ls1 swap

[mike6mike]

Bought my 90' 240sx in December and just took it in today to the shop to get the ls1 swap done
Original Pics.



New ls1 engine pics.




All the parts I got for it.
-totally rebuilt ls1 engine with 3 year/million mile warranty.
-Sikky ls1 swap kit
-new headers and new exhaust
-TDP stage 2 t-56 trany
-s13 clutch master cylinder conversion kit
-Mishimoto x-line radiator
-ls1 wiring harness
-Walbro 255 fuel pump
-new ecu
-sikky power steering lines
-new axles
-Godspeed adjustable lower control arms and bushings
-Texas Speed torque 2 engine cams
-steel head gasket and head bolts
-new wheels and tires 17x8 245 in the front
17x9 or 10 265 rear
-going to do some hydro dipping on some of the engine.

All I need to do is figure out what muffler to get and im set

[japslapsilvia]

cool story.....but is this suppose to be a build, or just you wanting to let Zilvia know that you have an LS?

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by japslapsilvia

cool story.....but is this suppose to be a build, or just you wanting to let Zilvia know that you have an LS?

Im going to be posting updates on progress. I know the shop owner so Im going to be going to the shop and help build it.

[japslapsilvia]

Originally Posted by mike6mike

Im going to be posting updates on progress. I know the shop owner so Im going to be going to the shop and help build it.

Thats definitely cool and all what im getting at is there is a build thread section that should be utilized for this.

[laurentj23]

So how much did you pay total?

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by japslapsilvia

Thats definitely cool and all what im getting at is there is a build thread section that should be utilized for this.

Iaght I wasn't aware of that. Can you move it to there?

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by laurentj23

So how much did you pay total?

About 15 grand right now but I just added the wheels and tires. And the hydro dipping.

[rc1honda]

I'm a little curious why you didn't try to swap it yourself. I'm no master mechanic but I've helped do a LS swap with the sikky kit and it really made it pretty straight forward.

Install the mounts to the motor and have the X member in and it litterally drops right into the stock 240 motor mount location.

It wasn't bad at all. It helps if you have the chain sling, but it really was pretty straight forward.

I only ask because 15k is a lot money and it could of been a really good experience. And saved you 10k pretty easily.

If you got money to burn and don't care, well then more power to you. I sometimes would rather pay then wrench on my car too.

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by rc1honda

I'm a little curious why you didn't try to swap it yourself. I'm no master mechanic but I've helped do a LS swap with the sikky kit and it really made it pretty straight forward.

Install the mounts to the motor and have the X member in and it litterally drops right into the stock 240 motor mount location.

It wasn't bad at all. It helps if you have the chain sling, but it really was pretty straight forward.

I only ask because 15k is a lot money and it could of been a really good experience. And saved you 10k pretty easily.

If you got money to burn and don't care, well then more power to you. I sometimes would rather pay then wrench on my car too.

I am going to be there to help swap it. and I couldnt have saved 10k cause the motor is a totally rebuilt ls1 only has 45 minutes ran on it.. so very $$ and it isnt as much for labor as you think.

[Yardjass]

Save 10k? I don't think so. That LS1 probably costs nearly 5k by itself. I'd say OP would save 5k at the most doing the work himself. Maybe not even that.

[Jeezy240]

Lol. You can't do a LS swap for less than 10 grand and it actually be worth a damn.

This is a 5.7 not a 5.3.


Anyway that was a nice SOHC. Looks like a great starting point.

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by Jeezy240

Lol. You can't do a LS swap for less than 10 grand and it actually be worth a damn.

This is a 5.7 not a 5.3.


Anyway that was a nice SOHC. Looks like a great starting point.

Yea the engine was a pretty penny. and yea it has 30,000 miles on it. Trying to sell it.

[PMG 705]

Originally Posted by mike6mike

Yea the engine was a pretty penny. and yea it has 30,000 miles on it. Trying to sell it.

You went from doing a swap to selling the engine in 2 days?

Tapa on Note III

[rc1honda]

Originally Posted by Jeezy240

Lol. You can't do a LS swap for less than 10 grand and it actually be worth a damn.

This is a 5.7 not a 5.3.


Anyway that was a nice SOHC. Looks like a great starting point.

No? How much is the siicky kit? The motor and trans outta a 99 vette is about 3k. Wiring harness and clutch kit another 1k and random parts and cleanup 1k

So I think you could do it pretty conservatively with 7k.

10k is a gross over estimation. There really no reason it should be 10k and I think if you doing a stock LS1 swap for 10k you got robbed.

