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Fred Allen Burge · 07-22-2012, 09:19 PM

Getting closer on my LS1 project's body work, time to address the fender wells and tranny tunnel, etc.

Is there any consensus on what is the best of the best for undercoating? I've seen the junk in the cans at the store but I hardly think it would compare to the great sticky stuff the OEM uses. I've actually read some good things about using truck bed liner but with it usually being so hard I don't think it would have any sound deadening effect at all which might suck for street car.

Anybody come across an OEM equivalent for undercoating?

Thanks,
Fred

NNOCENT · 07-22-2012, 09:41 PM

hopefully you get some decent replies, i'm also very close to this stage in my build and am looking for some advice / input for undercoating.

Arireese · 07-22-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NNOCENT

hopefully you get some decent replies, i'm also very close to this stage in my build and am looking for some advice / input for undercoating.

same..once i get my chassis back from paint this is my next thing.

xoxide · 07-22-2012, 09:44 PM

3M Rubberized undercoating is good stuff.

dawagarage · 07-23-2012, 01:57 AM

expand your search to include the rest of the internet, specifically the rat/hotrod guys. i bet the stuff gets used more in their communities as opposed to ours (since theres so many of them)

blueshark123 · 07-23-2012, 10:54 AM

Well what is your main objective. Is it to sound proof it more or rust protective or just rubberize the underbody.

I like to por 15 the entire underbody to protect from rust then i use 3m schultz/ rubberized coating for extra protection from debris.

I have heard of good things with lizard skin i believe.

ixfxi · 07-24-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxide

3M Rubberized undercoating is good stuff.

thats what i used

dries hard after X amount of days

Silentoreo34 · 07-25-2012, 02:32 AM

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3M Rubberized undercoating is good stuff.

+1

Many of myself and many others use this. Bed liner is really thick and doesn't really go on as nice as 3M.

Pinggg · 07-26-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxide

3M Rubberized undercoating is good stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

thats what i used

dries hard after X amount of days

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silentoreo34

+1

Many of myself and many others use this. Bed liner is really thick and doesn't really go on as nice as 3M.

Also use the 3m stuff.

2muchboost · 07-27-2012, 07:48 AM

How many cans of the 3m stuff would you use to cover the undercarriage and fenders on an S14? I am looking at this stuff now and from a chemical standpoint it makes sense why this stuff works. It was engineered nicely.

Tx in advance

ixfxi · 07-27-2012, 08:26 AM

2 cans should do an entire undercarriage nicely. i used 3, possibly 4

2muchboost · 07-27-2012, 08:34 AM

Thank you sir....I was guessing 3 but might just pick up the 4th for good luck.

91240syes · 07-27-2012, 09:45 AM

Use the POR15 before bedliner/3M to make sure that thing will never rust. Used on on my 240Z's.

2muchboost · 07-27-2012, 11:51 AM

Whats the best method for applying the POR15 to the bottom on the car? Just want to make sure that I apply this stuff correctly. I think my uncle has a container of that stuff sitting around.

ixfxi · 07-27-2012, 11:53 AM

there are 2 types, paintable and non paintable. i used the paintable type.

i like having extra cans at my garage in case i need to touch-up my car, or any of my cars, customers car... etc. so, you really cant go wrong by having an extra can.

91240syes · 07-27-2012, 12:02 PM

I used a paint roller lol came out nice

SnakeKack · 07-27-2012, 01:11 PM

Not trying to butt in but is there local parts stores that carry POR15? Or is the best way to get a hold of it to order it off the internet? I know i haven't seen it in Autozone, or advance or anything like that. I haven't tried napa or carquest yet. Would paint suppliers stock this maybe?

91240syes · 07-27-2012, 01:48 PM

Just get it from summit.

surge s14 · 07-27-2012, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silentoreo34

+1

Many of myself and many others use this. Bed liner is really thick and doesn't really go on as nice as 3M.

this is true I myself did the Herculiner bed liner on my s13 went on nice and thick but after a year it turned in to rubber and started pealing in chunks

will redo

blueshark123 · 07-29-2012, 07:50 AM

People who want to use por-15 please read up on it since you need to do prep work if u want it done correctly and also don't get it on you or it will last for 2 weeks atleast.

I think the cheapest place to get it from was summit

91240syes · 07-29-2012, 08:02 AM

^+1 definitely wear gloves-____-

Silentoreo34 · 07-29-2012, 07:39 PM

gloves/mask/and dirty clothes it will get on you.

xoxide · 07-29-2012, 08:06 PM

I can second using POR-15 also... We have cans of it laying in the shop my dad uses on customers cars. It is some incredibly good stuff! A little pricey, but worth it. And definetly do not get it on you... haha

focused · 07-29-2012, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeKack

Not trying to butt in but is there local parts stores that carry POR15? Or is the best way to get a hold of it to order it off the internet? I know i haven't seen it in Autozone, or advance or anything like that. I haven't tried napa or carquest yet. Would paint suppliers stock this maybe?

Your local auto body supply store should carry it or be able to get it. The sherwin williams automotive store here carries it on shelf

enohand · 07-30-2012, 07:23 AM

my whole family (alot of rat rodders) use a product called

RusFree

I just did my G with it & love it..

it will stay tacky for about a week as it creeps into all the little nooks.

it also have a fibers & rust inhibitors in it.

my uncle has a old 30's roadster rat that he built like 15 years ago & was done with the Rusfree stuff & not 1 sign of rust.

also DONT use the areosol shit....use a brush on, that way you can build it up to your desired level

Promise Land · 07-31-2012, 09:15 PM

I used a brand called EFTEC. It is what Nissan is currently applying to cars. The distributor is in Michigan IIRC. I used a paint brush to apply it.

