piston engine, and therefore are usually damaged heavily if they overheat even once (warped rotors/housing etc.)
- The engine floods VERY easily (if you start the car, you HAVE to drive it for atleast 10 minutes)
- The engine burns atleast 1 quart of oil per 1000 miles, by nature, as it injects oil into the combustion chamber to lubricate the apex seals.
- EDIT: Oh yeah, and they also have massive electrical problems, many people refer to their dash as being "possessed"

If the FC you are looking at needs a rebuild (if it has over 80,000 mi, trust me, it WILL need one soon) then you can't just replace the APEX seals alone. Due to the fact that you teardown the block you also have to replace ALL the other seals. Don't just count on the seals needing replacement either, more often then not it is wise to replace the rotors and housing too.

Furthermore, if you plan on getting an FD, get the 1994+.. as the 93 has heavily reliability issues.

TruSlide · 01-22-2003, 07:18 AM

get the NA Z32 and save some $ for your next car

hookedup240 · 01-22-2003, 05:55 PM

My next car which I am on pace to get is a 2000-2003 BMW 325ci or 330ci, once i have about 7 g's i'm gonna use that as a downpayment sometime next year.

aqwkmf · 01-22-2003, 08:55 PM

when i go to sell my s13 ill get ~2500 for it....my AFROTC stipend will be at least $250/ month....and whatever else i make working = what i have now....that solves my money part.

thanks for the info on the rx7s but i've been a member of the rx7 forum for 4 years now....i've considered buying a 86 gxl, 87 TII, 89 GTU, 86 Sport.....and my friend had a FD before it was stolen. i've done just about all possible research on 7s i could for the FD is my dream car. im just affriad it will be phased out by the time im done college.

to be exact the pulsating damper is what causes the engine fires. i've taken apart 2 fc motors...just for a learning experience.....

thanks for yout input guys....im leaning for a NA Z32 now but its just the aspect of speed. i know the TII i was going to buy was damn quick...and i've seen some mild moded TIIs at the tracking running low - mid 14s....will the NA Z beable to pull those kind of times. i would like to stay away from n2o to keep from screwing up the motor. i'd like at least a 14 second car.....for now....

with a FD OR TTZ i would defintaly eventually mod it to run 11s and roll cage it. i dont have any desire to go that fast....yet.

01-21-2003, 08:02 PM	#1
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what should my next car be? im looking at either a NA Z32 or RX-7 Turbo II for college.... after college im looking at a FD3 or TTZ....ill be in the USAF so money isnt a issue

01-21-2003, 08:12 PM	#2
96SEChick Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Age: 47 Posts: 1,814 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What will your income be like when you're in college? If you won't have extra money to throw aside for "rainy day" car repairs, I would definitely go for the NA Z32. RX7 Turbo II's are great cars, but the repairs are VERY costly when they're needed. I'm not saying that NA Z repairs are cheap, but w/ it being a non-rotary motor and NA, repairs will be less-frequent and cheaper. With the NA Z32, you can also hopefully save even more money to put towards your after-college car fund and get one bad-ass TT Z32 or FD!! __________________ Lauren '91 300ZX TT Ultra Red 5-speed - JWT POPCharger, JUN flywheel, ACT clutch, Energy Suspension Bushings, Tokico Blues - dyno'ed 295hp/306tq '94 300ZX TT Black Emerald Pearl 5-speed - JWT POPCharger, JWT ECU w/ Stillen chip, Stillen exhaust, Tokico Blues, Eibach ProKits, 18" Enkei RP-01 wheels - dyno'ed 333hp/385tq '00 WS6 Trans Am Bright Red 6-speedFOR SALE - only 29k miles, stock, fully loaded, only $23,999 (NADA $26300) Green Country Motorsports Northeastern Oklahoma SCCA

01-21-2003, 08:27 PM	#3
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 42 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i would have to agree with 96sechick on that one... but you mentioned money isnt a problem huh? go get an FC.. when you get out of college, get FD.. why? because FC and FD are my dream cars __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