So if he spent 15 for the motor and the shop to swap it he could of swapped himself for almost half the cost.

He hasn't said how much the motor set was.

Hey OP how much was your motor set with mount kit, motor, trans, and harness?

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by PMG 705

You went from doing a swap to selling the engine in 2 days?

Tapa on Note III

Lol selling the old engine...

[Frank_Jaeger]

What kind of axles did you go with?

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by Frank_Jaeger

What kind of axles did you go with?

Haven't decided yet.. any recommendations?

[Frank_Jaeger]

Originally Posted by mike6mike

Haven't decided yet.. any recommendations?

I'm getting these when mine break:
http://www.enjukuracing.com/products...89%252d98.html

[niscur29]

Originally Posted by rc1honda

No? How much is the siicky kit? The motor and trans outta a 99 vette is about 3k. Wiring harness and clutch kit another 1k and random parts and cleanup 1k

So I think you could do it pretty conservatively with 7k.

10k is a gross over estimation. There really no reason it should be 10k and I think if you doing a stock LS1 swap for 10k you got robbed.

So if he spent 15 for the motor and the shop to swap it he could of swapped himself for almost half the cost.

He hasn't said how much the motor set was.

Hey OP how much was your motor set with mount kit, motor, trans, and harness?

Please stop talking as you have no clue what you are talking about. First and foremost you CANNOT use a vette t56 in anything but a vette. Second no where can you find a pull out ls1 and t56 for 3k with low miles not beat to shit. If you living in this fantasy land please buy as many as you can and resell them at 2k profit.

A working t56 is 1400-1800 pretty much anywhere in the country. 10k is pretty much the minimum to get a running complete swap that uses quality parts. Of course you can go the cxracing option or build your own mounts and headers to save a few bucks but still not thousands. Do your homework and understand what is involved in the swap and the true costs involved. Those of us who have actual running swap have easily averaged 10k to complete DIY with no paid shop labor.

And stock axles are perfectly fine on an ls swap. Jesus people.

[rc1honda]

Originally Posted by niscur29

Please stop talking as you have no clue what you are talking about. First and foremost you CANNOT use a vette t56 in anything but a vette. Second no where can you find a pull out ls1 and t56 for 3k with low miles not beat to shit. If you living in this fantasy land please buy as many as you can and resell them at 2k profit.

A working t56 is 1400-1800 pretty much anywhere in the country. 10k is pretty much the minimum to get a running complete swap that uses quality parts. Of course you can go the cxracing option or build your own mounts and headers to save a few bucks but still not thousands. Do your homework and understand what is involved in the swap and the true costs involved. Those of us who have actual running swap have easily averaged 10k to complete DIY with no paid shop labor.

And stock axles are perfectly fine on an ls swap. Jesus people.

Well, I'm speaking from experience as I have actually done the swap, albeit it is limited.

I picked up a Perfect running condition LS1 that was super clean for 1500 given it was just the engine seeing as we already had the transmission. And the swap was quality. Siiky kit mounts and X-member, WS harness. LS6 intake, quality clutch. Custom headers. So with that engine and your estimate on 1800 for the t56 were right at 3,300 sooo..... Granted we bought the motor second hand from a guy off C-list. So I'm sure a shop motor or vendor motor would cost a good deal more.

Now as I didn't pay for the shit I didn't know the exact dollar amount of everything, but it was a good deal south of 10k.

But, if you wanna measure dicks and call me stupid than by all means keep the circle jerk jerkin.

I was just curious why he wouldn't do it himself and save a chunk of change, some people have money to burn and that's cool.

[Yardjass]

$1500 for a working LS1 with no problems and without astronomical mileage is highway robbery. New, they say don't even waste your time with a crate LS1 any more because at that point you're better off spending a little more cash on the LS3. The used LS1's arent much better and regularly run at least 3k for a decent one, and usually more. If you encounter a deal like that again, please let me know sir.

[dudermagee]

Originally Posted by rc1honda

Well, I'm speaking from experience as I have actually done the swap, albeit it is limited.

I picked up a Perfect running condition LS1 that was super clean for 1500 given it was just the engine seeing as we already had the transmission. And the swap was quality. Siiky kit mounts and X-member, WS harness. LS6 intake, quality clutch. Custom headers. So with that engine and your estimate on 1800 for the t56 were right at 3,300 sooo..... Granted we bought the motor second hand from a guy off C-list. So I'm sure a shop motor or vendor motor would cost a good deal more.

Now as I didn't pay for the shit I didn't know the exact dollar amount of everything, but it was a good deal south of 10k.