CharlesSot · 01-12-2013, 09:13 AM

which por-15 product do you guys normally buy? There website has a wide selection.

07-22-2012, 09:19 PM	#1
Fred Allen Burge Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri Age: 44 Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Best undercoating? Bed liner? Getting closer on my LS1 project's body work, time to address the fender wells and tranny tunnel, etc. Is there any consensus on what is the best of the best for undercoating? I've seen the junk in the cans at the store but I hardly think it would compare to the great sticky stuff the OEM uses. I've actually read some good things about using truck bed liner but with it usually being so hard I don't think it would have any sound deadening effect at all which might suck for street car. Anybody come across an OEM equivalent for undercoating? Thanks, Fred __________________ Silvia, built 5.3 turbo, 4l80e, 9.8@142

07-23-2012, 01:57 AM	#5
dawagarage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bremerton, WA Age: 39 Posts: 2,037 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	expand your search to include the rest of the internet, specifically the rat/hotrod guys. i bet the stuff gets used more in their communities as opposed to ours (since theres so many of them) __________________ formerly known as "hotboiblaze" ratsun: dawa (73 datsun 620) clublexus: properD (97 sc300)

07-23-2012, 10:54 AM	#6
blueshark123 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 5,481 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	Well what is your main objective. Is it to sound proof it more or rust protective or just rubberize the underbody. I like to por 15 the entire underbody to protect from rust then i use 3m schultz/ rubberized coating for extra protection from debris. I have heard of good things with lizard skin i believe. Last edited by blueshark123; 07-23-2012 at 02:01 PM..

07-31-2012, 09:15 PM	#26
Promise Land Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Age: 49 Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I used a brand called EFTEC. It is what Nissan is currently applying to cars. The distributor is in Michigan IIRC. I used a paint brush to apply it. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/canaanmanley

07-22-2012, 09:41 PM	#2
NNOCENT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 510 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	hopefully you get some decent replies, i'm also very close to this stage in my build and am looking for some advice / input for undercoating.

07-22-2012, 09:44 PM	#4
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	3M Rubberized undercoating is good stuff.

07-27-2012, 07:48 AM	#10
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	How many cans of the 3m stuff would you use to cover the undercarriage and fenders on an S14? I am looking at this stuff now and from a chemical standpoint it makes sense why this stuff works. It was engineered nicely. Tx in advance

07-27-2012, 08:26 AM	#11
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 82 Posts: 5,932 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	2 cans should do an entire undercarriage nicely. i used 3, possibly 4

07-27-2012, 08:34 AM	#12
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Thank you sir....I was guessing 3 but might just pick up the 4th for good luck.

07-27-2012, 09:45 AM	#13
91240syes Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: socal Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Use the POR15 before bedliner/3M to make sure that thing will never rust. Used on on my 240Z's.

07-27-2012, 11:51 AM	#14
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Whats the best method for applying the POR15 to the bottom on the car? Just want to make sure that I apply this stuff correctly. I think my uncle has a container of that stuff sitting around.

07-27-2012, 11:53 AM	#15
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 82 Posts: 5,932 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	there are 2 types, paintable and non paintable. i used the paintable type. i like having extra cans at my garage in case i need to touch-up my car, or any of my cars, customers car... etc. so, you really cant go wrong by having an extra can.

07-27-2012, 12:02 PM	#16
91240syes Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: socal Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I used a paint roller lol came out nice

07-27-2012, 01:11 PM	#17
SnakeKack Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Florida Age: 36 Posts: 306 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Not trying to butt in but is there local parts stores that carry POR15? Or is the best way to get a hold of it to order it off the internet? I know i haven't seen it in Autozone, or advance or anything like that. I haven't tried napa or carquest yet. Would paint suppliers stock this maybe?

07-27-2012, 01:48 PM	#18
91240syes Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: socal Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Just get it from summit.

07-29-2012, 07:50 AM	#20
blueshark123 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 5,481 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	People who want to use por-15 please read up on it since you need to do prep work if u want it done correctly and also don't get it on you or it will last for 2 weeks atleast. I think the cheapest place to get it from was summit

07-29-2012, 08:02 AM	#21
91240syes Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: socal Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^+1 definitely wear gloves-____-

07-29-2012, 07:39 PM	#22
Silentoreo34 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 33 Posts: 630 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	gloves/mask/and dirty clothes it will get on you.

07-29-2012, 08:06 PM	#23
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	I can second using POR-15 also... We have cans of it laying in the shop my dad uses on customers cars. It is some incredibly good stuff! A little pricey, but worth it. And definetly do not get it on you... haha

07-30-2012, 07:23 AM	#25
enohand Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Philly Area Age: 39 Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my whole family (alot of rat rodders) use a product called RusFree I just did my G with it & love it.. it will stay tacky for about a week as it creeps into all the little nooks. it also have a fibers & rust inhibitors in it. my uncle has a old 30's roadster rat that he built like 15 years ago & was done with the Rusfree stuff & not 1 sign of rust. also DONT use the areosol shit....use a brush on, that way you can build it up to your desired level

01-12-2013, 09:13 AM	#27
CharlesSot Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	which por-15 product do you guys normally buy? There website has a wide selection.