01-21-2003, 09:20 PM	#4
Titan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 421 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've posted this once, and I'll post it again. If you are lacking money, DO NOT get the RX-7. Believe me, I wanted to buy one as well, but they are FAR more expensive to keep then the 240 or 300. I've done alot of research on them and I decided it just isn't worth it, even if my older friend from work was selling his mint 86 FC to me for $1000 Canadian (~$600 US). It had only 139,000 km on it (~87,000 mi), but the motor already needed a rebuild. In any case, here are the advantages and disadvantages I've found for the RX-7. Advantages: Fast, especially the Turbo II Smooth power band Great look, unique Great community Disadvantages: - Unreliable (money pit) - contant repairs - Hell ass expensive parts - Burns fuel like a mother (the N/A gets 17 mpg tops in the city) - A guy (Aaron Cake) from my city has a heavily modified custom turbo FC and he says he gets 4-5 mpg in the city - The rotary motor will only take about 140,000 km with decent maintenance, and about 200,000 km with excellent maintenence. - They are difficult to pass emissions - There are other weakpoints on the car (the transmission is overloaded from stock, alternator is weak and brakes constantly, certain fuel rail/line problem that has caused thousands of FC's to catch on FIRE! ) - They run MUCH hotter then a piston engine, and therefore are usually damaged heavily if they overheat even once (warped rotors/housing etc.) - The engine floods VERY easily (if you start the car, you HAVE to drive it for atleast 10 minutes) - The engine burns atleast 1 quart of oil per 1000 miles, by nature, as it injects oil into the combustion chamber to lubricate the apex seals. - EDIT: Oh yeah, and they also have massive electrical problems, many people refer to their dash as being "possessed" If the FC you are looking at needs a rebuild (if it has over 80,000 mi, trust me, it WILL need one soon) then you can't just replace the APEX seals alone. Due to the fact that you teardown the block you also have to replace ALL the other seals. Don't just count on the seals needing replacement either, more often then not it is wise to replace the rotors and housing too. Furthermore, if you plan on getting an FD, get the 1994+.. as the 93 has heavily reliability issues. __________________ Sleep Doesn't Drink Beer

01-22-2003, 07:18 AM	#5
TruSlide Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. Louis Age: 40 Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	get the NA Z32 and save some $ for your next car __________________ TruSlide 1995 Nissan 240SX SE (S-14) 4 sale $4000 obo 1992 Chevy Cav Z24 Turbo 4 sale!~$1875 HOLY SLIDING SILVIAS BATMAN! THANK GOD FOR IMPORTS! ^_^

01-22-2003, 05:55 PM	#6
hookedup240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NJ Age: 40 Posts: 1,149 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My next car which I am on pace to get is a 2000-2003 BMW 325ci or 330ci, once i have about 7 g's i'm gonna use that as a downpayment sometime next year. __________________ 1991 240sx se 5spd - sold 2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege

01-22-2003, 08:55 PM	#7
aqwkmf Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: not there. Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	when i go to sell my s13 ill get ~2500 for it....my AFROTC stipend will be at least $250/ month....and whatever else i make working = what i have now....that solves my money part. thanks for the info on the rx7s but i've been a member of the rx7 forum for 4 years now....i've considered buying a 86 gxl, 87 TII, 89 GTU, 86 Sport.....and my friend had a FD before it was stolen. i've done just about all possible research on 7s i could for the FD is my dream car. im just affriad it will be phased out by the time im done college. to be exact the pulsating damper is what causes the engine fires. i've taken apart 2 fc motors...just for a learning experience..... thanks for yout input guys....im leaning for a NA Z32 now but its just the aspect of speed. i know the TII i was going to buy was damn quick...and i've seen some mild moded TIIs at the tracking running low - mid 14s....will the NA Z beable to pull those kind of times. i would like to stay away from n2o to keep from screwing up the motor. i'd like at least a 14 second car.....for now.... with a FD OR TTZ i would defintaly eventually mod it to run 11s and roll cage it. i dont have any desire to go that fast....yet.