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19-300zx-90 · 03-11-2013, 05:13 PM

Hey on a stock 350z waT are realistic power goals?? I dont own one but i really want one... Now eventually i would rebuild and supercharge er turbo charge..(which would be better) thankyou

dudermagee · 03-11-2013, 05:16 PM

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yellowxhoodie · 03-11-2013, 05:19 PM

Over 9000 bro

drscooper · 03-11-2013, 06:08 PM

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*fliprayzin240sx* · 03-11-2013, 08:29 PM

Realistic power goals based on what? Theres so many ways to answer that question, its not even funny.

Josh400 · 03-12-2013, 01:18 AM

Try My350z.com. There's a lot info on what your looking for

OrangeVirus1 · 03-12-2013, 01:25 AM

Whatever you do, make sure your Tuning is 1000000% spot on + LOW!! boost. those are pretty high compression engines and like to Throw metal everywhere with too much boost.

I know this personally, dude had a 350z, 8psi on twin setup, threw 2 rods out da block.

I would not push it past 400whp without some internals.

I would not supercharge it. at all. Hot ass air + high compression ratio + Forced induction = boom boom

driftsucky · 03-12-2013, 12:31 PM

the simpliest way to answer this is don't. HP and VQ don't mix. There's a handful of people with 900hp VQ's that never blow up and someone will use those handful of people to supersede the THOUSANDS of regular people that top out at 400hp before blowing the motor and either swapping it or doing something else. The dollars/hp ratio is very askew in the VQ. It's a great motor but it isn't a monster. It's just really freaking solid. It can take a lot of abuse in regular form. I don't know if you remember this, but when the VQ35 was first introduced, 99% of the mods people did to it actually hurt it and it was like that for about 3-4 years. It's just really well put together.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-12-2013, 12:36 PM

but just remember that boost + 10.4 :1 compression ratio dont mix well

drift freaq · 03-12-2013, 12:44 PM

If want to boost a VQ you want a VQHR engine it was pretty much designed for boost. DE's not so much. DE's respond to bolt on's pretty well though contrary to what the post above me is claiming.

The HR was the engine that was built so right that bolts were not helping it. Till people figured out how to make the right bolt ons. The HR was well engineered intake flow wise right out of the factory.

Definitely a ECU flash helps a lot for power on these engines as well.
If you really want to boost the VQ then put some lower compression piston's in.

Though I know of guys who have broke 300whp with bolts and ecu work on VQ35DE's and the HR guys have done it no problem.
You have to know what to do and that is by research research research.

SLiDe_WaYz · 03-12-2013, 01:07 PM

My Z made 317hp with full bolts ons and a ecu flash on a dyno jet. And honestly that was plenty of power for a daily toy.

I did my research. SC on stock block would yield you 350-400 and is probably the safest on a DE motor.

I would only do the GTM kit for a single turbo setup and that's if I had a forged block. Tune is everything on a VQ motor. You can do a single turbo setup and with the right tune have a reliable 400rwhp. There's a ton of guys on my350 who have 50K plus on a stock FI motor.

If you went TT. You better have a nice bank account to compensate because your stock block motor will be a ticking time bomb. TT was designed for 500+ IMO.

But ride in a stock Z, then ride in a bolt on tuned Z and it's a amazing difference.

SlideOrDie831 · 03-12-2013, 01:47 PM

thicker headgasket and good tune.

driftsucky · 03-12-2013, 03:05 PM

I disagree. I don't feel much of a difference between a stock Z and a bolt-on Z (DE). My 1st Z was a DE and it had some bolt-ons when I bought it. I took them off and it didn't seem much different. Quieter if anything. I had a performance shop in atlanta near where I was living then slap on a JWT Extreme kit and I was yielding mid 300's power (like 347 IIRC). Honestly, it was more than I ever really needed. My current G is also a DE. I love the motor but I just haven't seen much from bolt-ons out of these. It seems to make any real noticeable power, you're into quite a few grand.

Everything I've read says plenum spacer, ecu flash, header, ehxaust...I'm not an expert so I could be wrong but it doesn't SEEM like that really does much. But, it can cost a lot...well...more than what I think it should for what you get

Again, it's a great motor. I've drifted the ish outta them in stock form (cuz my current car sees sideways duty), with no issue. I just don't look to the VQ as a powerhouse.

racepar1 · 03-12-2013, 03:10 PM

The bottom ends in the VQ's (DE, rev-up, or HR) can only handle about 400hp. Anything above that and you're throwing rods through the block. Pretty much any turbo kit you put on it is going to be capable of more HP than that and you're going to blow it up. A supercharger is a much better option for a stock internal engine.

Seriously though, do some research. This thread is lame as fuck...