But, if you wanna measure dicks and call me stupid than by all means keep the circle jerk jerkin.

I was just curious why he wouldn't do it himself and save a chunk of change, some people have money to burn and that's cool.

Ok lets say you get a swap thats in great shape from some dude for 3300.

3300 for an LS1 with transmission
500 HP tuners
100 for fuel pump
300 for fuel lines and corvette pressure regulator\filter
450 for decent radiator and fans
500 for LS6 clutch kit
250 for Sikky Master Cylinder Conversion Kit
140 for slave cylinder
2800 for sikky swap kit
650 for cheapest sikky headers
8990 total

Thats without any extra shit, assuming nothing goes wrong, all the accessories off the motor work, you don't want AC, and you wire your own harness.

You could make your own mounts, use a GTO oil pan\modify your crossmember (iirc), make your own headers, and you'll save a couple thousand.

[civicej8]

I'll agree. My ls1 swap is creeping to about 8-9000. without a clutch or it would be at least 10,000 for sure

[Frank_Jaeger]

Originally Posted by dudermagee

Ok lets say you get a swap thats in great shape from some dude for 3300.

3300 for an LS1 with transmission
500 HP tuners
100 for fuel pump
300 for fuel lines and corvette pressure regulator\filter
450 for decent radiator and fans
500 for LS6 clutch kit
250 for Sikky Master Cylinder Conversion Kit
140 for slave cylinder
2800 for sikky swap kit
650 for cheapest sikky headers
8990 total

Thats without any extra shit, assuming nothing goes wrong, all the accessories off the motor work, you don't want AC, and you wire your own harness.

You could make your own mounts, use a GTO oil pan\modify your crossmember (iirc), make your own headers, and you'll save a couple thousand.

The $2800 sikky kit comes with headers. The $2800 Fueled Racing kit does too.

It's only $125 to have your ECM sent out for tuning (although I personally went with HP Tuners).

You can cut some cost out of fuel lines and a radiator if you go with oem style components instead of bling bling because racecar components.

I spent $4500 on a 2000 M6 Z28. After I part out / sell the shell my motorset will only have cost me $2k.

It's entirely possible to swap the engine yourself for less than $10k out the door and not have it be a big piece of shit. Just don't expect to be featured in any magazines.

And to the guy above, I'm pretty sure 450rwhp + stickies = broken stock axles. I'd love to be wrong, but I have some spares ready to go just in case.

[mike6mike]

Updatee. Engine got put in finally. Should be done by the 1st.

[mike6mike]

Video of the first start up. http://instagram.com/p/vUZpSLJ0E0/

[laurentj23]

So did you actually take disassembled the block and look at the internal? Any paperwork that it is freshly build? Clean Pistons and valves?

My swap is going to be close to 10k doing it myself and some help. The thing that cost the most is the engine 1800 rebuilt but have stock Pistons and rods, 243 heads with dual valve springs and retainers ported. T56 which is 1500 rebuilt but has no paperwork on it. Mounts,header ect $1200 and I spent extra on fast intake and nw tb since the engine doesn't come with it. And of course harness is 799 ws plus shipping.

[mike6mike]

Originally Posted by laurentj23

So did you actually take disassembled the block and look at the internal? Any paperwork that it is freshly build? Clean Pistons and valves?

My swap is going to be close to 10k doing it myself and some help. The thing that cost the most is the engine 1800 rebuilt but have stock Pistons and rods, 243 heads with dual valve springs and retainers ported. T56 which is 1500 rebuilt but has no paperwork on it. Mounts,header ect $1200 and I spent extra on fast intake and nw tb since the engine doesn't come with it. And of course harness is 799 ws plus shipping.

Yea we disassembled and ran it to break it in before putting it in the car. We have all the paperwork for it too. Our engine came with a million mile warranty and a no fault engine warranty. The only thing we fucked up on was the trany. We got a TDP stage 2 lt1 t56 and found out when we were putting it in, so we had to get a flywheel conversion kit for it, but it works perfectly. We upgraded the cams to the Texas Speed torque 2 engine cams. and new steel head gasket and head bolts cause im planning on putting a turbo in when i can afford one But all in all, the total was a little over 15 grand.

[l adam l]

Originally Posted by mike6mike

upgraded the cams. engine cams..

...cams? ...ls1... pushrod... cam.

[laurentj23]

Originally Posted by l adam l

...cams? ...ls1... pushrod... cam.

I hope he did upgrade the pushrods and valve springs for that cam. Did he check the PTV after cam install?

Since you're local, you need to let me see that bad boy!