03-11-2013, 05:13 PM	#1
19-300zx-90 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Dakota Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	350z ?'s Hey on a stock 350z waT are realistic power goals?? I dont own one but i really want one... Now eventually i would rebuild and supercharge er turbo charge..(which would be better) thankyou

03-11-2013, 08:29 PM	#5
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Realistic power goals based on what? Theres so many ways to answer that question, its not even funny. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

03-12-2013, 12:31 PM	#8
driftsucky Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rochester NY Age: 44 Posts: 1,345 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	the simpliest way to answer this is don't. HP and VQ don't mix. There's a handful of people with 900hp VQ's that never blow up and someone will use those handful of people to supersede the THOUSANDS of regular people that top out at 400hp before blowing the motor and either swapping it or doing something else. The dollars/hp ratio is very askew in the VQ. It's a great motor but it isn't a monster. It's just really freaking solid. It can take a lot of abuse in regular form. I don't know if you remember this, but when the VQ35 was first introduced, 99% of the mods people did to it actually hurt it and it was like that for about 3-4 years. It's just really well put together. __________________ @be_henney kranstogram is full of nonsense and foolishness.

03-12-2013, 12:44 PM	#10
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,562 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	If want to boost a VQ you want a VQHR engine it was pretty much designed for boost. DE's not so much. DE's respond to bolt on's pretty well though contrary to what the post above me is claiming. The HR was the engine that was built so right that bolts were not helping it. Till people figured out how to make the right bolt ons. The HR was well engineered intake flow wise right out of the factory. Definitely a ECU flash helps a lot for power on these engines as well. If you really want to boost the VQ then put some lower compression piston's in. Though I know of guys who have broke 300whp with bolts and ecu work on VQ35DE's and the HR guys have done it no problem. You have to know what to do and that is by research research research. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

03-12-2013, 01:07 PM	#11
SLiDe_WaYz Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Texas Age: 34 Posts: 1,282 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	My Z made 317hp with full bolts ons and a ecu flash on a dyno jet. And honestly that was plenty of power for a daily toy. I did my research. SC on stock block would yield you 350-400 and is probably the safest on a DE motor. I would only do the GTM kit for a single turbo setup and that's if I had a forged block. Tune is everything on a VQ motor. You can do a single turbo setup and with the right tune have a reliable 400rwhp. There's a ton of guys on my350 who have 50K plus on a stock FI motor. If you went TT. You better have a nice bank account to compensate because your stock block motor will be a ticking time bomb. TT was designed for 500+ IMO. But ride in a stock Z, then ride in a bolt on tuned Z and it's a amazing difference. __________________

03-11-2013, 05:19 PM	#3
yellowxhoodie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,092 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Over 9000 bro

03-12-2013, 01:18 AM	#6
Josh400 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Try My350z.com. There's a lot info on what your looking for

03-12-2013, 01:25 AM	#7
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Whatever you do, make sure your Tuning is 1000000% spot on + LOW!! boost. those are pretty high compression engines and like to Throw metal everywhere with too much boost. I know this personally, dude had a 350z, 8psi on twin setup, threw 2 rods out da block. I would not push it past 400whp without some internals. I would not supercharge it. at all. Hot ass air + high compression ratio + Forced induction = boom boom

03-12-2013, 12:36 PM	#9
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	but just remember that boost + 10.4 :1 compression ratio dont mix well

03-12-2013, 01:47 PM	#12
SlideOrDie831 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: 831 Cali/Fort Bragg Age: 35 Posts: 250 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thicker headgasket and good tune.

03-12-2013, 03:05 PM	#13
driftsucky Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rochester NY Age: 44 Posts: 1,345 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I disagree. I don't feel much of a difference between a stock Z and a bolt-on Z (DE). My 1st Z was a DE and it had some bolt-ons when I bought it. I took them off and it didn't seem much different. Quieter if anything. I had a performance shop in atlanta near where I was living then slap on a JWT Extreme kit and I was yielding mid 300's power (like 347 IIRC). Honestly, it was more than I ever really needed. My current G is also a DE. I love the motor but I just haven't seen much from bolt-ons out of these. It seems to make any real noticeable power, you're into quite a few grand. Everything I've read says plenum spacer, ecu flash, header, ehxaust...I'm not an expert so I could be wrong but it doesn't SEEM like that really does much. But, it can cost a lot...well...more than what I think it should for what you get Again, it's a great motor. I've drifted the ish outta them in stock form (cuz my current car sees sideways duty), with no issue. I just don't look to the VQ as a powerhouse. __________________ @be_henney kranstogram is full of nonsense and foolishness.

03-12-2013, 03:10 PM	#14
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	The bottom ends in the VQ's (DE, rev-up, or HR) can only handle about 400hp. Anything above that and you're throwing rods through the block. Pretty much any turbo kit you put on it is going to be capable of more HP than that and you're going to blow it up. A supercharger is a much better option for a stock internal engine. Seriously though, do some research. This thread is lame as fuck...